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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: leaf on Wednesday 14 June 06 14:56 BST (UK)
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Hello everyone hunting for Devon folk.
I thought it was worth asking for help with my search.
I am looking for any further information about RICHARD BEER born about 1805 in Holbeton. He married JANE who was born around 1808 in Newton Ferrers. They had the following children born in approximate years:-
JANE 1829
ELIZA 1832
RICHARD 1834
JOHN 1837
WILLIAM G. 1840
SARAH MARY 1842 married James Smith (b. 1839, Ross, Herefordshire) in 1866, Plymouth
CATHERINE 1845 married Francis Montgomery (b. 1837, Ireland)
I have got Richard on census records from 1841 to 1861 and he was still alive in 1866 working as a labourer. In 1861 he was living in Coburg Street Plymouth.
He had died by 1871 as Jane is then a widow.
I haven't found any birth, marriage or death information for him yet. Someone looked in the Newton Ferrers records for me without luck and another person checked Revelstoke without finding him.
If I neeed to put any further information in please let me know.
Thank you in anticipation :)
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hows this??
Richard Beer aged 62 July qtr 1866
Plymouth devon
Vol 5b Page 198
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On Family search you will get the follwoing details
Richard Beer christened Holbeton Devon
parents John Beer & Ann
information is supplied there
There a marriage well
Richard Beer m Ann Deer Harvie
townstal or St.Clement dartmouth Devon
again information on site
See IGI http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
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Hello Annie CJ :)
Thank you ever so much for the information. I don't know how I missed Richard on the Death index, maybe it was a late night research session after one to many Beers :-\
I'm relatively new to this still so hadn't used the family search site. It looks as if your help has found at least 2 more family members for me. (That's after finding one for me in Herefordshire too :) )
I'm going to investigate the marriage you listed a bit further.
Once again thank you :D
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Hello all,
Thanks to the help I've recieved so far I've moved along a bit in my search.
I've got that John BEER was born about 1760 in Holbeton and married Ann REVEL (born about 1763 in Holbeton) in 1875.
Thay had the following children all apparently christened in Holbeton.
Agnes b. 1786
Elizabeth b. 1789
Lydia b.1792
William Revel b. 1794
Sarah b. 1797
John b. 1799
Dianna b. 1802
Richard b. 1805
Thomas b. 1810
I'm just wondering what would be the next best step to take after getting confirmation certificates for the above.
It would be nice to fill in some more details on the family, so I expect a trip to the Devon record office is required.
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Hello all,
I don't know if anyone can help me further I would like to order a copy of RICHARD BEER and JANE ??? marriage certificate, but I can't yet as I don't have a date or place for their marriage! I'm probably missing something obvious as I'm still fairly new to this. (Further details about Richard and Jane are in my first post) I have tried to find birth details for Richard and Jane's children, if I could get a certificate for their birth it would have Jane's maiden name on it, however again I can't seem to find anything.
Any help or ideas welcome.
Thank you,
leaf
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Hi Leaf,
I'm afraid it looks like Richard and Jane would have married before registration came in, looking at the birth dates of their children I would have thought they'd have married just before Jane was born in 1829. Registration did not come into place until 1837, so you won't be able to order a marriage certificate.
Therefore you will have to investigate the local parish records. I would begin looking in the parishes where Richard, Jane and their children were born.
I did an IGI search (as I expect you have done already) but couldn't find anything for their marriage.
It might even be worth googling for the parishes and there might be contact details for prople who know more. Also try contacting your local LDS Church, they can order films of the records you are interested in (for a small charge) and you can search them yourself.
Best of Luck
Legs
xxxx
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Hi Legs,
Thank you for that, at least I know I won't be able to order a certificate now, another lesson learned :)
Yes I did look on IGI for their marriage.
A few people have looked for me and apparently they weren't married in Newton Ferrers, or Holbeton between 1820 and 1830 or Revelstoke!
Has anyone with better local knowledge than me got any ideas where to try or which records to view through the LDS?
Thanks,
leaf
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Hi,
this may be of interest to you.
In 1802 0r 1803, George MONDAY, was transported to Australia, after being tried and convicted, in Devonshire, of having stolen liquer from a Mr BEER.
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i dont suppose my william beer b.1840 from backland brewer? devon is connected to yours.in 1871 he is a carpenter living in britain ferry
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Hi Selena,
There could be a connection as the Beers did have lots of offspring, but I am not aware of one as yet.
