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Dear all,
I'm looking for the parents, wife and childern of Sclater, Philip Lutley (*4 November 1829 Tangier Park, Hampshire - † June 27, 1913 Odiham, Hampshire, England).
Could some-one help me?
Regards,
Justin jansen
The Netherlands
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There is Philip Lutley SELATER baptised 23 Mar 1830 Wootton St Lawrence to William and Anne Maria.
Other siblings:
Elizabeth Penelope SELATER 27 Sep 1831 Wootton St Lawrence
William SCLATER16 Jul 1833 Upton Grey
Dora Frances SCLATER 5 Oct 1835 Upton Grey
Katharine Anne SCLATER 9 Mar 1837 Upton Grey
Frederick Booth SCLATER 4 Oct 1838 Upton Grey
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Thanks very much!
Regards, Justin
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Hi Justin,
This looks like the family in 1851,
1851 HO107/1681 f.61 p.34 Hoddington, Hampshire
Haddington House?
William Lutely SCLATER Snr Head 61 Proprietor of land Middlesex Ashford
Ann Maria Wife 58 St Andrews Holborn
Philip Lutely Son 21 Scholar of C.C.C ? Oxford B.A Hants St Lawrence, Woolton
Elizabeth Penelope Daur 19 none " " " "
Dora Frances Daur 16 Scholar at home Hants Upton Gray
Katherine Ann Daur 14 " " " " " "
Frederick Booth Son 12 ??? " " " " Dumb
Living with a governess and lots of servants.
Regards
Daisy
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Thanks once again. Makes the picture more clear to me!
Now is the story to whom he was maried and what where his childern?
Best whishes,
Justin
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Hi again,
Marriage,
Philip Lutley SCLATER Dec Q 1862 St George Hanover Square, London v.1a p.422
other names on page,
Jane Ann Eliza Hunter BLAIR
Fanny Eyre WOOD
Walter Ewles LEGG
1871 RG10/104 f.27/28 p.2/3 St George Hanover Square
15 Lower Belgrave St
Philip L SCLATER Head 41 Barrister at Law in practice Hants St. Lawrence Wooton
Jane Ann E SCLATER Wife 35 Scotland
William L SCLATER Son 7 Scholar Middx St George
Bertram L SCLATER Son 5 Scholar Middx St George
Guy L SCLATER Son 2 Hants Upton Grey
So I think he married Miss BLAIR :)
Daisy
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There are several entries to the SCLATER family on the Hampshire CALM database:
http://calm.hants.gov.uk/DServeA/search.htm
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Thanks for this great info!
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It's worth googling SCLATER Tangier.
An interesting man.
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Prerogative Court of Canterbury will
Will of Penelope Lutley Sclater, Spinster of Worcester , Worcestershire 17 February 1843 PROB 11/1975
1841 census HO107 1209/5c folio 22 page 14
Tything of Whistons Claines Worcestershire
Penelope Sclater 85 Worcestershire Independent
William Sclater 50 not born Worcestershire Independent
From
http://thepeerage.com/p11671.htm#i116704
Richard Sclater was born in 1712. He is the son of Reverend Christopher Sclater and Elizabeth May. He married, secondly, Penelope Lutley, daughter of Philip Lutley and Penelope Barneby. He married, firstly, Magdalen Limbrey, daughter of John Limbrey.
Richard Sclater held the office of Alderman of London.
Will of Richard Sclater, Druggist, late one of the Alderman of the City of London of Christ Church , City of London 31 May 1754 PROB 11/808
Family 1 Magdalen Limbrey
Children Thomas Limbrey Sclater-Mathew d. 1809
Elizabeth Sclater d. 1814
Family 2 Penelope Lutley
Children Reverend Bartholomew Lutley Sclater+ d. 1804
Penelope Lutley Sclater d. 1844
Reverend Bartholomew Lutley Sclater was the son of Richard Sclater and Penelope Lutley. He married Elizabeth Rebecca Bristow, daughter of George Bristow. He died in 1804.
Reverend Bartholomew Lutley Sclater was a Fellow in Oriel College, Oxford University, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England. He graduated from Oxford University with the degree of Master of Arts (M.A.). He held the office of Rector of Whitlington, Northumberland.
Family Elizabeth Rebecca Bristow d. 1825
Child William Lutley Sclater+ b. 22 Jan 1789, d. 15 Dec 1885
William Lutley Sclater was born on 22 January 1789 He was the son of Reverend Bartholomew Lutley Sclater and Elizabeth Rebecca Bristow. He married Anna Maria Bowyer, daughter of William Bowyer and Dorothy Tomkyns, on 26 July 1821. He died on 15 December 1885 at age 96
William Lutley Sclater graduated with the degree of Master of Arts (M.A.). In 1814 he inherited the estate of Basing Byfleet, Hampshire, from his half-uncles. He held the office of Chairman of Magistrates, Basingstoke Division. He held the office of Justice of the Peace (J.P.). He lived in Hoddington House, Hampshire, England.
