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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: berylm on Friday 09 June 06 11:53 BST (UK)
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Hi :)
Please, is anyone researching Ewhurst families?
My gt grandmother was Maria Baker,
daughter of Thomas Baker and his wife Mary Crouch
b. 22 June 1815 Ewhurst, Sussex.
(She married William Kennard, 24 Feb 1834 at Brede, Sussex)
Are there any electronic records?
BerylM
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Hi Beryl,
What sort of records are you looking for? Do you want to go backwards, forwards? Find any siblings etc?
Do you have her parents' marriage? I see they married in 1805.
There are a number of resources which can be used to find these details but not necessarily online. Obviously the census records are now available through Ancestry but that is a subscription service. There are some records available online. Chris has listed thosae he has found on this board:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,317.0.html
I have found other children baptised to Thomas & Mary Baker in Ewhurst, but not Maria ??? I found Spencer and Samuel (1807 and 1813 respectively). What else do you know about the family?
Nell
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Hi Nell
I am looking for BDM - for the Baker family going backwards.
I would like to find siblings, and if I can, go back another generation or two.
It is quite possible that they moved around.
Last weekend at a family christening - a 3rd or 4th cousin was quizzing me
about gt grandmother Maria, and I realised I knew little about her.
No I don't have her parents marriage. I would appreciate that.
Also, the other siblings baptisms.
Will then also have a go on the Crouch family.
I can see I will most probably have to go back to the LDS library.
Maria Kennard (nee Baker) was an assisted emigrant to NSW in 1838 - "Lady Nugent". She gave them as her parents, and said her age was 23.
I forget where I got the date from, it was a long time ago in was researching.
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~Smckelvey/pre1848/First.htm
This is the first chapter of our family tree, and gives a picture of Maria,
most probably taken in 1898 at the time of the Otago 50th anniversary.
(The Free Church Settlement of 1848)
Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
BerylM
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Thomas Baker married Mary Crouch 17 July 1805 Ewhurst.
Unfortunately no other information shows in the index.
Possible baptisms for siblings (assuming that they stayed in Ewhurst)
Spencer Baker bapt 20 Dec 1807
Samuel Baker bapt 20 Jun 1813
There is another Ewhurst baptism to a Thomas & Mary Baker:
Edward bapt 30 May 1802
I have no way of knowing if they are connected - sorry. Thomas Bakers abound in Sussex!
As I say I can't find Maria - I wonder of she was baptised elsewhere and I don't have access to the record?
Since Maria emigrated in 1838 no hope on the census! Unless her parents stayed behind?
Nell
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Hi Nell
Thank you for that info.
How many Thomas Bakers were there?
re: where did we get Maria's dates from?
I remembered that I inherited that data from my cousin's who did the first family tree, "The green book" back in the '60s. They went around the country visiting all the relations. The family will be forever grateful to them.
They said they visited one of the elder branches, and someone "went into another room" and came back with all this information. They and I, suspect a "Family bible" was the source of the information.
The other dates have been correct. So, perhaps they moved, and she was baptised in a different parish!
I have just been looking at the NSW Entitlement Certificate from 1838
Name: Maria Kennard
A native of: Ewehurst Sussex
Parents names: Daughter of Thomas Baker a labourer in Ewehurst and
Mary Crouch his wife
Age on embarkation: Twenty three 22 July 1838
(Her husband was given as twenty five, 23 March 1838.
Turned out to have been bapt. in Rolvenden, not Tenderden
23 April 1813)
I guess therefore that she will be bapt nearby - do you happen to know what villages are closeby?
Beryl
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Hi
Just to put this in some sort of perspective, in 1941 there were 91 males called Thomas Baker in Sussex. Two of them are in Ewhurst but only youngsters of 13ish. They may well be connected though.
You should be able to access an online map which will show you where Ewhurst is and what other villages are near. It is between Robertsbridge and Northiam and fairly close to Salehurst, Bodiam and Staple Cross. IGI coverage of those parishes is poor. The registers will be at Lewes Record Office so you could contact them or you can order the films from your nearest LDS centre and search them there at your leisure. They are worldwide.
Andrea
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There is a Thomas Baker who married MaryTownsend in 1790 in Lewes; Thomas Baker who married Mary Boner in 1796 in Southease; Thomas Baker who married Mary Foster in Guestling in 1799; Thomas Baker who married Mary Blundell in Etchingham in 1812. Then there are the Thomas Bakers who married Ann, Elizabeth, Sarah etc all around the same time.
I wonder if Maria might have been baptised in Kent? Ewhurst is on the Kent border.
Nell
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Hi Nell
Thank you for those.
I am truely amazed what I have discovered this weekend.
Will need to go to the LDS - fortunately for me we have one just up the hill from my home!
Beryl
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Hello
I have as witnesses to the marriage in 1805 a Samuel Cooper and a Ruth Lexford ( or Luxford). I have been doing the SMITH families of that area and my line is connected to the Baker family of Ewhurst. Sarah Baker b.1760 ( John & Sarah unk) married 1781 William SMITH at Mountfield.
Their son, John Smith M.1801 in Ewhurst to Charlotte Smith, dau. of Richard & Jane Lavender, born in Ewhurst in 1785.
A correspondent in Oz who has worked with me on the Smiths sent these Baker extracts;
Baker Ann Thomas/Mary bur 18 May 1800 "Ewhurst, Ssx"
Baker Ann Thomas/Mary c 25 May 1800 "Ewhurst, Ssx"
Baker Edmund Thomas/Mary c 30 May 1802 "Ewhurst, Ssx"
Baker Elizabeth Thomas/Mary c 11 May 1806 "Ewhurst, Ssx"
Baker Spencer Thomas/Mary c 20 Feb 1807 "Ewhurst, Ssx"
Baker Mary Anna Thomas/Mary c 10 Sep 1809 "Ewhurst, Ssx"
Baker Anna Thomas/Mary c 01 Aug 1819 "Ewhurst, Ssx"Laborer
Baker Aaron Thomas/Mary c 02 Jul 1826 "Ewhurst, Ssx"
Hope this helps.
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Thank you Legacy. This is all most interesting!
I have yet to check the Ewhurst PR.
Getting these things sent "down under" takes weeks!
I wonder if these are also MY Thomas and Mary Baker,
(or if there were several couples of the same name in the area)
I am particularly interested in the Aaron Baker!