I'm still no further forward with the Beers than my last post on here ::)
leaf
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Hi Selena,
I have a William Beer born in 1839 in Buckland Brewer, in my family tree, his parents are William Beer born c.1812 and Hannah born about 1811.
Their children are:
Mary born 1837 (my ancestor)
William born 1839
Maria born 1840
Robert born 1844
and Charlotte born 1850
Does this sound like the same family you have?
Nathan
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Hello...this is my first post here..please excuse me if I get it wrong. I want to reply to "leaf". The Richard Beer she/he has born Holbeton 1805 is my 3x great grandfather. I have info from the censuses and certificates too for his son Richard, and I am very keen to get together with "leaf".
I am aware of Montgomery, Smith and Sutherland connections..also White and Gibb. I am inclined to think Richard senior married Jane Lethbridge but have no confirmation of that. Please get back to me via rootschat.
Suzi Wong
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Hello Suzi,
Welcome to RootsChat :)
It's good to find another person with a connection to Richard Beer. I look forward to exchanging information.
leaf
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Good afternoon,
I've been working very hard on my Beer family. Richard born 1834 married Mary Ann Piper of Wisborough Green, Sussex...I have them married in Ipswich and living at Oxford, Aldershot, Plumstead and Dartford through the censuses. Their yongest daughter Melissa Maud was deaf and dumb from age 3 and ended up in Dartord Union workhouse where my grandfather Joseph was born....he then added an E to the end of the name...which confused us for a while!!
Suzi
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Hi Suzi,
I have got information for Richard Senior's parents and Grandparents also. If you haven't already got this.
Leaf
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Hi
I'm a direct descendant of Thomas Beer born 1810 Holberton, he was the younger brother of Richard born 1805, their father was John Beer, mother was Mary Revel all born Holberton. Thomas and some of his siblings moved to Bigbury, Devon, others to Devonport/Plymouth area. My family tree is on GenesReunited site, let me know if you want a look at it, or I could copy some data for this site. Look forward to hearing from you. My email address is
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Regards, Ruth
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Hi Ruth,
That's great news to have another person with a connection. I'll be in touch.
Leaf
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i have BEERs from Devon in my tree also, athough by 1861 they were living in Cornwall.
they could possibly be related to your BEERs but BEER was a very common name in Devon.
PHILLIP BEER
1812 b. Torrington Lane? Bideford Devon
1838 marriage to Eliza Parkhouse ref Q2 Vol 10 P.99 Bideford Bachelor, Schoolmaster, Monkleigh father John Beer Master. witneses John King, William Lile
1841 Hone Stone, Bideford Publician, with wife Eliza son George son lewis and son Philip aged 7 wks. also at same address Mary Parkhouse 65 Nurse (a relation to Eliza Beer nee Parkhouse) and Mary White 20 Servant
1845 daughter Elizas birth certificate states Father Philip Vinton, occupation Clerk
Q2 1841- Q1 1851 Son George Beer died
1851 Philip Beer b.Monkleigh (Bideford) devon circa 1811 accountant living Torrington Lane Bideford
1861 moved from devon to Kenwyn Cornwall where he was a School master at Oxnams Parochiocal School
1867 daughter Eliza mariage certificate states, father Philip Vinton occupation School Master
1871 lived next door to Richards Vinton and family (Richard Vinton is Phillips Daughter Elizas brother in law) address 24 Downy lane, widower, age 52 lodging with Mary Morcamb and Husband
1873 Newquay Directory, Parish Clerk Philip Beer,
1873 Newquay Directory, Oxnam's Parochial School (for boys and birls) Philip Beer, master
1873 kellys directory BEER Phillip Parish Clerk Newlyn
BEER Phillip Master Oxnams Parochial School for boys and girls Newlyn
Probable that Philip was buried on 01.03.1889 in the parish of landewednack newlyn cornwall age 83
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:-[oops fogot to put in the births of the other BEER children of Phillip & Eliza:
1838 George b. Bideford
1839 Lewis b.do
1841 Phillip b. do (slighlty possible that Philip was buried on 6th august 1899 in the parsih of Paul Newlyn Cornwall age 53 )
1843 Mary Jane b. do (boarding at 5 Barrs Street Bristol St Paul in, Glucestershire 1881, unmarried (homeowners name Middleton))
28.05.1845 Eliza b. do. died 28.09.1891 Newlyn East Cornwall (have birth, marriage and detah certs.)
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Hi Toni,
Thanks for your post. As far as I'm aware your Beers don't connect with mine, but maybe someone else knows more.
leaf
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I moved to Canada from England via Australia and found some of my BEERS had reached here before me. ;)
I have Mary Beer b 1827 or Monkleigh who married James Parker and stayed in Sherwill.