Family Anna Maria Bowyer b. before 1806, d. 1 April 1879
Children George Sclater-Booth, 1st Baron Basing of Basin Byflete and of Hoddington+ b. 19 May 1826, d. 22 Oct 1894
Philip Lutley Sclater+ b. 4 Nov 1829, d. 27 Jun 1913
Frederick Booth Sclater b. 22 Aug 1838, d. 9 Dec 1856
Philip Lutley Sclater was born on 4 November 1829. He was the son of William Lutley Sclater and Anna Maria Bowyer. He married Jane Anne Eliza Blair, daughter of Sir David Hunter Blair, 3rd Bt., on 16 October 1862. He died on 27 June 1913 at age 83.
Philip Lutley Sclater graduated with a Master of Arts (M.A.). He graduated with a Doctor of Science (D.Sc.). He graduated with a Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.). He was invested as a Fellow, Royal Society (F.R.S.). He was admitted to Lincoln's Inn entitled to practice as a Barrister-at-Law. He lived in Odiham Priory, Hampshire, England.
Family Jane Anne Eliza Blair d. 25 May 1915
Children Lilian Elizabeth Lutley Sclater+ d. 8 Apr 1957
William Lutley Sclater b. 23 Sep 1863, d. Jul 1944
Captain Bertram Lutley Sclater b. 22 Feb 1866, d. 24 Jul 1897
Captain Guy Lutley Sclater+ b. 15 Aug 1868, d. 26 Nov 1914
Arthur Lutley Sclater b. 24 Sep 1873, d. 2 May 1922
Regards
Valda
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I know this thread is years old, but I really need some help concerning the "other names on page" ...
Fanny Eyre Wood and Walter Ewles Legg.
Can someone please tell me exactly what this whole document is about and how I can obtain further information on Fanny and the Legg family?
Reason being ... I was contacted by an individual who obtained a bible from 1858 belonging to Fanny Eyre Wood ... presented by "cousin Parker". On a page of the bible, there is the name "S.C.E Legg". It is printed by Eyre and Spottiswoode of England.
Now, I am descended from both Wood and Eyre families (my paternal grandparents are James Eyre and Mildred Wood). Despite a fairly extensive Wood genealogy, there is no mention of another Eyre Wood connection of any variety.
Anyways, I found it too coincidental that the quoted posted mentioned both Fanny Eyre Wood AND a Legg ... and am hoping they are the same (or related to in regards to Legg) to the ones in the bible ... so I can do some further tracing.
Thanks in advance for any help someone can provide.
Hi again,
Marriage,
Philip Lutley SCLATER Dec Q 1862 St George Hanover Square, London v.1a p.422
other names on page,
Jane Ann Eliza Hunter BLAIR
Fanny Eyre WOOD
Walter Ewles LEGG
1871 RG10/104 f.27/28 p.2/3 St George Hanover Square
15 Lower Belgrave St
Philip L SCLATER Head 41 Barrister at Law in practice Hants St. Lawrence Wooton
Jane Ann E SCLATER Wife 35 Scotland
William L SCLATER Son 7 Scholar Middx St George
Bertram L SCLATER Son 5 Scholar Middx St George
Guy L SCLATER Son 2 Hants Upton Grey
So I think he married Miss BLAIR :)
Daisy
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Here are Walter & Fanny in the 1871 census living 41 Belgrave Road, Westminster
LEGG, Walter E Head M age 31 Paddington, Middlesex
LEGG, Fanny E Wife F age 35 Chelsea. Middlesex
LEGG, Fanny E Daughter F age 6 Westminster, Middlesex
LEGG, Rose A Daughter F age 5 Westminster, Middlesex
LEGG, Walter P Son M age 4 Westmister, Middlesex
LEGG, Edith L Daughter F age 3 Westminster, Middlesex
NICHOLLS, Elizth Servant F age 28 Norfolk
ATKINS, Sarah Servant F age 22 Cambridgeshire
IRE, Emma Servant F age 17 Kent
Do any of the names ring any bells?
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bearkat,
I perhaps should have done my Google search before posting last night. It seems S.C.E Legg was a writer of an Old Testament "article" in the 1830s (??? - I am not knowledgeable about the various tidbits like these.) However, it does seem odd that his name is penciled in. *shrugs*
But, let's assume that the Legg family is truly connected with Fanny Eyre Wood ...