My gt gt grandmother Maria Baker ( b.2 June 1815 Ewhurst)
who married William Kenard, named my gt gandfather, Aaron.
Family legend said she wanted to name a child Moses!
Having looked at 19th century naming patterns in the area
they came from, I have found this wouldn't have been all that unusual!
BerylM
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Maria Kennard (nee Baker) was an assisted emigrant to NSW in 1838 - "Lady Nugent". She gave them as her parents, and said her age was 23.
I forget where I got the date from, it was a long time ago in was researching.
Well, one place is here http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/
Enter Kennard in the search box on the right hand side.
Tick Indexes and go
then open index to persons on government ships ....
And she is listed as "wife 23" in the remarks of William Kennard.
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I've have been told that a Samuel Baker (born 1813 Ewhurst Sussex, Eng) is the son of Thomas Baker and Mary Crouch.
Samuel married Anne Goodsell in 1834 and their first child was Alice. all three moved to sydney, NSw, Australia on the Palmyra arriving in Sep 1838.
They settled at Surry Hills (now just east of Central Railway Station), produced a further nine children and most are buried in the grave yard at St Peters Church, St Peters (a few miles south).
Anne Goodsell (born 1817) is the daughter of Henry Goodsell and Mary Smith.
I am another one who would be interested in any further information.
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Hi TerryC
We seem to have common ancestors back in Sussex.
Nell told me about a week ago about Samuel b. 1813.
I have yet to confirm where Maria was bapt.
I have the info from NSW Archives, having contacted them about 1977.
The info from them enabled us to do abit on the Kennard line
(I have recently discovered however, a glaring error!)
I have only started this line of enquiry, having concentrated on the Kennard line.
I am not really surprised to hear that your Samuel ended up in NSW as well.
There was a book published on emigration to NZ which stated quite
clearly that people emigrated in groups!
Maria was the matriarch of one of the original Otago families.
William and Maria Kennard are buried at Palmerston, NZ.
They had 12 children - there are 9 descendant lines, some out to 8 generations!
Our family tree is enormous! I did the last book in 1990.
The complete Blanch family who were the cousins of my gt gt grandfather William Kennard also emigrated to NSW in 1838. - (I have a copy of their family tree book)
I have also seen blurbs for the NZ Company encouraging emigration to NZ in 1839!
I intend following back on this line
BerylM
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TerryC
Now you have me very interested as you mentioned the magic word 'SMITH'.
I already have Henry Gutsell (Goodsell) and Mary Smith as it connects with my line, she being a first cousin, 5 times removed. The relationships in these families are confirmed by the Methodist records. Here they are;
R.G.4/1985 Wesleyan Methodists -Staplehurst / Sandhurst (LDS#597066 )
p.27 #139 Ellen dau. Samuel Baker of padgham, ewhurst & ann who was the dau.(
henry & mary goodsell ) b.31-8-34 bpt 2-11-34 by M.Rayner
RG 4/935 Weslyan Methodist Staple Cross Transcription ( also on LDS#883937)
p.4 Nov.18,32 Bpt. Mary GOODSALL ( Henry & Mary his wife, dau. Richard & Ann SMITH) b.Oct.14,32
p.48 c.17 May 1835 Joseph s/o Henry GOODSELL, Laborer, of Ewhurst Green, & Mary, his wife, d/o Richard SMITH born 20 Apr 1835
EWHURST, Sussex #1067149 Item 11-- Marr.1813-37;
#3 24-5-1813 Henry GOODSELL & Mary SMITH , minor, by banns Thos. Russell
p.76 #226 ; 19-7-34 Samuel BAKER banns & Ann GOODSALL Thos.Bourne, Ann Smith
Hope this helps you both.
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Thanks to everyone for their little and big bits. I am slowly digesting it all.
Spending a bit of time atm trying to work out what happened to Ellen Baker, i.e trying to find her on shipping lists (why does the Palmyra list hide all the time)
Found this
http://www.fairhall.id.au/resources/maitland/maitland.htm
Which is interesting because it picks up on Beryl's comment about groups going out from same area. This is the 1838 trip of the Maitland and it lists the families and where they came from. One from Ewhurst, one from Brede, lots of Kent and other Sussex.
Says the parish paid five pounds to shift their poor. Would there be a list/(s) anywhere?
No baker
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Hi TerryC
I would agree that it is wonderful that everyone is adding to the story.
Back in 1977 having heard of the Index to Bounty immigrants arriving 1828-42, I wrote to the Archives Office of NSW, Sydney, and, the State Library of NSW. They supplied me with all the info I needed, including refs to microfilm which I was able to interloan. (There was a joint Copying Project with the NZ Nat. Library)
I believe Archives Authority of NSW has all the info you want.
I didnt find anywhere near the information that I was supplied with on http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/
Most of those quotes on the Maitland will be on an archives microfilm. (AO reel no. ) They can tell you all about the individuals who emigrated, and who they were placed with on arrival in NSW.
One of the groups of our Blanch cousin's was on the Maitland !
Edward Blanch & family, Rolvenden Kent.
It sounds as if they had a horrific passage!
Some emigration barracks at ports of departure were worse than others,
and, people who were sick did manage to get onto emigrant ships. :'(
The 'Lady Nugent' was a holiday camp in contrast.
The Otago Settlers Museum in Dunedin, NZ, has an exhibit
of 'below decks' on a 19th century immigrant ship.
I really feels like you are back there! It creaks & appears to move!
We also have a Quarantine Island in Otago Harbour.
There is a cemetery on the city side, looking down to the town they
never got too. Most graves are for children.
There was a memorial unveiled on the Arthur St Cemetery monument, after the Otago 150th anniversary to the children who were lost on emigrant ships on the way over during the emigration period!
Th economic situation at that time, in Kent/Sussex was bad!
I am sure the Parish authorities were keen to remove as many people as possible.
The Poor Rate was paid by the wealthier to maintain the poor. The four main purposes of the rate were " for providing stock, putting to work, putting out poor children as apprentices, and for the necessary relief of the poor".
Emigration gave the possibility of a better life somewhere else.
What about the Parish chests? These were where peoples transfers were filed.
Perhaps the parish accounts would also record if they assisted x numbers of persons to emigrate.
BerylM
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Hi Nell
I am pleased to report that a parent search on IGI for Thomas Baker / Mary
came up with the christening entry for Maria Baker
23 JUL 1815 Ewhurst, Sussex, England
Am fascinated to see what can be got from the IGI.