Ellen Beer b 1839 who married John Milton
James Beer b. 1847 who married Bethia Hern who went to Canada
As far as I know they were Bible Christians and moved to Ontario where I have tracked them down.
Any connections to Beer, Wonnacott, Hartnoll, Hern out there?? thx.
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My 2nd great grand father is Samuel Vinton b.1844. I have been unsuccessful in confirming his yeat of deah. I know it was before 1891. Do you have any details.
I would also appreciate any information of Samuel's borther Richard.
Michelle
i have BEERs from Devon in my tree also, athough by 1861 they were living in Cornwall.
they could possibly be related to your BEERs but BEER was a very common name in Devon.
PHILLIP BEER
1812 b. Torrington Lane? Bideford Devon
1838 marriage to Eliza Parkhouse ref Q2 Vol 10 P.99 Bideford Bachelor, Schoolmaster, Monkleigh father John Beer Master. witneses John King, William Lile
1841 Hone Stone, Bideford Publician, with wife Eliza son George son lewis and son Philip aged 7 wks. also at same address Mary Parkhouse 65 Nurse (a relation to Eliza Beer nee Parkhouse) and Mary White 20 Servant
1845 daughter Elizas birth certificate states Father Philip Vinton, occupation Clerk
Q2 1841- Q1 1851 Son George Beer died
1851 Philip Beer b.Monkleigh (Bideford) devon circa 1811 accountant living Torrington Lane Bideford
1861 moved from devon to Kenwyn Cornwall where he was a School master at Oxnams Parochiocal School
1867 daughter Eliza mariage certificate states, father Philip Vinton occupation School Master
1871 lived next door to Richards Vinton and family (Richard Vinton is Phillips Daughter Elizas brother in law) address 24 Downy lane, widower, age 52 lodging with Mary Morcamb and Husband
1873 Newquay Directory, Parish Clerk Philip Beer,
1873 Newquay Directory, Oxnam's Parochial School (for boys and birls) Philip Beer, master
1873 kellys directory BEER Phillip Parish Clerk Newlyn
BEER Phillip Master Oxnams Parochial School for boys and girls Newlyn
Probable that Philip was buried on 01.03.1889 in the parish of landewednack newlyn cornwall age 83
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Michelle we must be related
who do you descend from ?
Samuel died on 19th August 1884 at Antofagasta Chile age 40
he was my 3 x great grandfather
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My mother is barbara vinton daugther of ronald hector vinton and doris grace mason. Sibiling is Maxwell and Alan.
Ronald's father was samuel vinton and mother catherine donaldson. My great grand parents. Sibiling Jean, Enid, William, Jack and Joyce all born in Australia.
Samuel's father is Samuel Vinton and Eliza Beer. My 2nd great grand father and mother.
Who do you descend from?
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Hi Michelle
great to find a cousin :)
my line goes from Samuel Vinton & Eliza Beer to their daughter Mary Jane Vinton known as Janie she married Edwin Holman in 1892 they had several children but their son born in 1903 George Reginald is my grandfather.
Toni
if you make 3 postings on this site and then we can PM each other swap emails and share information :)
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I actually received a photo of your grand father today as I have made contact with Harold's daugther in England.
Can you explain what Samuel was doing in Chile...I'm confused...
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mining :)
do you mean you have been in contact with Pat ?
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Wow what a great link Toni* and Michelle
I am struggling with George BEER 1827 Bideford son of James and Mary Cullis
It looks like there are a few public trees on An..ry but I can;t access them I wonder if any one knows who his wife Mary Jane was and when they married?
I have Mary Jane and the children on 1871 and 1991 and some of the children in 1891
I wonder if anyone can help
H.
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Yes Pat
I haven't spent alot of time on the Beer family if I find any info on george I will post it.
Toni it would be great to PM each other swap emails and share information. I'm not sure how it works...pls advise
Michelle
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Hi Michelle - 4th Cousin
Found you on roots chat with connection to Toni.
I have not made contact with Toni yet (will Do) thought I would say hello to Australia first.
My name is John Taylor and I live in Accrington, Lancashire, England, BB5 4BL, look me up on goggle earth and It's me and my wife Jill outside our house with a cat.
Looks like we are related through Samuel Vinton, being that my Grand Mother was Gertrude Vinton, Father Stephen Vinton 1861-1910 who Married Joseph Taylor 1911 Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire.
John Taylor