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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Montgomeryshire => Wales => Montgomeryshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: sianb on Monday 29 May 06 12:35 BST (UK)
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Is there anyone who has access to any records connected to Llanfyllin?
I'm trying to trace a family surname BRYAN.
My ancestor JOHN BRYAN records in his diary that he was born in Llanfyllin in 1776, however years of family searching the records has turned up nothing.
His parents were JOHN BRYAN and FRANCES SIMS. (we have a marriage bond reference for them, but no marriage record found)
Thanks
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The National Library of Wales holds all the parish registers. It might be worth you contacting them to see if anyone can help, or if you are able to get to Aberystwyth you could always check for yourself ;) ;)
http://www.llgc.org.uk/index.htm
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Thanks for your reply Jan.
I shall have to wait a while to go down as I live a long way from Aberystwyth - I shall add it to my list of things to research when i can get there.
Thanks
Siān
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Your welcome :D
I need to go to the NLW as well, but it's just one of those things I keep putting off ;D
Jan
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I've got some early Llanfyllin records on my other computer, I'll see if I can find anything :)
I also need to go to Aberystwyth but it's not all that accessible from here :(
Gadget
Looked and can't find anything on them and these records were collected from the parish registers and BTs of Llanfyllin. Sorry
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Thanks for looking Gadget. My parents went to NLW about 10 years ago and couldn't find anything - but I think they were looking in the wrong years.
I'm now assuming they must have married somewhere else. I know John Bryan senior was a staunch churchman (from John Bryan juniors diary) - so I expect they were married in church rather than chapel.
So I suppose it's down to a search of all the surrounding parishes!!!!!!!!!!! :( oh joys - may have to wait until I'm retired!! :)
Siān
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I see you said church rather than chapel however I read that a 'Mr Bryan' was one of the first Welsh Wesleyan Methodists to visit Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant (about 5 miles from Llanfyllin) on 29 August 1801. He visited again in 1804 with a Mr W. Jones preaching in the open air "his rostrum being the horse-block of the Plough Inn". Source: Montgomeryshire records, Parish of Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant Memorial Inscriptions.
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Dear JGDavies, Thanks for your response. I had forgotten about this request on the forum (from 2006) and I have found more information since then. The John Bryan you are referring to is the one baptised in Llanfyllin church on 15/11/1775. Later in life he became a Weslyan Methodist preacher and travelled the length and breadth of Wales preaching to the people in their own language - Welsh. I hadn't discovered those memorial descriptions, so I'll have a look - thankyou, although I have another reference to the preaching in Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant in his diaries and in a book 'John Bryan a'i amserau'.
I made a little progress with the marriage of his parents and have found them marrying in Llanfyllin 28/12/1774. I am now trying to find their birth records and have had no joy. Again thank you for your response.
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You're welcome, although from rereading my post and your reply I now have visions of you wandering around Llanrheaedr looking for an inscription that's not there.
Being more precise, the information on 'Mr Bryan' came from a booklet by Montgomeryshire Records (Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society) on the Parish of Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant No. Mr/MI/02 in the introduction to the Weslyan Methodist Chapel on p119.
I was sorting info ranging from booklets to scraps of paper to photos when the name rung a bell.
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John Wynne, in his "Hanes sir a thref Caernarfon (History of the shire and town of Caernarfon)" - pub 1861, paid tribute to the "Parch John Bryan/Rev John Bryan" who was buried Llanbeblig, 28 May 1856, age 81.
The Herald Cymraeg, 10 Feb 1914 (can be viewed at Welshnewspapers on line) published that tribute. It referred to his "ffraethder diarhebol (proverbial wit/humour)" and included an example. If you do check it out, John Wynne attributes the quote from the Bible to Deuteronomy Ch 8 v.7 - it is in fact from Revelations, Ch 8 v.1
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Thank you 'hanes teulu'. The Oil painting I have as my avatar, is Rev John Bryan. We also have several of the Staffordshire pottery figures that were made of him.
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Are you still looking for the birth of John, s/o John and Frances? I have the Montgomeryshire Records No. MR/PR/58, Parish of Llanfyllin, Register of Baptism & Burials, 1752-1787.
Page 38, #938:
1775: born, 15 Nov, John, s/o John Bryan flax-dresser and Frances
baptized: 15 Nov
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Thanks Genealiza, but I have all the bmd information now for John and birth info for his siblings from John and Frances Bryan in Llanfyllin.
I also have his mother's bmd but am struggling to find his father's birth. Which I'm starting to suspect may be in Shropshire as I can find nothing about 1750 for John Bryan.
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Hello, I am looking for help with my family, All records I have found are from Llanfyllin.This is what I have found.Llewelyn Jones married Margaret Lewis in 1835.Margaret was born Denbig,Denbigshire according to all census,
They had son Llewellyn born 1836.
A daughter Mary born 1839.
A son William born 1842 (my g-grandfather )
see 1851 census the family is living at Gelli Banks,Trederwen,Llansantfraid.