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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: leaf on Wednesday 31 May 06 23:39 BST (UK)
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Hello all, If anyone can help with this it will make the world of difference to us.
I'm looking for my great grandfather George Hindhaugh. He lived at Chester-le-Street at some point. (I'll post in the Durham board too)
He died in the 1950's whilst staying with his daughter Christina (Chrissie, married name not known yet) in Isleworth. ( I'd better put something in the London board too!) Chrissie had 2 children.
George married Ellen and they had 3 children:-
William b. 1906
Robert b. 1908
Christina b. 1911
I also know George worked as a coal hewer.
Research so far says he is not:
George William Hindhaugh b. 1876 in Coal burn, Durham or
George Edward Hindhaugh b. 1881 Burnopfield, Durham
Any help on this will be greatly appreciated :)
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You could get Christina's birth certificate. That would give Ellen's maiden name and make it easy to find the marriage and distinguish between the different George's. The marriage would then give the father's name and you could find them in the census and work your way backwards.
Christina Hindhaugh 1911 June q Chester le St. 10a 630
Janis
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Thank you Janis,
We'll look into that and get back to you. :)
Hopefully it will turn out well.
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Hi Leaf,
You could search for his death on the complete indexes.
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8966&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0
It would tell you his age at death and whether he had a 2nd initial.
Tanja :)
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Hi again,
I have checked deaths between 1951 and 1959 and the likeliest match I could see was this (you'd better have a 2nd look, of course)
March quarter 1954
Hindhaugh John G
age 67
Middlesex S 5f 1
Could he have been John George?
The 1901 census has a John George Hindhaugh at Gatesheed, birthplace Northumberland South (?)comb age 14, Colliery labourer.
(In case you think it's them, they are at RG12/4243 124 31 in 1891)
Tanja :)
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Hm. Not too sure anymore.
I can see a John George Hindaugh marrying at Gateshead in December quarter 1905 (right time) but none of the possible spouses is called Ellen :-\
There's Margaret Kennedy or Mary Ann Sharkey
But then again, I can't see a George Hinhaugh marriage to an Ellen either! :P
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Have you checked out the following Georges?
from the 1901
George O. 36 b 1885 Alnwick, NBL
residence Long Houghton
living with
Addison 36 b 1865 Long Longhton (!)
George 34 b 1867 Norfd (!) Berwick
residence Middlesborough living with
Anne 32 b 1869 Norfd (!) Berwick
They may have been widowed and remarried? (Clutching at straws!)
Jan
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Thank you everyone for your help so far. We're working on the birth certificate link to get Ellen's maiden name. The two George's suggested by Jan, neither of those is the one we're looking for. I'm sure we'll find him eventually. Once again thanks for the help, much appreciated. :)
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Hi
I have a George Hindhaugh b 1868 in Tanfield. His parents were William Hindhaugh b 1838 in Long Horsley/Rothbury Northumberland and Elizabeth Carr b 1845 in Tweedmouth Northumberland. On the 1891 census he is listed as Hendhaugh still living in Tanfield with Mam and Dad and is shown as a Theological Student. His Grandfather was called Robert so that might tie in with the childrens names.
Cant find him anywhere on the 1901 census and searched for George 1868 +/-2 keyword Durham
John
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John
This looks like him:
Rev G Hindhaugh 33 b Tanfield Clergyman Church of England Chester
with
Lois Hindhaugh 29 b Driffield Yorks
Wm L S Hindhaugh 3 b Chester
Sorry I only have decoder not access to image.
Jan
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Jan,
thanks a lot, stupid me never thought to just check Hindhaugh. I have subscription to Ancestry so I can get the image.
John
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Sometimes it pays to have a devious mind! ;D
Jan
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Thanks John and Jan for your efforts it is appreciated :)
Looks like another George that's not ours though. Hopefully the birth certificate will be a breakthrough for us. I'll keep you posted!
Many thanks,
leaf
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Hello everyone,
Here's the update as promised.
From the birth certificate we have got, George Hindhaugh as the father and Mary Ellen Sharkey as the mother.
My great grandfather is still not George Edward Hindhaugh b. 1881 Burnopfield, Durham.
He could be George William Hindhaugh b. 1876 in Coal burn, Durham I can't find marriage details to tie this up though.
Mary Ellen Sharkey was born in Low Fell, Durham in 1886.
If anyone can tie anything up It will be graetly appreciated.
Leaf
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Hi,
Don't you think it could be the John George - Mary Ann Sharkey marriage after all then?
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Hi Tanja,
There seems to be quite a few Mary Ann and Mary Ellen Sharkeys in the area ::)
She was definately called Ellen, as people remember that. Hence the initial confusion, So I think that it would have to be a wrongly recorded name for that to be her? On the birth Certificate it just has George. It could possibly be them, but I have a few others to rule out first.
I have found a Mary Ellen Sharkey married Apr quarter 1904 Newcastle L (ref 6b 142) but can't find a husband for her yet!
Thanks for everything so far.
Leaf
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I have found a Mary Ellen Sharkey married Apr quarter 1904 Newcastle L (ref 6b 142) but can't find a husband for her yet!
Either Arthur Thomas Birks or Stephen Darcy :-\
(the marriage is on Staffordshire BMD)
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Wow that was quick!
Thanks that's another one ruled out.
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Just to complicate things............
Mary E Sharkey married John W Gardner, Durham Western, 1910.
Jennifer
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Hmmmm :-\
Well It makes it more rewarding after a difficult search!
I'm sure I'll get the right people eventually.
Thank you, leaf
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Hi everyone,
I'm back after more hunting around! I don't seem to be as good as you are at finding spouses though. How do you manage to do it so quickly?
I've got a marriage reference for George William Hindhaugh (the one mentioned in my very first post but ruled out as then I thought his wife was Ellen which the GRO said wasn't, and could be a hopeful candidate with a son William?) he was married Jan - Mar 1903 Gateshead, Durham, Tyne & Wear Vol. 10a Pg 613
I've tried to find his wife, but I'm still fairly new to this and haven't been able to. I know I could get the GRO to check but it gets costly especially when they turn out to be wrong :(
Any help or advice will be appreciated, thank you. leaf
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Well, I can only tell you the 2 possible spouses:
Jane Hindmarsh or Mary McWilliams
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Thank you Tanja, again I'm really impressed with your speed.
So that leaves John George and Mary Ann as the only Hindhaugh/Sharkey marriage. I think the way forward now would eb to get John George's death certificate and see if it was registered by Chrissie.
Unless anyone has a better idea?
Thank you. leaf
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Nothing to be impressed with, really ;D
The only thing to do is search FreeBMD and click on the page number ;)
I think it's a good idea to get the death cert if finances allow.
A second possibility would be to contact the register office for the Sharkey/Hindhaugh marriage. If you are positive that Mary Ellen is the one born Low Fell, then you could ask them to check (not sure how helpful they are?) whether her father is William on the marriage cert. (Wouldn't prove much if it is, but would disprove the marriage if it isn't).
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Ask nicely on the Durham board for a parish register lookup? As you know the year, it shouldn't be too difficult....
Jan
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Hi All,
After much doubt checking and rechecking and ordering of certificates the Mary Ann Sharkey John George Hindhaugh marriage was the correct one! It must have been misrecorded as she was a Mary Ellen known as Ellen as her mothers name was also Mary.
Thank you also Tati for finding the family in 1891, I haven't got any census subscriptions at the moment, hopefully I'll get one as a Christmas present so I'll look that reference up then.
Thank you all so much for your help,
leaf