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Title: Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: Olivia E. on Sunday 08 February 04 06:55 GMT (UK)
I was wondering how other people organised their geneology program files ...  in one big file or do you generally have a separate file for each side of your family. I have done both, but it is getting complicated as I sometimes don't enter all the info. about a particular person in both. Arrrrgh! I suppose I should try to find out if I can merge the smaller file into the big "Mother" file. The big file takes so much time to update now though. Help!  What do you folk do. I'm not new to geneology, but I just didn't start off as organised as I should have.
Title: Re:Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: Coriolana on Sunday 08 February 04 07:39 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I just have mine in one file.  It's probably not as big as your file though.  I have about 2900 people so far.  But I understand what you mean about not being organised when you started.  I was the same.  Now I feel I have to backtrack and tidy up!

Best of luck

Carol in OZ
Title: Re:Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: Fitty on Sunday 08 February 04 08:52 GMT (UK)
I have all mine in one file too.  It's not all the data on the computer i have a problem with.....it's all the stuff on my desk.  Post-it notes now decorate the wall and all around the monitor.  I have 2 expanding files one i keep all the Certificates in and other is "ongoing" research.  

It still does'nt stop my desk looking like a jumble sale tho.  ::)
Title: Re:Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: JDG on Sunday 08 February 04 10:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Olivia,
Because so many of my genealogical lines overlap I keep everything in one computer program called Main File and I have paper version to mirror that.

Then I have files for each surname, and a very large pile of papers and post it notes that need to be processed. The files for each surname contain other data that might not connect to my specific line, if and when it does it is moved to the main file.

For name and place specific data, such as my one name study and one place study the material is in Excel and on paper.

My filing may be very behind, but I have always kept a research log and this is upto date, showing where I have researched and where I need to research next.
Title: Re:Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: Coriolana on Sunday 08 February 04 10:32 GMT (UK)
Aside from my computer file.  I have 4 folders (quite full now) - one for each of my grandparents and labelled with their surname.  

I have each folder colour coded with a red, yellow, green or blue sticker.  Everything in the folder has a colour sticker on it.  So if anything is removed I can tell what folder it came from.

Everything on paper is put in this folder under the parents surnames for each family group ie SMITH/JONES, JONES/BROWN etc.

I still have a box of information I have to sort, but it's a start.  It was just getting too difficult to manage.  You just have to find what works for you.

regards

Carol
Title: Re:Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: Welsh Jen on Sunday 08 February 04 10:46 GMT (UK)
I keep all mine updated in one database, and every now and then when I get a surge of information to add into it, I then burn/copy the database onto a cd rom and date it,  therefore if something happens to my PC I dont loose everything. I don't find that I have problems with CD's and their deterioation due to me updating them so regularly. I also have one of my older files which I try to update regularly on my children's PC ~ as a precaution!.

Apart from the electronic side of things I also have a filing system for different Surname interests and some for areas, and one file put in alphabetical order for genealogy contacts which I have found online and ones which I have corresponded with.

This seems to keep me uptodate and in order.

Jen :)

Title: Re:Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Sunday 08 February 04 11:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Olivia E

Mine is kept in one large file on the computer in a genealogical programme 'Generations' (It used to be called 'Reunion') and I work on that particular file as and when.
I sometimes export a particular branch of the family to work on - and then merge it back with the main file.
A paper copy is a must - with all personal files being filed in 8 large folders. (my desk top is then free of notes, etc.)
A back up copy of everything is kept on a spare portable hard drive - the best media for storing information as we are reliably informed that cd's tend to deterioate over time - and maybe some of that important data will be lost.

Hope that helps

Chris in 1066Land (Hastings)  
Title: Re:Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: Fitty on Sunday 08 February 04 11:56 GMT (UK)
Can someone come round to my house and organise me properly?  ;D
Title: Re: Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: genjunction on Tuesday 15 March 05 23:02 GMT (UK)
I keep all my bunch in the same database, along with all the other people that could be mine but not yet confirmed.

It seems to make sense that way for searching and deciding which one of  the 150 John Riach's  is the one that fathered **** Riach - see my problem.  If I had more than one file name this would be made even harder, as it is I just add them into the tree or match/merge them - easy peasey

What I do have though, is a seperate file for people that have sent me their trees.  I add to my file the bits that I need and keep the original safe.

I use PAF, being a Yorkshire lass with 50% Scot - not a chance of paying is there ??  But saying that, I do use FTM to do a Genealogy Report that can be sent by email, PAF won't let you do that (its only downfall, that I have found yet!!)