Am still working on another line, but plan to do the Ewhurst PR after that.
Thanks everyone for all your assistance :)
BerylM
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That's good! Wonder why I couldn't see her in the stuff I was looking at? A small mystery.
I'm glad you found her!
Nell
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Hi
Thank you to everyone who contributed to this column.
I have been immersed in the Ewhurst PR for the past month.
This is a complete register going back to the time of Elizabeth I.
The early pages are challenging, having to read an unfamiliar script, but a
photocopy from a book on early handwriting has been most useful.
I am pleased to report that the Baker and Merrick families are traceable
back to the early 17th century. As they say "from time immemorial" . :D
It was fascinating to discover we are descended from the village blacksmith!
I have always wondered why my grandfather was such a big man.
I guess it was in the genes.
I have screeds of notes, so if anyone else is interested in these names, let me know.
Cheers
BerylM
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HI BERYLE
MARIA BAKER WAS CHRISTENED 23 JULY 1815 TO THOMAS BAKER AND MARY CROUCH AT BODIAM[EWHURST]
HER BROTHER SAMUEL CH.20 JUNE 1813 DID COME TO AUSTRALIA ON THE PALMYRA, ALSO MARY THEIR SISTER CH.10 SEPTEMBER 1809 CAME OUT ON THE MAITLAND 1838.
MARY BAKER WAS ONE OF MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS.
THIS WILL HELP YOU.
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HI BERYLM
YES YOU ARE ALSO RIGHT ABOUT THE MERRICKS THEY DO JOIN UP WITH THE BAKERS THROUGH THE CROUCH FAMILY.
THE MERIK/MERRICKS GO BACK AS FAR AS 1597
HAPPY RESEARCH
COLIN[COUSINS]
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Hi Colin
Glad to met you
Maria Baker was my gt gt grandmother
I spent weeks looking at the Ewhurst PR on microfilm & got back to
William Merricks bap 1673 m. Anne Mosley 1693.
Have you got this all written up?
Have been chatting by email with several descendants of Samuel Baker in Australia.
Was your Mary Baker, Mary Anna Baker bap 10 Sept 1809?
I also have a Thomas and Mary Baker's youngest daughter Mary , bap. 25 July 1830?
(To have emigrated to NSW in 1838 she would have needed to be the older.)
Who was she married to?
Another group of my cousins the Blanch family from Rolvenden were also on the Maitland in 1838. I have been reading a book on Medical Superintendents on emigrant ships and that was unfortunately sailing. :'(
It would seem as if Samuel, Maria, Mary, and Aaron Baker all emigrated to Australia!
Great to chat to you
BerylM
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Hi Berylm
There was a Aaron Baker born to a Thomas and Mary in 1826 Ewhurst but I am not sure if he is ours or not.
Came to Australia with his wife Sophia in 1857 on the ship John Bunyan Film 2138/ 2476 Sophia died 1857 parents were also Thomas and Mary, AAron remarried in 1862 to a Caroline Furner reg. at Chippendale and they had a large family in the Glebe Redfern area.
Aaron died 1907 reg. Granville and parents given as Thomas and mary.
Need to see this film before I could say where he came from but I do not go to the Latter Day Saints very often now.
I think one of his children was named Moses and another Alice and Samuel.
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Hi
There is a archival entry I have which lists the last 2 children of Mary Baker (nee Crouch) as Aaron & Mary.
I have seen both the bap. entries in the Ewhurst PR. The one for Mary is easily missed!
I have been sent the family tree of the Aaron Baker family in Australia.
I spent weeks with the Ewhurst PR & have the list of Thomas & Mary's children. I didnt know they had a Moses.
Maria Kennard (nee Baker) named her last son Aaron.
He was my gt grandfather!
BerylM
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Hello Berylm & Oshsenkopff
I would think Aaron is their son as long as we are talking about the same couple, Thomas & Mary. See my previous posting for the bapt., as Thomas & Mary are common for first names. I also found this on the A2A SITE for Ewhurst removal orders;
Reference: PAR324/32/3/88 Removal order to Ewhurst
Creation dates: 16 Jun 1831
Scope and Content
Mary, wife of Thomas Baker, and children Aaron (5) and Mary (2) from Wrotham, Kent Endorsed: suspension of order; re-instatement of Order, 25 Jul 1831
I too have been looking at the films for Ewhurst given my connections to the Baker, Goodsell and Smith families from there.
Would the Samuel Baker, b.1813, not be the one who M.1834 Ewhurst to Ann Gutsell, dau. of Henry & Mary Smith?
Legacy
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Hi Legacy
Yes the removal order is what I was meaning by the "Archive". That confirmed for me the Aaron & Mary, as the youngest children.
Indeed Samuel Baker did marry a Goodsell. I spent hours late last year transcribing Goodsells for one of my Aussie cousins.
There are a number of Samuel Baker descendants in Australia busily compiling trees!
Are you another Baker descendant?
I would be interested to hear if any of the family actually stayed in England.
BerylM
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Hi
There is a archival entry I have which lists the last 2 children of Mary Baker (nee Crouch) as Aaron & Mary.
I have seen both the bap. entries in the Ewhurst PR. The one for Mary is easily missed!
I have been sent the family tree of the Aaron Baker family in Australia.
I spent weeks with the Ewhurst PR & have the list of Thomas & Mary's children. I didnt know they had a Moses.
Maria Kennard (nee Baker) named her last son Aaron.
He was my gt grandfather!
BerylM
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Hi Berylm
Sorry you misunderstood me about Moses being the son of Thomas and Mary I meant Aaron and Caroline but checking again I discover that it should have been Amos and another of Aarons sons was Caleb.
I am counting on Aaron Baker as the one who was living in or around Redfern Sydney area and not the Aaron who married to Hannnah and living at Wagga.
Do you know If I have the right one?
Aaron apparently had no less than eleven children.
Mary Baker 1830 as you said came to Australia as well but why than would Thomas and Mary[nee Crouch] have two children with the same first name the other being MaryAnna 1809 my 3 times G/Grandmother?
Did you have the details of Aaron's shipping records?
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Hi Terry
I have a little info on a Ellen Baker who was buried Ewhurst 24th May 1878 aged 49 there is a small possibility it could be our missing Ellen Augusta but two things are against it the first one is she should have been 54 not 49 but knowing death information it is usually wrong and the other thing is she would have had to been single.
She is the only Ellen Baker that I have come across may be something to work on as you have nothing else.
