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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: esse on Wednesday 07 June 06 19:32 BST (UK)
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I've been trying to trace my 2xgreat grandfather Edward NEVILLE, born 1847-1850, and who I've only been able to trace so far via 1871-91 censuses in England. The census details vary, but a clear picture emerges of his birth in Dublin, a migration to Liverpool to work initially as a boot boy in Sandfield Park in Liverpool (I think a posh house), and later a marriage to Francis MILNER from Hanley, Staffordshire, where they moved to. His later occupations were Coachman and then Tailor.
Today I've confirmed via a marriage certificate that his father was Thomas NEVILLE, who he reports was also a Coachman. I can find no record of Edward in English/Welsh censuses in 1861 and before, so can only assume he moved to Liverpool after this date, in his teens.
Can anyone help me locate a good fit for a marriage, birth or trade record etc. for his father Thomas Neville? Intriguingly, the LDS site locates only one good fit for a marriage of a Thomas Neville in Ireland in the 10 years around his death, and it's in Dublin - a Thomas Neville from Kilkenny who married Isabella Anne TUTHILL on 15 Oct 1846 Rathfranham, Dublin, just before Edward's birthdate. They both have illustrious ancestors, Thomas a direct line back from the Nevilles in England back to the Earl of Warwick and beyond, and Isabella herself born in Rathgar Mansion, Dublin. I've only just started Irish research and don't know Dublin well, but it doesn't sound like the kind of marriage that would include a Coachman... or does it?
The only record so far of a child to this marriage is from the IGI, and is a daughter Ann.
I'm well aware of how skeptically I should view "near hit" IGI/Ancestry records, so much as I'd like to go on a flight of fancy about this being my Thomas Neville, I don't think I can yet. Although, interestingly, in his final census before death, Edward changes his mind and says he was born in Liverpool rather than Dublin (possibly as a result of fears of racism?), so it's quite possible he was being creative with his father's profession too, naming it as his own, for his own reasons...
I should add that I'm still working my way through possible resources, but can only research online due to illness, dearly as I'd love to visit Dublin to search locally. Any nudges, hints, suggestions or anything appreciated!
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marriage pos connection
Ellen Neville age 18 years to
Dennis Kelly age 22 years
a civil marriage on 24/1/1848 no Place stated
W/F Thomas Neville
H/F John Kelly