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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: TWIGG on Sunday 28 May 06 19:51 BST (UK)
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hi
anyone have old pictures of the barges or the men that worked them ,liverpool/leeds canal ,my family were bargees fron runcorn.
regards twigg
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Hi Twigg,
Have you looked at the web-site for the Ellesmere Port Boat Museum. In their collections they have a picture of "George" a Leeds & Liverpool Canal short boat. She is only 62 feet long and was designed to work between Wigan and Leeds where the locks were also only 62 feet long.
They have pictures of various canal vessels, just a case of establishing which particular type of "barge" you are looking for.
web site at http://www.boatmuseum.org.uk/ and then select "collections" then "boat collection"
If you can't find what you want in their gallery, try an email to the archivist.
Also try the "Virtual Waterways Trust " for pictures at:
http://www.virtualwaterways.co.uk/Home.html
hope this helps,
odessa.
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thank you odessa
i have looked at the two sites my boats are not there,
the boat names are lizzy/edna bate/maygog/gog if you do come across them please would you let me no
regard twigg
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Hi Twigg
what years are you looking for 1800's 1900's some of my ancestors worked the canals as well,so i will have scout round for you.Dont hold your breath though these boat people and boats are hard nuts to crack ;D
Celia
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hi celia so your family are boatmen two,
mine are as far back i think 1700 late
my father was arthur twigg 1910 married jane martin
his dad was william 1882 married florance ashley
his dad was john 1857 married jane e smetham
his dad was george its george i am stuck on dont no nothing about him carnt get birth records of his kids so carnt get mothers maiden name only that was elizabeth i carnt fined a marrage for the as thy moved that often thy were all fron cheshire thy were mainly born on boats that why i dont think thy registered and mybe george was not married
so he is my brick wall waiting for birth records of james son of john so i am hopeing thank you for your time twigg
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Twigg, have a look at these sites
http://www.mersey-gateway.org/
There is a section on Manchester Ship and Bridgewater Canal which both run through Runcorn
www.runcornhistsoc.org.uk
www.sunnyfield.co.uk/runcorn.htm
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Hi Twigg
If John Twigg wasn't born till 1857 (where) Have you got him on the 1861 census with his parents. Daft question really as you wouldn't know where he was would you ;D I have had a quick look on the 1837 registers and there are 2 John Twigg
and 1 John Twiggs registered, Utoxeter (Hope thats spelled right it's hard to read) Barnstable, and Barnet. The January 1/4 seems to be missing for1857 you have probably seen those anyway. When i asked for years, roughly, i had meant for the barges ;) If you havent got the family on the census i am sure someone will oblidge.
Celia
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Hi Twigg,
My lots were bargees as well - have a look at this page for a start on my website:
http://batemans-history.rootschat.net/canalsofengland.htm
There are other photos on site as well although not your boats - how did you find out the names of your boats - never thought that was possible - even though I found one of my lot on "a" boat on the river Lea in Hertfordshire in the 1841 census!!
Cheers
Keith
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hi keith
i always new my dad s boats were lizzy and edna bate as he called my sister after the edna
did you ever come across an old boatman called harry vaughn he died about two or three years ago at the age of 83 he was my dads cousin his boat was the maywin at one time he made a ty vidio about life on the canals ,so sorry i have not seen it one of his family has it maybe you have i think it was for bbc tv .regard
twigg
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hi again keith
i was surprised to see your family tree has the partingtons,dont no if anyone of them came from liverpool.
my great g father was thomas partington he married elizabeth partington formal pollick its a small world there are partingtons everywere regards twigg
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Hi Twigg,
Your right about lots of Partingtons - most came from Stretford, and Radcliffe although some went to Liverpool and my grandfather to Devon.
Those date you have put down are birth dates I presume - i.e. William born 1882!?
You may find like my lot that they were a close knit group of people and married into the same collection of names - often staying at census times with other family members - when their parents were off on their boat trips.
Cheers
Keith
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Hi Twigg,
I read with interst your post about the barges, My husband knew Harry Vaughan very well, he did as you say die a while back, I would, seeing as how you knew Harry if he was family You could try that book Burcough boatman and their marriage's it lists all those familiar names. It has been some time since I read the book so I am not sure weather or not it lists the names of the boats.
Harry was a great guy, showed my husband a lot of old rope tricks, he loved to talk did Harry I wish my husband had taped half of what he said it would have made my research a lot easier.
Best wishes
San