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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: Sherwood on Monday 29 May 06 23:49 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I think this says 'Hennery Beward' but if so, I can't find him in any other Censuses, even with variants on the name. Any ideas?
Sherwood.
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The Hennery could appear somewhere else as Henry, Harry, Hy or just as the initial H, or any of these as a second christian name rather than a firstname. The surname is difficult to see from just the one line you have put in. I think you are right with the first letter B and the last couple ..ard or ..and. I'd also try things like Burnand.
Something else that might give you clues to find him on another census is either to look for the same address, or to see who else is in the same household. What relationship is he to the head of household? Is this a small village? Are there many people of the same occupation? Is it possible for you to give us an image of the original of the whole household? If you have a few more clues it does open up possibilities for searching just that little bit more.
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Corinne,
I've tried some of the tactics you suggest to no avail yet.
Here is a bigger extract. He was one of two lodgers with a Hemsley family.
The address was just Daybrook. All persons including the two lodgers
were born in Arnold. John, Mary and the two lodgers were all
Framework Knitters (FWK).
Hennery wasn't with the Hemsley family on 1841 or 1861 Censuses.
Sherwood.
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Hi Sherwood,
This is a hard one! It certainly looks like BEWARD. I don't have access to censuses but, if that's what it is, it seems to be a very uncommon name. In the IGI, British Isles, exact spelling on, there are only 3 entries for BEWARD and one for BEEWARD. On FreeBMD there are 2 entries for BEWARD and one for BEEWARD. Just a thought (I don't know what a Nottinghamshire accent is like) but might it be BEARD?
JAP
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Hi Sherwood
I have spent hours on this one and still not cracked it. I looked on the 1841 for Daybrook but to look through all of Arnold would take forever. I work in Arnold so I can't escape it in the day either! I have searched the NFHS CDs for BMDs for Daybrook and Arnold to get a flavour of the names and also various combinations for all of Nottm e.g. ber*,bar*, bew*, etc. I did wonder if the d was in the middle of the word but then decided it is at the end.
Other ideas: Archives have printed indexes of census - look through the Bs
Look through Arnold and Daybrook baptisms for 1828 - 1835
Look at the non-conformist marriages for 1845-1860s if they have then for these dates.
" " birth records (not necessarily baptisms) 1828 - 1835
Non-conformist member lists
Show the census 1851 to the archives staff as they can decipher really well.
FWKs are notorious for being non-conformist. If you find birth records they can be alot better than CofE.
I assume you can get to the archives, if not get in touch. Also when you find the answer let us know.
Jane
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The "W" could possibly be "U"-look at how the u is written on same page in "dau"
The "d" at the end isn't written in the same way as any other "D" on the page???
Sorry no suggestions as to what the name may be?????
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Just a thought on this from another Arnold resident.
IGI shows only a few Henry B__ born in Arnold (found them via http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm)
One possible candidate is Henry Bryan, Bap Arnold, 20 May 1832. He's shown in the 1861 census at Donny Mount (?) lodging with William Cliff as a FWK. I can't see him in the 1851 census.
<edit>No, sorry. Just found him in the 1851 census as Henry Bryon, so not the one you're looking for.
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How about Henry Bernard? I found this one in Birmingham in 1881, born Nottm, Notts. I can't find him or any of his family before or after though!
There are also some unusual second names there (Montague and Vernon) and no 'ditto' for surname (ditto had been used higher up on the same page).
Never mind, I'm off hunting other more interesting avenues now.
Sherwood.
Census extract is Crown Copyright from nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Looks like Henry Bernard was Bernard Henry Clarke in 1871???
RG10/3531
Spaniel Row 25 Friar Lane Nottingham
Bernard henry Clarke Head M 38 Ulawa(?) beer manufacturer Nottingham
Elizabeth Ann wife 36 Nottingham
Richard Montague 5 Brooklyn Long Island America
Florence Eleanor 2 mth Nottingham
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Looks like Henry Bernard was Bernard Henry Clarke in 1871???
There is a Hennery Clark aged 8 in Arnold in 1841 (a "Henry" on the facing page is spelt the traditional way). HO107/855/5 folio 9 page 5.
Probably a red herring, but you never know!
Anna
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1851 Nottingham St Peters there is Bernard H Clarke with parents Isaiah Clarke (Surgeon Dentist) and Charlotte, siblings Edan and Samuel
1861 Henry head of house with Mother Charlotte and a brother and sister.
So it looks like Henry Bernard is not your man !!!
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Thank you to Suzard and AVM228 for that extra ferreting. I think I'm going to let go of this one for now; he isn't critical to my research and so I wouldn't wish any of you kind people to spend more valuable time chasing him.
Sherwood.