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Title: Finding birth details between 1800 and 1837
Post by: goodlife on Thursday 08 June 06 15:26 BST (UK)
 ???Can anyone help me or guide me with finding birth details of ancestor:
Possibly in the Derby St Peters or St Alkmunds area.

John Walker  b. around 1834 m. 1854 to Ann Tunaley.
(father Joseph Walker Occupation Miner)

Thanks
Title: Re: Finding birth details between 1800 and 1837
Post by: Jan Ann on Thursday 08 June 06 15:39 BST (UK)
Hi Good Life

There is a christening on the IGI for a John Walker Christening:  29 JUN 1834   Breedon On The Hill, Leicester, England which is close to the Derby border, father Joseph Walker Mother Elizabeth

Hope this helps
Cheers
Jan
 
Title: Re: Finding birth details between 1800 and 1837
Post by: goodlife on Thursday 08 June 06 15:44 BST (UK)
Thanks Jan

I forgot to add that John Walker is listed in Census being born in Ripley Derbyshire.

Is Ripley near there?

Kev
Title: Re: Finding birth details between 1800 and 1837
Post by: Jan Ann on Thursday 08 June 06 16:10 BST (UK)
Hi

Its about 33 miles away by road -  about 25 miles as the crow flies

Not that far but far enough in those days!

Cheers
Jan
Title: Re: Finding birth details between 1800 and 1837
Post by: Jan Ann on Thursday 08 June 06 16:21 BST (UK)
Hi goodlife ;)

How about this one Christening:  07 JUN 1835   Mellor, Derby, England  son of Joseph and Ruth Walker

Cant tell you where Mellor is in relation to Ripley though - maybe other rootschatters can help ???

Cheers
Jan :D
 
Title: Re: Finding birth details between 1800 and 1837
Post by: Tuppie on Thursday 08 June 06 20:14 BST (UK)
Hi.

You would need to access the parish registers.

Mellor is in the High Peak a long way from Ripley...

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Breedon on the Hill
Its about 33 miles away by road -  about 25 miles as the crow flies

It is doubtful that Breedon on the Hill is his place of baptism...as in the period you are looking at  the concept of 'settlement' arose. Anyone 'settled' in a parish had a right to relief from it, and others did not. So it was important that they were baptised in their place of birth.

Ripley was originally a township in the parish of Pentrich. Ripley All Saints was built in 1820 and the chapelry assigned 1821. It became a seperate parish in 1855.
Regards
Tuppie
Title: Re: Finding birth details between 1800 and 1837
Post by: redshank on Thursday 08 June 06 21:19 BST (UK)
Two thoughts which may be complete red herrings.

For a first birth especially, the girl sometimes went home to mother and the baptism would be in the wife's home parish even though they lived elsewhere - could that be the case with John and either Mellor or Breedon on the Hill was where his mum came from?

Second thought - do you know if the family were Methodists - I see there are several baptisms of Walkers in the Ripley Wesleyan Methodist Circuit listed on the IGI. Can't see your John son of Joseph, but there are other children to a Joseph and Mary from 1842 - perhaps John was baptised earlier than the IGI records as it seems only to include records from 1838 onwards.

May be no help, but...

Regards,
redshank

Title: Re: Finding birth details between 1800 and 1837
Post by: Tuppie on Thursday 08 June 06 22:22 BST (UK)
Hi.

I don't know if you have this but there is only one Joseph WALKER in Ripley in 1841 with a son John.

HO107/190/2 folio 69

Ripley.
Joseph WALKER aged 40 Coal Miner. "Y"
Mary WALKER aged 35 "Y"
Elizabeth WALKER 12 "Y"
Fanny WALKER 10 "Y"
John WALKER 7 "Y"
Joseph WALKER 3 "Y"
Mary WALKER 3 "Y"
Twins if the ages are correct...!!!

"Y" = Yes to the question if born in County. All ages for adults over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5 or 0.
Regards
Tuppie
Title: Re: Finding birth details between 1800 and 1837
Post by: Alex Walker on Sunday 02 July 06 15:42 BST (UK)
Hi

John Walker and Ann Tunaley are my husband's gg grandparents.  Please make contact if you would like any info.

John Walker's parents were Joseph Walker & Mary Thornhill.

Cheers

Alex