Colin
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Hi Terry
I have a little info on a Ellen Baker who was buried Ewhurst 24th May 1878 aged 49 there is a small possibility it could be our missing Ellen Augusta but two things are against it the first one is she should have been 54 not 49 but knowing death information it is usually wrong and the other thing is she would have had to been single.
She is the only Ellen Baker that I have come across may be something to work on as you have nothing else.
Colin
I'll consider it, but the cons are very high.
1) Ellen would had had to have been left behind as a young child (age 10) when the family left and I know of no reason for this atm.
2) High probability that this is a cousin. Some families have strong (very strong) naming patterns.
3) The IGI has 8 Ellen Bakers born in Sussex. within 2 years of 1829, when this 49 year old person could have been born. Plus Ewhurst is close to Kent and Surrey, so there could easily have been more contenders.
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Hi Everyone
I have to admit to now being abit lost, :-[
in all these names of my gt gt grandmother Maria Bakers' nieces and nephews.
By any chance have any of you managed to work out what happened to Mary Baker (nee Crouch) wife of Thomas?
BerylM
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Hi Berylm
In answer to your question on Mary Baker nee Crouch about her death the answer is unfortunately I found nothing on her when looking on church records years ago but there was a burial for her husband Thomas 17/1/1856 age 71 which also confirms the shipping records for Aaron Baker 1857 that he said both parents had died so it is a small stepping stone for at least we know Mary died before 1857.
Aaron Baker had mentioned his parents as Thomas and Mary but no maiden name for her.
He also mentioned no relatives living in the country but Samuel and Mary Anna both had already arrived before him.
Strange to was the fact that Mary Anna Baker had no relatives here either but Samuel had arrived a few months earlier.
the reason being might have been that her first husband was a convict and they may have disowned her.
The first wife of Aaron as I said before was Sophia and shipping records say her father was Thomas Fuller and mother Mary.
Sophia came from Sutton Valance Kent which is about 14 miles north of Ewhurst /Bodium.
Have you any conformation on Aaron's mother's maiden name[Mary Crouch] say through a death certificate?
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Hi Berylm
I have confirmed By shipping records that Aaron's parents were Thomas and Mary but no maiden name for her.
Both parents had died which I know Thomas was buried 17/1/1856 age 71 so that one is confirmed and at least we now know that Mary had passed away before 1857.
Have you any death certificates stating Aaron's mother as Mary Crouch that would be the proof of the pudding as we say in Australia or anything else which may indicate who she was?
Aaron states no relatives were living here but both Samuel and Mary Ann had already arrived, a strange family.
Mary Ann Roser[nee Baker] said the same thing but Samuel had arrrived a few months earlier maybe with her first husband being a convict they did not want to associate with her?
Colin
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Aaron states no relatives were living here but both Samuel and Mary Ann had already arrived, a strange family.
Mary Ann Roser[nee Baker] said the same thing but Samuel had arrrived a few months earlier maybe with her first husband being a convict they did not want to associate with her?
Colin
Aaron may have had to say that no family was living here to get cheaper rates, if he came assisted.
He may not have know where Samuel & Mary Ann were. At the time, 1857, they were working on Hamilton Hume's first property at Appin.
Umm, I thought Mary Ann Roser(nee baker) came out a few years after Samuel, Mary Ann & Alice Baker (Pamyra in Sept 1838).
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Hi Terry
Yes Samuel arrived here 26th September 1838 and Mary Anna also arrived 1838 on the ship Maitland with her husband John Roser and two children, others to arrive on same ship were Blanch relations to Aaron, Fairhall relations to Roser, Apps and many more names, even my Vidler family all 1838.
Can't think of the date for the Maitland arrival but it was within a few months.
I have got a passenger list beside me and it had the date of 15th November 1830 but it is a misprint for the year it should have been 1838.
Colin
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Hi Everyone
My apologies for having been quiet lately.
I am intreged!
Colin could you please tell me how the Blanch family is connected to Aaron Baker?
As I know it the Blanch's were related to Maria Baker.
Maria Bakers's mother-in-law was Sarah Blanch (m. Thomas Kennard),
she was the sister of Edward Blanch, the father of the extended Blanch family.
- I have a copy of the Blanch family tree 'A forest of Blanches"
I only discovered that Maria had a younger brother called Aaron recently.
I have been sent a print out on that family, but apart from that I know little.
On her documentation entering NSW in 1838 Maria stated her mother was Mary Baker nee Crouch. I duly found the entry in the Ewhurst register.
I have recently discovered a short biography of Maria Kennard (nee Baker)
in a book on " Women in New Zealand in the nineteenth century"
Have any of you spent time in the Ewhurst churchyard?
Are there any tombstones for Baker / Crouch / Merricks / Mosely
that would be of interest to us?
I am looking forward to visiting it
BerylM
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Hi Beryl
Sorry AAron Baker is not blood related to that family but connected through Maria his sister? which Aarons parents are for sure Thomas and Mary, this I know through the church records for Ewhurst and also his death is registered with the B.D.& M. Sydney N.S.W.
We need that proof on his mother being Mary Crouch and if you are going to make a visit to the cemetery maybe on Thomas's grave site he may mention his children also?[Thomas Baker Died 17/5/1856 aged71]
For the moment Aaron did marry Sophia Fuller Reg. Free B.D.& M. March 1857 Hollingbourne which is not far from where she was born 30/11/1825 ch. 6/2/1826 Sutton Vallence Kent parents Thomas Breman Fuller mother Mary.
As I said before Sophia died the same year they arrived in Australia 1857 maybe she died in child birth ?
There is a web site with Aarons marriage to his second wife and their children on Rootsweb.
I will have to get back to you on those Baker/Crouch/ Merrick and Mosely families as it is going to take some time working it all out, although I have had the church records to look I got a bit bored with having so many names to search through that I didn't write everything down.
My Niece came from Otago but moved to England but her sister is still living in New Zealand what a small world it is .
Working it out my Nieces may be 3rd cousins to you not sure without family connections
Colin
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Hi Colin
According to the Ewhurst PR
Aaron Baker was the son of Thomas & Mary Baker bap 2 Jul 1826.
Given that we have our Mary Baker, being escorted back to Ewhurst with her 2 youngest children Aaron & Mary - I am pretty confident, he was one of the family
I have a copy of that 2nd Aaron Baker family tree
It is very likely, given the fact that his sister Maria, then used that name for her youngest son, who was my gt grandfather
I am in email contact with several Samuel Baker descendants in NSW.