Since I started using a computer for my family tree (about 18 years ago) my paper trail has got small in one respect - I now no longer use a card db, but the amount of paper that I generate by hard copying emails, downloading wills etc is just ridiculous.  Then there are the photocopies of things to be transcribed and either put on my website or made into pdf files, put on cd's and made available for sale.

So don't let anyone say that a pc reduces the paper trail, it dosn't, as you print things off when you find them - the website may not be there next week or it may be made pay per view !!

It looks like we are all for one (db) and one for family history - didn't someone say something similar to that in a book or was it a film ?

Happy hunting     :)

Carol
www.wakefieldfhs.org.uk
Wakefield Family History Sharing
Title: Re: Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: JAP on Wednesday 16 March 05 02:44 GMT (UK)
Olivia E,

In my view, keeping information about the same person in two different, overlapping, computer files is a recipe for disaster!  However hard you try, you will update one but not the other, or will enter information differently in each, etc.

I put everything into the one big computer file (some 10,000 people now) including the couple of amateur one-name studies I'm doing.  I use TMG (The Master Genealogist).

But my papers trails are in different family etc folders ..

Good luck,

Judy 
Title: Re: Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: suttontrust on Wednesday 16 March 05 15:43 GMT (UK)
My problem is the expanding file of "not directly relevant but might come in useful sometime" material.
Title: Re: Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: Kennington on Wednesday 16 March 05 21:26 GMT (UK)
My problem is that I bought Rootsmagic and loaded it at home  and at work, as I research on both computers. Now I have to keep both of them up to date.

I agree on keeping paper copies of everything though, and I need to go out and buy another wide binder this week.

also, I have used the back of a roll of wallpaper to write up one history. Can anyone suggest anything better ?

Mary
Title: Re: Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: familysearcher on Wednesday 16 March 05 22:36 GMT (UK)
My problem is that I bought Rootsmagic and loaded it at home  and at work, as I research on both computers. Now I have to keep both of them up to date.

I agree on keeping paper copies of everything though, and I need to go out and buy another wide binder this week.

also, I have used the back of a roll of wallpaper to write up one history. Can anyone suggest anything better ?

Mary

why not try wallpaper lining paper instead of wallpaper itself - we used to use this to paint on as kids and it worked really well.
Title: Re: Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: Kennington on Thursday 17 March 05 07:28 GMT (UK)
Thanks familysearcher,

will try that.

Mary
Title: Re: Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: genjunction on Sunday 08 January 06 22:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Mary,

regarding you running two computers with your family tree on.

I've the normal pc and a laptop that I take to my cousins and share info.

I find it quite simple to keep them both up to date - I do a gedcom each time I update info.  Keeping the main gedcom on the pc and copying that  to a floppy or 'stick' to put on the laptop and then visa versa.  Gedcom from the laptop and save on disc or 'stick'.

Easy when you've done it a couple of times.

I've just been doing my cousins husbands line and had one programme open with 3 databases open at the same time and today must have done more gedcoms and backups  than enough just to make sure that when I imported/ copied/ or included info, I still had a true family tree.

Woh  betied anyone that interupts when this is happening - but who said doing your family tree was easy and it certainly is not boring.

You probably do this anyway, but just incase

regards

Carol
Title: Re: Naming files in Genealogy Programs
Post by: JAP on Monday 09 January 06 01:50 GMT (UK)
I too have my genealogy program - The Master Genealogist (tm) - on the desktop and the laptop.

To avoid possible errors I find it works best to do data entry just on the one computer - but that's up to the individual to decide.

One great thing about TMG (tm) is that one doesn't have to cope with the limitations of GEDCOMs.  I just 'backup' the current version on the data entry computer then 'refresh' the version on the other computer from that backup (either via the ethernet connexion, or using floppies/CD).  With TMG (tm) ALL the information is transferred across.

JAP     

Title: Re: Naming files in Geneology Programs
Post by: Burrow Digger on Monday 09 January 06 13:14 GMT (UK)
I have 3 separate databases.  One for my mothers STEPHENS family - which is mostly in Cornwall, one for my fathers  BURROW family in Devon, and the third for my fathers Scottish line.

And of course a folder file for all the certificates and other documents. :) 

If I find out that my mothers paternal line is actually from Ireland (according to the rumours), that will be a 4th database. :)

BD