If the family you found is the same Fanny - what happened to the "Wood" part of her name? Was that her maiden name? Based on what you found, in 1858, Fanny would have been 22 ... perhaps still unmarried. "Eyre" Would have been an unusual middle name for a female. Hence why I thought that was her maiden name and Wood was her married name.
Blech - I guess I don't have enough to go on. According to the person who has the bible, there isn't anything else written in the bible to go on (place, family members, etc - any of the typical things you find in a family bible).
I was so hoping that a Fanny Eyre Wood and a cousin Parker would just jump out and bite us in the _____ :D Naturally, it isn't all THAT easy!
Thanks so much for trying. I will definitely keep the information you found and see if it ends up being a piece of the puzzle.
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It looks as though the bible is dated 1858 - four years before her marriage. In 1858 she would have been known by her maiden name, from 1862 she would have been known by her married name of LEGG.
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I think the evidence is too coincidental for this to not be the same Fanny that is in the bible. I'll keep digging, but until I final contradictory evidence, I'll assume that this is the same person.
Thank you SO much for your assistance. I truly appreciate you taking the time.
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Hi,
This looks like Fanny's christening,
Fanny Eyre WOOD
16 Mar 1837, Dorking Surrey
Parents: Thomas Christopher and Ann WOOD
Abode: High Street
Occupation: Surgeon
I think her parent's marriage might explain the cousin PARKER,
Thomas Christopher WOOD
Ann PARKER
16 Nov 1833
oddly there is no place listed ???
So if Ann had a brother one of his children would be cousin PARKER.
Googling it seems S.C.E LEGG was Stanley Charles Edmund LEGG b.1872 and that he was writing articles in the 1930s and1940s.
http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-no2002-52856
I think he was Fanny's son,
Birth
Stanley Charles E LEGG Jun Q 1872 St George Hanover Square 1a 345
1881 RG11/106 f.51 p.28 St George Hannover Square
120 Grosvenor Road
Walter E LEGG Head 41 Copper Merchant Smith Middlessex Paddington
Fanny E " Wife 44 " Chelsea
Trudy E " Daur 16 Scholar " Pimlico
Rose A " Daur 15 " " "
Walter J " Son 14 " " "
Edith L " Daur 13 " " "
Stanley C. E. " Son 8 " " "
Jane COFFIN Servant 27 General Domestic Servant Dorsetshire Stourpaine
Maria INCHCOMBE Servant 22 Housemaid " " ?Kent Bridger?
Regards,
Daisy
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Daisy -
You're a Saint! ;D
What beautiful information.
I never could find via Google what Legg's initials stood for ... and you did AND correlated them with Fannie. What a find!
Thank you SO SO very much!
Thank you for everyone's help. I can't believe a random mention of someone that was on the same page as the persons this thread was focused on would be the someone I was looking for ... you just NEVER know!
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I'm very glad to have helped :)
Daisy
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I've come across several males with the first or middle name Eyre (those researching EYRE know of several prominent ones) ... but to have a female with that middle name is something I haven't seen before.
I was hoping her Mom's maiden name was Eyre, but it's Parker as you found, Daisy.
I don't have an England map handy - is Surrey anywhere near Derbyshire or Wiltshire? Those are the 2 main places EYRE is prominent. Perhaps Thomas Wood's mom was an Eyre?
I'm not sure where you have been obtaining your information, so I do not know if records go back that far. ???
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Hi,
I found Fanny's christening in the 'London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906' at Ancestry and her parent's marriage at findmypast record source: 'Faculty Office Marriage Licence Allegations 1701-1850'.
Genuki is a good site to find places,
http://www.genuki.org.uk/
and here is a map for you,
http://www.picturesofengland.com/mapofengland/counties-map.html
I'm having difficulty finding out about Thomas Christopher WOOD, this could be his death,
Thomas Christopher WOOD JunQ 1880 Lambeth 1d 294
Age: 77
Working backwards,
'The Medical Register' published 1863
Date of Registration: 01 Jan 1859
WOOD Thomas Christopher, Bayswater London W
Lic. Soc. Apoth. Lond. 1833
Mem. R. Coll. Surg. Eng. 1840
M.D. Univ. K. Coll. Aberd. 1846
transcribed from the image. I think these links might be of interest,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worshipful_Society_of_Apothecaries
http://www.archive.org/stream/officersgraduate00univuoft/officersgraduate00univuoft_djvu.txt
1851 Post Office Directory
WOOD Thomas Christopher, surgeon, High Street
Penge, Surrey
I can't find him on a census or find his birth :(
Regards,
Daisy