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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: maidmarian on Saturday 10 June 06 12:23 BST (UK)
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I have only just begun my research of my father's family. In 1908 William and Rose McDaid, my grandparents, lived on Creggan Road in Derry. As I believe they married in 1900, they were probably there for the 1901 Census, which would give me so much information. However, as I understand it, it is only available to view on microfilm - and is not yet online - and I can't travel to Ireland. Is it possible to purchase a CD or buy an extract of the census? I would be grateful for any advice as to how to obtain it. Also, could anybody tell me in which parish Creggan Road would have been? Thank you.
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Hi I may have already poeted this rel=ply on another posting. William and Rose Mc Daid are not listed as living at 67 Creggan Rd. There are NO Mc Daids listed as living on Creggan rd.
BF
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Thanks for your reply. I do know that Rose Kelly and William McDaid married in Derry in 1900. My father was born in 1907 and the address given on his birth certificate was 67 Creggan Road. As they're not in the 1901 Census, presumably they lived elsewhere when they were first married and moved to Creggan Road later. It would be good to see the 1911 Census. Thanks again for your information.
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More info,
Derry almanac shows Mc Daids living at 67 Creggan rd. in 1905 & still there in 1908 & 1918. Not there in 1903.
BF
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Thank you very much for that information. I'm not familiar with the Derry Almanac. Is it a directory of trades/professions? If so, is William McDaid - my grandfather - down as a shoemaker?
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1910 Ulster Directory for Londonderry is available online but don't see any boot and shoe makers named McDaid although he could be worked to someone else and then wouldn't be listed in the directory.
www.libraryireland.com/UlsterDirectory1910/Londonderry3.php
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The Derrry almanac was a directory of all houses in the city. Unfortunitly it only lists head of household. There is a trades directory portion in it. i will check for your father as a shoemaker on my next visit.
BF
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Sending a PM with some McDaid records
OTTO
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Thank you BF, that would be very kind of you.
Have responded to your PM, Otto.
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As promised here is the extract
DERRY ALMANAC 1905
TRADE DIRECTORY
BOOT AND SHOEMAKERS AND DEALERS
Mc Daid William Creggan Road
BF
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That's brilliant, BF. Thank you so much. I knew he was a shoemaker from my father's birth certificate, but it's great to see it confirmed and actually in the Derry Almanac.
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For the timescale around 1900, the Registrars office in Londonderry should be able to track down a marriage certificate for you.
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the parish would be templemore.
regards mary.
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Thank you Scotmum and Maryderry. I do actually have a copy of William McDaid and Rose Kelly's marriage certificate. They married in 1900. From this I have found out that William McDaid was from Buncrana and his father's name was Denis. I believe his mother's name may have been Biddy Doherty. However, I can't seem to get any further than this.
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do you know who rose's parents are, or do you not need any info. on them.
regards mary.
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Hi Mary,
I got some information through GenesReunited about Rose Kelly and, if this information is correct, believe her parents to have been Patrick Kelly and Peggy Duffy. Her father's name was given on her marriage certificate as 'Patrick Kelly, farmer'. I think that Owen Kelly and Annie McKinney were his parents, although I have no way of double-checking this. I think Rose Kelly was also from Buncrana. However, I know nothing more about Denis McDaid - William's father - apart from the name and that he was from Buncrana.
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Thank you Scotmum and Maryderry. I do actually have a copy of William McDaid and Rose Kelly's marriage certificate. They married in 1900. From this I have found out that William McDaid was from Buncrana and his father's name was Denis. I believe his mother's name may have been Biddy Doherty. However, I can't seem to get any further than this.
The place on the marriage certificate is the residence of the groom at the time of the marriage which may or may not be the place he was born or where his family were living. For example, if William came to Buncrana to work his residence would be listed as Buncrana.
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Thanks Aghadowey. I have been in touch with a second cousin who has also been trying to trace the family tree. He had discovered the link with Buncrana, so I do believe that William came from Buncrana to Derry and set up his business there. However, there seem to be a great number of 'McDaids' in Buncrana!
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found these may not be yours.
births.ANN 30-4-1867. MARY 30-4-1867. BIDDY 19-4-1869. ROSE 22-7-1874. ALL BORN BUNCRANA,DONEGAL.
parents.PATRICK/PADDY KELLY & PEGGY/MARGARET DUFFY.
if this is rose's birth it means she was 34 when she married.
regards mary.
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Hi Mary,
Thank you so much. That certainly looks like her, and her parents are correct with the info I got from GenesReunited. However, the info I have on her siblings are:
James, Mary, Agnes, Michael, Owen, Daniel and Henry.
No mention of Ann or Biddy.