There is alot of sharing between us.
I will definitely be visiting Ewhurst & a number of other Sussex villages, from where
this line comes. But I am not sure that I will find too many tombstones!
I used to transcribe tombstones years ago, so I know the business.
When I get home again I will revisit the Ewhurst PR
Cheers
BerylM
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Hello All
I have been following this thread and have a possible Mary Crouch for you to consider. Could she be Mary Crouch, dau. of William & Sarah Pettit, bpt. at Salehurst 1785-3-20. This is on the assumption that she was about 20 at the time of her marriage to Thos. Baker. Also the fact that Salehurst and Ewhurst are within walking distance of each other, only a few miles apart.
William Crouch married 1781-4-19 at Bodiam to Sarah Pettit.
Hope this helps.
Legacy
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Hi Legacy
That is fascinating!
I can see I will be having fun with this one for sometime.
When I get back I will have to start requesting registers.
BerylM
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Hi Beryl
I have just posted a message to Legacy about Mary Crouch but it has not appeared must be lost in space.
I had asked for a back up from you as I thought you may have the same details as myself.
Church Records has Thomas Crouch married to Sarah Merricks 12th May1783 at Ewhurst, Mary Crouch christened 2nd November 1783 who married Thomas Baker.
As you and I are doing the same lines of Baker/ Crouch/Mosley/ Merricks and so on we have to agree or someone is wrong.
Did you say in your previous messages that you were going to Sussex to look for deaths at the cemeteries? if so then if you have gone back further than myself than you may want to look for these names.
Bartholomew Mosely 1645+
Mary Mosely1645-1648 the first wife of Bartholomew Joan his second wife I believe who had married him 14/9/1648
Stephen Mosely 1674+ wife Magdalen {Ranvil] 1674+ Married 1668Ewhurst
Thomas Baker 1674 - Wife Jane [Rogers] 1719+
Joseph Merrick died 1748 wife Mary[ Bull] died 1748 parents for both of these would confirm my findings but probably not on tombstones or worn away.
And not to forget Mary Baker nee Crouch she may be buried with Thomas Baker who was buried 7/3/1856 aged 71
Colin
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Hi Colin
I have all the same names as you re Merricks/Mosley and all that from the Ewhurst register. All of them fit really well.
I have now been sent a tree, which includes alot of info for the lines, that have spouses, moving in from villages to the west of Ewhurst.
I can see we will be doing a village crawl!
I looked back at my notes, and there was another Thomas Baker who moved in, after alot of the locals had gone to NSW, who I think is the Thomas Baker d. 1856
The Bakers seem to have gone along swimmingly until
Thomas Baker m. Mary Crouch.
They appear to have had problems!!
I wonder if he was the Thomas Baker bur. Ewhurst 1833.
I am convinced my 3 gt gt grandmother was Mary Crouch, as my
Maria said so when she went to NSW.
I will however, check the other suggestion, when I get those registers
to check the other earlier ancestors I have now become aware of.
I have just been looking at a book on castles, that has a lovely photo of the
area surrounding Bodiam Castle. Fascinating to think the ancestors lived alongside.
BerylM
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Hi Beryl
There are two family trees having a Thomas Baker marrying a Sarah Ellis Catt 25/2/1808 Northian, one saying all the children were born in Northian and the other saying that some children were born there but then they moved to Ewhurst both agree that Thomas was the one that died 1856 Ewhurst But neither can prove by Church Records where Thomas Baker was actually born but give his birth as 1784 one saying he came from Kent the other not sure now.
Sarah Ellis Baker nee Catt did die in Ewhurst as Sarah Alice Baker but was this Thomas Baker 1856 her husband or Mary Crouch's?
It is so confusing and frustrating sometimes but we have to carry on and prove who is right.
Now I have probably frustrated you, sorry.
Colin
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As a long time interested follower of this string and having a mother named Baker from Hastings, I suggest that when everybody is exhausted there is always Y chromosomal DNA testing which can, with high probability, resolve some nearer term lineage issues such as which line is decended from which male Baker provided the research has been done to identify current male descendents to cross check.We have done some already with a valid result. Best Wishes and Good luck! Lumber-Jack
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Hi
I think that there are at least 2 Thomas Baker's who lived at Ewhurst, around this time.
In the 1851 census:
Thomas Baker, husband of Sara Ellis Catt says he was born in Hawkhurst, Kent.
So he isn't our ancestor.
Our Thomas Baker who was bapt. at Ewhurst 4 July 1784 & m Mary Crouch 17 July 1805.
Might have died in England, but I have also been told he went to NSW.
Given that so many of this family did end up in NSW that wouldnt surprise me.
BerylM
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Hi Beryl
I;m back again and last night I asked for a 1851 census look up for Thomas Baker and Mary at Ewhurst a fast reply from two kind hearted people gave me the answer I did'nt want to hear but as you are well aware that the Thomas Baker that died at Ewhurst has to be the Thomas that was born at Hawkhurst Kent and as I mentioned Sarah Baker nee Catt was also buried there which left me knowing that our Thomas and Mary had gone walk abouts to destinations unknown.
For what it is worth at the moment and it is only a theory I found a Thomas and Mary Baker and family coming into Victoria Australia on the ship Westminister 1841 2143A Film 4/4813 Page 194 it's a long shot because of their age but they could have lied about that too?
If this is the right family which I doubt who was left to come out with Thomas and Mary?
Another thing is last night I came across another child born to a Thomas Baker and Mary his name being James and he was christened 2/9/1821 Ewhurst which puts him in the centre of Ann 1819 and Aaron 1826
Thomas Baker 1783 had a brother named James so it is a good possibility he named his son by the same name.
This James married a Sabina Neves but the Banns were one year before their actually marriage, I know that they had at least seven children.
Colin
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My point is that if there is ever a need to distinguish between male descendents of these two Thomas Bakers and standard genealogical research fails, then it shoould be possible to develop with some selective testing ( and at some expense and with the cooperation of the descendent donors) the DNA "signatures" of each. Granted this would be a last resort and I don't wish to throw any "red herrings" into this string. Tests are also interesting for other reasons such as deep ancestry and as information to leave for the next generation of genealogiststo use as technology , global datatbases and interpretation expand. Good luck.....Lumber-Jack
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Hi Colin
Did the children for the Thomas Baker / Mary for this 1841
agree with what we know?
