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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Surrey => Topic started by: moors on Friday 09 June 06 13:32 BST (UK)
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Yes I have found under all these spellings of the above surname, in the Southwark area. Anybody have these surnames on their Family tree, 1800/1900
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i have the last name of hayward from surrey, lambeth in my husbands tree what are you looking for maybe i can help
allie
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Hello Starnamminhee, The Hayward of different spellings are on my husbands side of the family, also the surname Carr.
As I use the library for all my computer work I do not have my files with me, but I do know that the Hayward family have had all the spellings that are in the title of this e.mail over the years. I have all but the 1871 census (with the help of Rootschat) for Alfred Heywood (B) 1832 Rotherhithe/Bermondsey, I believe him to be unmarried at this date, so far nobody has managed to find him, leather dresser is the occupation later on. He was (M) at Newington 1853. Thats all I can remember at the moment.
Alice Elizabeth Carr (B) 1853 abt. I cannot find her (B) her Father Robert Carr coachman. I have her (M) cert. to Augustus Lovell 25/12/1871 she was a minor when (M) her Father Robert Carr coachman deceased. So far I have four (B) certificates none with Father Robert, one has no Father, only Mother (B) workhouse. So far have not found her on the 1871 census, which would give a clue. there is an Alice E. on the 1861 but not Father Robert, in later census (B) England, Newington and Pentonville, not alot of help. Will get back to you when I have more info. Ann
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Hi Janet
Alfred Samuel Heywood (b. 8th January 1832, Rotherhithe) is my great great grandfather, he appears to have been married twice, once in 1853 to a Mary Ann Manning Whitworth in Newington and the second time to Sarah Ann Page (although I have no record of this second marriage).
In the 1871 census (RG10 639 48 p39) he is living in Bermondsey at Hill? House:
Alfred Saml Heyward Head Age 39 Leather Shaver b.Bermondsey, Surrey
Sarah Wife Age 31 b. Deptford, Kent
Mary Ann Daughter Age 13 Scholar b. Bermondsey, Surrey
Sarah Sophia Daughter Age 5 b. Rotherhithe, Surrey
Samuel Son Age 3 b. Bermondsey, Surrey
Alice Daughter Age 1 b. Bermondsey, Surrey
Regards Tony
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To Eagletone, My connection is with Sarah Ann page, I have these details but as I use the library I will need to go home and look up all the details, so will get back to you. Ann
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Hi,
Marriage
Alfred Samuel Heyward - Sarah Ann Page
<Rotherhithe 1d 692 Mar.Qtr.1865>
Regards
Joburg
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Thanks Joburg
That's the marriage I'm looking for
Regards
Tony
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The 1871 census you have for Alfred Heywood I also have but I was given the surname as HEGEWALD and the address as George Terrace Bermondsey, but the rest of the details are the same.
Alfred Heywood (M) Sarah Page 6/3/1865 Her Father George Mother Sophia Ann (nee Jennings)
Alfred and Sarah (2nd wife) were the parents of my husbands Grandmother. On the 1881 census at 50 Downes St. Camberwell you will find Elizabeth Heywood (B) Peckham 1yr. (my husbands Grandmother)
I have Alfred Heywood on all of the census but one the 1851 do you have this??
I have Alfreds parents as Samuel Heywood (a leatherdresser)and Phillis.......he was (B) 8/1/1832 Salisbury St. Bermondsey(c)
19/1/1832 St. Marys church Rotherhithe.
I do not have the (M) of them do you have this?
I know about Alfreds 1st (M)
I hope this info is of interest to you.
Please get back to me, in the meantime are you aware of T.V. channel 4 Family Tree on teletext it is page 174/5. Ann
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Hi Ann
I have the 1851 census for Alfred he appears to be working as a baker's assistant in Great Ormond Street, this makes sense as I have the certificate of his first marriage to Mary Ann and he is listed as a baker on this.
Here are the census details (HO 107 1513 p35):
21 Gt. Ormond St. William Goodrich Head Age 50 Baker b. Suffolk
Then there are fourteen other people on this page including
Alfred Saml. Hayood Servant Age 19 Baker (no indication of birthplace)
I can send you a copy of this if you like.
If you have all the other censuses you will be aware of the family moving to Leeds and back in the 1890s. I do have Alfred's birth date as 8/1/1832 but the Salisbury Street, Rotherhithe is news to me, although I have a christening on 19th February 1832 at St. Mary's, Rotherhithe. I too have Samuel and Phillis as his parents, but I do not have any details of their marriage.
I may have found Samuel's father on the LDS website, but not substantiated:
Samuel Fisher Heyward b.5th Nov. 1809 Christened 29th May 1811 at St. Mary's, Rotherhithe.
Father: George Heyward Mother: Sarah . . . (LDS website - IGI batch No.C006251)
I haven't delved very far into the Page/Jennings side apart from gleaning some details from the LDS website.
Thank you for the teletext info I will have a look during lunch.
Regards
Tony
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Hello Eagletone, Thank you for ino re 1851 census Alfred HAYOOD (I expect it was because of the spelling that it was not found)
As I explained to you on my last message I have all the rest of the census with his 2nd wife. If you wish to have the details let me know.
It appears you are descended from the ist (M) and my husband from the 2nd (M)
The info. I got was from the LDS re Samuel to Phillis his wife. Thank you for his Fathers (B) details 1809 etc.
I was interested in your list of places for your family members, Essex High Roothing, I have Hartgroves and Harknett surnames from that area.
The Page /Jennings I have of Page and a little of Jennings if you are interested.
my e.mail address is majeffery4 at yahoo.co.uk if you wish to contact me that way. Ann
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i have been researching the Hayward Bros (Ironmongers) of Southwark (the sign of the Dog and Pot):
Edward Lambert HAYWARD (1811-1876)
William HAYWARD (1824-1902)
my ggg grandfather referred to them as "uncle"
regards,
ben...
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I have looked at what I have re Haywards (B) 1807 to 1817 in Sothwark none only in Rotherhithe. I have Haywards (B) in Southwark area 1870 at St. Saviour and St. Olaves but not with names Edward and William. My haywards were in the leather trade. 1841 living at Cook buildings, Clarance St. (St. George the Marty) Southwark. So NO connection, perhaps a distant relation?
My Lamberts come from Lincolnshire. early 1800s. Ann