I think Owen would have been named for his grandfather, Owen Kelly, b. about 1780.
Of course, as I said, this came from another member of GenesReunited and I have no way of checking if this is correct or not. Where did you find your information?
I really appreciate your help in this way.
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more info
Derry Almanac 1901
William Mc Daid Shoe maker
3 Waterloo St. Derry
This was a shop, he didnt live there.
BF
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Thank you very much BF. That's really interesting. It looks as though William and Rose had the shop the year after their marriage, while they were living elsewhere in Derry. It all helps to give a more complete picture. Thanks again - much appreciated.
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Hi Mary I have found your Mc Daids in the 1911 Census I have sent you a PM on this . if it dosent come out clear I will send you a copy ,if you PM me your email addy
Regards
BF
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Thank you so much, the information is quite clear. I've pm'd you.
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Hi my;late father's sister Roisin McDaid is buried in the same grave as William and Rose in Derry City Cemetery. She died at 9 months in 1942 and was the child of Charles Gerard (Gerry) McDaid, born 1912 and Hannah McDaid (nee Doherty). I am trying to work out the connection between my grandfather Gerry and William, who seems to have come from Illies outside Buncrana, and Rose (nee Kelly). I think my grandfathers parents were James McDaid and Catherine McDaid (nee Boyle) who are listed as living in Beechwood Street, Derry with their other three children Richard, John and Catherine (Molly) in 1911, the year before my grandfather was born. Have found William Kelly listed as a shoemaker here https://www.failteromhat.com/kelly1915all.php and their grave is shown here https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/205492765/william-mcdaid
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Hi my;late father's sister Roisin McDaid is buried in the same grave as William and Rose in Derry City Cemetery. She died at 9 months in 1942 and was the child of Charles Gerard (Gerry) McDaid, born 1912 and Hannah McDaid (nee Doherty). I am trying to work out the connection between my grandfather Gerry and William, who seems to have come from Illies outside Buncrana, and Rose (nee Kelly). I think my grandfathers parents were James McDaid and Catherine McDaid (nee Boyle) who are listed as living in Beechwood Street, Derry with their other three children Richard, John and Catherine (Molly) in 1911, the year before my grandfather was born. Have found William Kelly listed as a shoemaker here https://www.failteromhat.com/kelly1915all.php and their grave is shown here https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/205492765/william-mcdaid
Here's a few links for folk reading your post, it's sometimes convenient for readers to see a few contextual records up front, without them having to go looking for them. If any of the following is wrong, do say.
Based on the information you provided, this looks like the birth of Charles Gerard McDaid in 1912 to parents James McDaid and Catherine Boyle:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01502/1610084.pdf
This looks like the marriage of James McDaid and Catherine Boyle at St. Eugene's, Derry, in 1905, James was described as a butcher and his father was recorded as Richard McDaid, a carpenter:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10173/5701092.pdf
This looks like James and Catherine in the 1911 Ireland census:
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban__4_/Beechwood_Street/602779/
This may be James in the 1901 Ireland census, occupation butcher's assistant, he and a possible brother Richard are living with their cousin Richard:
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/South_Ward_No__2_Urban/Bishop_Street/1528857/
A possible fit for James' parents are Richard McDaid and Mary Kerr (a.k.a. Carr) who married at the Long Tower, Derry, in 1866, Richard was described as a carpenter and his father was recorded as Richard McDaid, a shoemaker:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11521/8237165.pdf
Falling out of that marriage were a number of children (John b. 1866, Mary b. 1868, Ann b. 1870, Hannah b.1872/3, Elizabeth b. 1875, Francis b. 1880), including a reasonable fit for the guys in that 1901 census return:
- Richard born in 1877:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03010/2103277.pdf
- James born in 1880 (twin of Francis):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02852/2045024.pdf
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Thank you so much Gaffy that is amazing. I only had the census and these others all stacks up and that gives me plenty to work off now. Thanks again.
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No problem, I can't yet see a connection to Denis McDaid's son William McDaid who married Rose Kelly, but hopefully other reader's eyes will.
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I saw that Roisin was buried with my grandparents, William McDaid and Rose Kelly, but didn't know why. William McDaid, in the same grave, I believe is my father's (Quinton) brother - born 1905. However, I don't have a Charles Gerard McDaid or Hannah Doherty on my family tree at all, neither Catherine Boyle nor James McDaid, so am intrigued as to what the link could be.
Thank you for all that information, Gaffy.
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Apart from Charles, four other children born to the McDaid/Boyle marriage in Londonderry (see 1911 census - reply #25).
Richard Alphonsus 1906, John Francis 1908, Catherine 1911 and Mary Kathleen 1914.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sm6/