We also know that Aaron didnt leave until the 1850's.
They would have hardly left without him!
There are about 4 lines from there children in Australia/NZ
- Mary, Samuel, Aaron & Maria (NZ)
It was being suggested to me that Thomas came with one of them.
They appear to be our problem. The rest of the tree
goes back wonderfully. We just need to solve the problem of what happened to them.
I also have a ref for a death of a Thomas Baker in Ewhurst in 1833 - I will recheck this when I get the PR back
Cheers
BerylM
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Hi Beryle
The 1841 census that I received had no Thomas Baker and Mary at Ewhurst they had vanished so may be they did come out in 1841 to Australia on the Westminister the next step is to ask for 1841 census on Aaron Baker and see where he was at the time.
The death I have for 7/2/1833 was for Thomas Baker's father Joseph not Thomas born 1783 but you may have something that I have'nt .
Colin
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Hi Colin
I had also tried the 1841 & 1851 census's with no success.
Yes re the Aaron Baker request.
Hopefully with that name, he should appear somewhere
BerylM
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Hi
Legacy & Terry
Concerning Ellen Baker yes she was born and christened for both those dates church records confirm Ellen Augusta Baker to Samuel Baker and Ann Goodsell.
Wesleyan Methodist Batch no. Co68231 1832-1837 Film 0596907[RG4 925] print-out 883937 information I.G.I.
Something interesting is that Ellen seems to have disappeared but I believe both of you ladies are descended from Samuel and Ann Goodsell and if so do either of you know anything about Emma Baker who died 23rd February 1868 in Newtown N.S.W. certificate 1714 2184 parents Samuel and Ann the thing is that I can find no birth for her but a cousin has given me this Emma as being born around 1843/4 to Samuel Baker and Ann Goodsell.
I thought this Emma maybe Ellen Augusta who changed her first name for some reason but after going through shipping records I have come up with one Ellen Baker who came out to Australia on the Castilian1858 her age being 24[ spot on] two children Emma 4 and Ann 1 James Baker aged 28 I have my doubts as Ellen would have had to marry a James Baker but possible.???
Any ideas on this Emma?
Colin
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Hi All
What were the b. & chr dates for Ellen Baker in the Wesleyan index?
I believe that in the Ewhurst PR - I transcibed it last year.
Ellen Augusta Baker was bur. Ewhurst, Sussex Oct 25th 1835 aged 1 yr.
I am reliably informed that:
Samuel Baker 's death certificate mentions only 11 children, 10 alive when he died in 1869.
Only Alice went with him on the Palmyra in 1838.
Regarding Emma Baker:
Have you considered that she is the daughter of:
Samuel Sparks and Ann Potter
She marr. Joseph Baker (son of Samuel Baker & Anne Goodsell) on 25 Dec 1865
Had 1 child. Henry J. b. 1866.
She died Newtown NSW on 23 Feb 1868.
Joseph Baker then remarried a Dumvelia Taafe and has descendants.
There are a number of Samuel Baker descendants who are working on this tree.
Cheers
BerylM
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Just a small piece of info. If you are going to approach county records office, please be aware that Ewehurst is now is Surrey not Sussex
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Sorry but there is a parish of Ewhurst in both counties and they are not adjacent to one another! Ewhurst Sussex is in East Sussex over near the Kent border. Ewhurst Surrey is north of Rudgwick area of West Sussex.
Nell
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oops, and I only lived on Sussex for 30 years :-X!
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Hi Beryl
Nice to have you back again.
I have an I.G.I. record on Ellen Augusta Baker born to Samuel Baker and Ann Goodsell.
birth date 31 August 1834 Christened 2 November 1835 Staplecross-Wesleyan Methodist Ewhurst Sussex England
Batch No. C068231 Film no. 0596907[Rg4 925 Print out 883937
Another oops from me also as I have already given you this information on Ellen and the only thing I querie is that you say that Ellen was buried 25 October 1835 and yet she was christened later.
I am wondering if it should have been buried 1836 as this would have been better suited as she then would have been 1 year old.
You are right Alice was the only child to come out with Samuel and Ann.
Regards Colin
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Hi Colin
I have a sequence of burials for 1835, and Ellen is in the middle of them, so I am convinced that it was 1835. I have a couple of Goodsalls also buried in 1835. Another cousin & I agree on this.
In 1836 there are several Crouch burials, & William Baker (b. 1752) buried 21 Aug 1836 ag. 74 yrs. Was unable to get photocopies, and it is a couple of months since I transcribed this,
but I think the register was on forms by this stage, so I think I would have got the years right.
Strange about the christening! Have we got the same person!
I will be getting this register back again, when I will have time to revised my research laterin the year. That will be after the OE. It is going to be incredible to visit this churchyard!
Another cousin has sent me this lovely tree with alot of other contributing families,
who are from the parishes to the west of Ewhurst, Sussex. I am still trying to absorb all this.
Cheers
BerylM
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Hi Beryle
The info I gave you about Ellen Baker is correct as it stipulates parents as Samuel Baker and Ann Goodsell if you go to the The Latter Day Saints Family Search and type in Ellen Baker 1834 and put parents as Samuel and Ann you will come up with the goods.
Yes I too have seen the church records for burials for Ewhurst but although I wrote down a fair bit of info I didn't write down everything.
A small correction for the burial of William Baker buried 21/8/1836 aged 74 he was born 1762 not 1752 and two Sarah Crouch burials one for 4/7/1836 age 35 and 20/7/1836 age 78, did you get William Merrick buried 9/6/1825 age 88 he was born to Joseph Merrick and Ann Bull.
I don't know why the burial of Ellen Baker does not work out with her christening?
Also I made a little mistake too on Ellen's death age as she would have been two not one as I stated in my last topic.
Regards Colin
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Hi
I have been following all your Ewhurst threads and wondered if any of you could help me. I am looking for the Cook(e) family of Ewhurst and especially the parents of a Thomas Cooke born C1825, who married Sarah A Edmunds in 1847. I visited the church last week and toured the graveyard but could only find 1 legiable Cooke gravestone. I met the vicar walking his dog and he said inside the church was a brown folder with the grave names and positions listed. There was no book to be found, and the vicar had gone.
Has anyone go a copy of the names of people listed in the graveyard, that I could refer to? Any help would be much appreciated.
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Hi
Unfortunately I can't help you with your request.
