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Title: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: Abbyrose on Friday 16 June 06 02:36 BST (UK)
I am having difficulty determining which Thomas Tregoning is my ancestor and would like somebody to look up when any Thomas Tregoning's arrived in South Australia OR Victoria and who they travelled with.  I believe he arrived in Australia in the late 1850s.

If you have other information about where in Cornwall they came from, that would be most helpful too.

Thanks.
Abbyrose
Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: mrmagoo460 on Friday 16 June 06 03:12 BST (UK)
Hi Abby,

on the Unassisted Immigration to Victoria list there is the following:-

Thos Tregoning aged 22yrs, arrived 1857 aboard the ship 'Tiptree'

Also travelling aboard the same ship were, Wm Tregoning age 34, Rchd Tregoning age 26 and  John Tregoning age 29.

http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23

You can check the site for yourself and see what you think.

Hope this helps,

Magoo :)
Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: tropicalj on Friday 16 June 06 05:24 BST (UK)
Hello there Abbeyrose

do you have parents name for your thomas
it will help with the search in cornwall

regards jenn
Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 16 June 06 05:29 BST (UK)
We have made a start on this in Cornwall Jenn. Nothing much at this stage. Please try to keep the Cornwall part on the Cornwall Board Thanks......Kris  :D

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,163131.0.html
Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: tropicalj on Friday 16 June 06 05:32 BST (UK)
hi there Kris

sorry was unaware it was on two sites at once my apologies
regards jenn
Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: Shanko on Sunday 18 June 06 03:58 BST (UK)
Hi Jenn,
I was reading this and you shouldn't have to apologise to Kris at all. You didn't know this was on another board. I feel this type of thing where two or more branches of one persons topic should be linked up properly OR locked as none of us are mind readers and do not know if another branch has been opened up on another board

Shanko

Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: tropicalj on Sunday 18 June 06 04:13 BST (UK)
Hi there Shanko
thanks for that kind comment

i had only meant that if she had the parents names i couldve
looked up ancestory as i wasnt answering the cornwall site

ah well no harm done no offence taken just trying to help wherever possible especially as some many nice folks yourself included have helped me along the way

regards jenn
Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: Abbyrose on Sunday 18 June 06 09:07 BST (UK)
Hi Magoo  :)
Thanks for the information you provided re Thomas and siblings who arrived in Victoria on "Tiptree".  I have a recollection of my grandfather telling me his grandfather walked from Melbourne to Moonta (South Australia) to work in the mines, but I didn't really know if this was true - or possible!!  Anyway, perhaps it was true and these Tregoning's are my ancestors.  Do you have any way of checking death records in Victoria and South Australia (probably in Moonta) to see whether these Tregoning's died in Victoria or SA?  Or, do you have access to shipping records into SA to see whether there was a Thomas Tregoning who arrived into Port Adelaide?
Thanks for your help.
Regards
Abbyrose
Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: tropicalj on Sunday 18 June 06 09:45 BST (UK)
Hello

i have the marriage details for thomas and elizabeth ann isaac

do you want these or do you have this

jenn
Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: Abbyrose on Sunday 18 June 06 10:22 BST (UK)
Hi Jenn
Thanks for this offer, but I actually have a copy of this certificate.
Regards
Abbyrose
Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: mrmagoo460 on Monday 19 June 06 09:13 BST (UK)
Hi Abbeyrose,

Have you found parents names for your Tregonnings' yet? As Jenn said, that would help us alot.
Here is a link for S.A. shipping:-

http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/BoundforSouthAustralia.htm

There are plenty of Tregonings on the Vic. and S.A. Indexes but a bit more info would be great if possible.

All the best,

Magoo
Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: Abbyrose on Monday 19 June 06 11:44 BST (UK)
Hi Magoo
According to Thomas Tregoning's marriage certificate his father's name was John.  That's all I know.  Thomas was married in 1868 at the age of 28 and he died in 1891 in South Australia.  I have had a quick look on the Bound for South Australia website.  Is there a quick way to search for names, or do I need to enter each of the ships names and then look at their passenger list?
Regards
Abbyrose
Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: Abbyrose on Monday 19 June 06 12:07 BST (UK)
Hi again Magoo
I have just had a look at all of the ships arriving into SA from England in 1850 and 1851 and had no luck.  I'm pretty sure it would not have been until the late 1850s (at least) that Thomas Tregoning came to Australia, as he would have only been 11 in 1851 and this is the last year that shipping details are listed for.  Do you know if there is anywhere I can search for arrivals in the late 1850s/early 1860s?
Kind regards
Abbyrose  ???
Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 20 June 06 10:50 BST (UK)
Hello Abbeyrose

found this interesting

on the OUTTWARD PASSENGERS TO INTERSTARE, UK, NZ AND FOREIGN PORTS

from the public records office of victoria site

JAN 1861  DEPARTING MELBOURNE FOR ADELIADE

MR TREGONING  NO INITIAL AGE 29 ship balcutha

could be your bloke dont know
have to remeber age can vary by a couple of years they didnt carry around id like we have nowdays plus an awful lot could not read or write and didnt have the odd birthcertificate or such

regards jenn



Title: Re: Emmigration to South Australia
Post by: Abbyrose on Wednesday 21 June 06 11:38 BST (UK)
Hi Jenn
Thank you for this information.  I'm pretty sure this isn't my ancestor, because of the year you mentioned.  Thomas Tregoning was either 28 or 23 at the time of his marriage in 1868 - I'm pretty sure it is 28 but it is a bit hard to read on the certificate.  So, that would mean he was born in 1840 or 1845, making him only 21 or 16 in 1861.  I know you said ages can very by a couple of years, but do you think this is too much of a variation?
Regards
Abbyrose