I also visited Ewhurst Green recently, and saw the church. Unfortunately we did not have time to cover the churchyard. That will have be another visit, on the next OE.
I am intreged to hear about this list the vicar has.
Perhaps a letter would be an idea.
Hopefully some tombstone transcription has been done. here's hoping.
Did the vicar indicate that there might be a plan somewhere?
There is a very nice little guidebook to the church.
Did you get one of them when you were there?
Cheers
BerylM
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do you have info. for the Crouch family?
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Yes, my ancestor was Mary Couch, have ancestors of her, and some other material.
What are you looking for?
BerylM
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i wasn't looking for info for Mary Crouch but i have info for Crouchs in my tree due to My Ancestor Mary Punnett marrying John Miller, then their daughter Elizabeth Miller marrying Nathanial Crouch, they settled in Brede
Best Wishes
Toni
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Hi Toni
Sounds interesting. Am happy to receive Crouch information.
When I was transcribing the Ewhurst register I transcribed alot of extra entries, as you never know who will actually turn out to be connected to your tree.
Also, I have an interest in Brede, as my 2 gt grandparents William & Maria Kennard were married there in 1834. They were "of this parish" at the time they married.
When were your family at Brede?
BerylM
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Elizabeth Miller was born 1752 Hooe child of John Miller and Mary Punnett & Nathanial Crouch was born Ninfield. child of Nathanial Crouch and Ann Pollard
I do not have the record of Elizabeth and Nathianal marriage however there first child Nathanial Crouch was born in 1782 in Brede
followed by:
Mary 1783
William 1784
Elizabeth 1788
John 1789
James 1791
Dorcas 1793
Stephen 1795
Paul 1799
Elizabeth Crouch nee Miller died in Brede in 1832
i have the descendants of Paul Crouch b.1799 Elizabeth Crouch b.1788
Paul 1799 stayed in Brede but Elizabeth 1788 moved to Kent.
let me know if you want more details
Best Wishes
Toni
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There does not appear to be a marriage for Elizabeth Miller to Nathaniel Crouch on the Sussex marriage index. I wonder where they married? There is one to Nathaniel Cramp in Hooe in 1782.
She married very late for those days if she was not having children until her 30s.
Andrea
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Hello
The only partial tombstone listing I know of is that of Colin Field in his book "[u] Leaves from a Genealogists Notebook". [/u] He would have noted down some of the earlier stones, as he has done in other parishes. It can be obtained from the Hastings & Rother F.H.S.
For Brede, I have M.J. Burchall's transcriptions from LDS.#1364151 and do not see all the Crouch births mentioned.
Bpt.Apr.11,88 Eliz. , dau. Nathaniel & Eliz.
Bpt. Dec.6,89 John, s/o Nath. & Eliz.
Bpt. Nov.13,91 James, s/o Nath. & Eliz.
Bpt. Aug.4, 93 Dorcas, Nath. & Eliz.
Bpt. May 31, 95 Stephen, Nath. & Eliz.
Bpt. June 9, 99 Paul, b. 9 May , Nath. & Eliz.
Hope this helps,
Legacy
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I have Thomas BaKER & Sarah Ellis (or Alice) Catt in my tree. They married at Northiam, Ssx in 1808. They had 6 children born at Ewhurst but there may have been a couple born in Northiam between 1808 & 1811.
I did research the Ewhurst parish registers on film at my local LDS. Also on the censuses Thomas says he was born at HAWKHURST, Kent. He died 1856 & Sarah died 1853.
My husband is descvended from their son THOMAS who married Eleanor CUTBUSH in 1839 @ Ewhurst & there emmigrated that year to NSW.
Jenny
Aus
Hi Beryl
There are two family trees having a Thomas Baker marrying a Sarah Ellis Catt 25/2/1808 Northian, one saying all the children were born in Northian and the other saying that some children were born there but then they moved to Ewhurst both agree that Thomas was the one that died 1856 Ewhurst But neither can prove by Church Records where Thomas Baker was actually born but give his birth as 1784 one saying he came from Kent the other not sure now.
Sarah Ellis Baker nee Catt did die in Ewhurst as Sarah Alice Baker but was this Thomas Baker 1856 her husband or Mary Crouch's?
It is so confusing and frustrating sometimes but we have to carry on and prove who is right.
Now I have probably frustrated you, sorry.
Colin
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Hi Toni
Sorry for the delay.
I have a couple of generations.
Mary Crouch bap 2 Nov 1713 Ewhurst.
- - I and several others are still trying to find out what became of her.
she was the child of
Thomas Crouch (bap 20 Apr 1760 Ticehurst)
bur 19 Jan 1837 Ewhurst.
married to Sarah Merricks
bap 1 Jan 1764 Ewhurst
bur 18 Oct 1820 Ewhurst
If you are searching that line, I have Merricks back 3 more generations in Ewhurst.
I think they then turn into Morroke, but I am having difficulty finding the connecting ancestor
back in the 17th cent.
There is a website re a George Swift and Mark Clarke, which lists these.
Do you have this? It leads back to Ticehurst.
I havent been there yet. I am currently researching in Salehurst.
BerylM
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Hi
I have found in the Parish Chest records of the "Overseers of the Poor of the Parrish of Ewhurst"
that in 1770 my ancestor William Baker was Examined and carried to Sailhurst [Salehurst] with an order, I presume to establish where he had a settlement.
From my researches it appears that William Baker was born in Ewhurst, bap. 17 May 1713.
His mother had been supported by the parish of Ewhurst for years because she was widowed.
His father Thomas Baker and his mother Jane (Rogers) - known as the widdow Baker, had come from Salehurst. I presume that is why he was being taken back there.
Were these examinations before a court, and would there be any records?.
If so, where would I find them?
Or, would this be in the Overseers settlement papers, or Overseers rates for Salehurst.
What sort of information do these give?. Do they include birth dates etc.
I am having problems with a birth date for his father, Thomas Baker
- there is a much quoted date: bap 24 May 1674 at Salehurst! (bur 20 Nov 1720 Ewhurst)
Unfortunately, the microfilm I have been searching has a gap in the register at this point.
At the bottom of the page is "April:74". then at the top of the next page is: "May 1675".
I am not sure where this date has come from!
Any suggestions
Cheers
BerylM
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Hi
Not necessarily a gap but might be the way the calendar worked then. If you google it you should get more information about how the old style calendar worked. It was not January to December.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar
Andrea
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Hi Andrea
Thanks.
The dates, plus the old writing, and the Latin make this era a challege!
We were discussing this up at the centre yesterday morning.
In this register then beginning of the year usually Jan & Feb continue with the dates of the previous year, and the dates seemed to change about March.
I have looked all around and can't seem to find this particular baptism.
Cheers
BerylM
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Hi there
Chesterfield’s Act of 1751
Decreed that 1752 would begin on 1st January
2nd September would be followed by 14th September.
11 September days missing !!
Bankers refused to have their year truncated.
Financial year was extended by 11 days to finish 5th April.
NO Chancellor since has dared to change it.
so therefore:-
1750 commenced 25 March 1750 – ended 24 March 1750/1
1751 commenced 25 March 1751 – ended 31 December 1751
1752 commenced 1 January 1752 – 31st December 1752
with 11 September Days Missing.
Chris in 1066
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Hi there Chris in 1066
These dates have all been a little baffling, it makes more sense now.
However, the Salehurst parish register is still has a problem. It has:
Jan 1673
Feb 1673
March 1673
March 1674
That was all very logical, but is followed by:
April 1674
May 1675
& continues ...
Where the rest of 1674 is, I have no idea!
Unfortunately, the baptism I am looking for was supposed to be May 1674.
I have looked backwards, and forwards, all to no avail!
... I guess these things happen.
Do you, or someone, happen to know the URL for the website that has archival information about Settlements cases? I am wondering if the mysterious baptismal date was quoted by Thomas Baker's son, William Baker at his Settlement hearing at Salehurst in May 1770.
Thank you very much for your assistance,
BerylM
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Hi Beryl
I am not working on this line in my tree as it is not my direct line but was just giving you the information as i had it.
Hi Andrea
i'm not sure where they married as i havent fully researched this line yet.
i am concentrating on my 'closer' family lines at the mo, hoping to get a chart printed off for christmas i visited the geneaolgyprinters website and thought it was very good and the prices reasonable.
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Hello
For a inventory / resume of the settlement certificates and other papers, see the A2A archives site. http://www.a2a.org.uk/
This inventory is based on the microfilm of the parish chest records, i.e.
film #1067152. This is for Ewhurst.
Many mentions of the Baker name.
Legacy
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Hi there i have Gutsell / Goodsell / Goodsall in my tree too.
would you like me to PM the details?
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Hi Berylm
Those dates look ok and are in order remembering that the year ended on 24th March and the new year began on 25th March.
Two possible solutions for no entries from April 1674 and May 1675
Possibly there were non - seems unlikely
or
Prior to 1754 many Registers are a Hotch Pot. Baptisms are interspersed with Marriages and Burials.
Very Often all 3 appear on same page.
Years covered on same page may be different.
Parchment was expensive – Ministers used very small writing – small spaces were covered with events several years later
Until 1733 some registers kept in Latin
Chris in 1066
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do you have info. for the Crouch family?
Hello,
I am descended from Nathaniel Crouch and Elizabeth Miller who lived in Brede and would be pleased to exchange information with any other descendants.
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Elizabeth Miller was born 1752 Hooe child of John Miller and Mary Punnett & Nathanial Crouch was born Ninfield. child of Nathanial Crouch and Ann Pollard
I do not have the record of Elizabeth and Nathianal marriage however there first child Nathanial Crouch was born in 1782 in Brede
followed by:
Mary 1783
William 1784
Elizabeth 1788
John 1789
James 1791
Dorcas 1793
Stephen 1795
Paul 1799
Elizabeth Crouch nee Miller died in Brede in 1832
i have the descendants of Paul Crouch b.1799 Elizabeth Crouch b.1788
Paul 1799 stayed in Brede but Elizabeth 1788 moved to Kent.
let me know if you want more details
Best Wishes
Toni
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Hi Toni,
You look as if we share a number of Crouch ancestors, could we compare notes?
Trevor
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Hi Trevor will PM you x
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Hello
Are you still out there !!!!
I thought that l might add my 2 pennys worth here.
I have a Mary BAKER who married a Thomas DAVIS on 11 May 1786 in Whatlington Sussex.
Thomas
Bapt = 25 June 1764 Mountfield Sussex
Died = 10 Oct. 1838 Sedlescombe Sussex
Mary
Bapt = ???
Died = 30 Jan 1847 Sedlescombe Sussex
Child
Benjamin
Bapt = 1 Nov 1789 Whatlington Sussex
Marr = 8 Dec 1811 Ewhurst Sussex
Died 20 May 1835 Ewhurst Sussex
He married
Hannah JARMAN (all her children were born n Ewhurst)
She married a second Time to a James CUCKNEY (after Benjamin died)
Hannah had a sister called Rachel
Rachel was married to a George BUGRGESS.
So - Hannah (and family by Benjamin and James), Rachel/ George and family came out to Australia on the "Palmyra" in 1838.
I read in post of CROUCH`s and GODSELL`s all in the greater family as well.
Are there possibly any connections !!!
Jamison
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Hello,
Yes I am still here !!
I have James Cuckney as well as many Crouch's on my tree and am happy to share any information yo might be interested in. James Cuckney/Cutney) was the brother of my great x 3 grandmother Hannah Cutney the daughter of Christopher Cuckney and Mary Monk. Hannah Cuckney married Samuel Monk in Northiam in 1816.
My great grandfather Henry Monk married Harriett Crouch at Brede in 1882. Harriett was the daughter of Stephen Crouch and Mary Ann Paine.
Cheers for now
Trevor
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Trevor did we macke contact re the Crouchs ?
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Hi Toni,
Yes I think we did.
Cheers
Trevor
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Hi Folks
Will contact you later - off on holiday !!!
Regards
Jamison
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hi.I have been researching descendants of Samuel Baker/Ann Goodsall & Alice Stiff nee Baker (daughter)since 1997.Have located over 3000 descendants.
My book " Botany Connection,BAKER,STIFF & PRICE Families" is now over 1500 pages.
Also done some work on Aaron. Would like to hear from you.
Have research at Lewes R.O. East SSX on three occasions.Not certain if this message will be received as this is my 1st.go.
regards. D.M.Lamb,NSW
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Hi DM Lamb
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
According to her profile, Beryl hasn't been online here since June 2013 but as long as her email address hasn't changed, she should receive email notifications that we have posted and hopefully come back soon.
Dawn
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Don't think anyone has mentioned that the East Sussex Record Office has moved to The Keep in Falmer near Brighton.