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Title: Spencer - 1901 Census From England
Post by: lisauk on Saturday 27 May 06 22:15 BST (UK)
Hi, I am not sure how the Australian census works but I am wondering if some king person would look up a Henry (Son b. 1993) Charles (Brother of Henry not sure of age) and father Charles (Not sure of age but a window).

They came from England in the 1990's after the death of Mrs Spencer.

Any help woud be fantastic.

Henry died in 1915 he was a Trooper, I have his casualty details.

Cheers Lisa
Title: Re: Spencer - 1901 Census From England
Post by: sidsmith on Saturday 27 May 06 22:35 BST (UK)
Hi Lisa

Unfortunately there is no Australian Cencus available as they were destroyed after each census was taken.

Regards
Sid Smith
Title: Re: Spencer - 1901 Census From England
Post by: lisauk on Saturday 27 May 06 22:41 BST (UK)
Do you know how I can find out further details about the Spencer family in question?

The only information I have to go on is the details from the Commonweatlth War Graves.

Cheers Lisa
Title: Re: Spencer - 1901 Census From England
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 27 May 06 23:49 BST (UK)
Hi Lisa
The information you have on Henry may give place of enlistment [which I assume was somewhere in Australia] and other details which may give at least a state to look in.

Other things of help would be middle names, Charles snr's birth date and birth  place and when last seen on a British census.When did his wife die exactly?
Hope we can turn up some info for you!
Sue
Title: Re: Spencer - 1901 Census From England
Post by: valerie kehoe on Sunday 28 May 06 02:13 BST (UK)
Hi there,
Is this your Henry Spencer?
CWGC
Henry Spencer d 1915 age22 son of Charles & Marie Spencer
husband of G E Spencer of 'Port Lincoln' Davenport Tce Hilton SA
Hopefully someone with SA BMD's may find out more for you.
The SA State Library would have records too.
- Valerie
Title: Re: Spencer - 1901 Census From England
Post by: tropicalj on Sunday 28 May 06 04:53 BST (UK)
Hello there
here you are

marriage 10/3/1915 at adelaide
henry aged 25 son of charles married
gladys edith BUCK aged 22

iisnt that interesting he must have been married a very short time beofre he was killed in august 1915
so i dont have any birth index after 1906  to see if there are any children

regards jenn
Title: Re: Spencer - 1901 Census From England
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 28 May 06 04:59 BST (UK)
Hi, I think there is a digitisd copy of his service history for you to see on.  Hope it is him.



http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/imagine.asp?B=8086941&I=1&SE=1
Title: Re: Spencer - 1901 Census From England
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 28 May 06 05:18 BST (UK)
PS
I think the records tell us that there was a child also named Henry  and that his wife Gladys was seriously ill at the time of his death from wounds of war.  It makes interesting, but sad reading.  You will find addresses and other useful information therein which will further your search hopefully.

About an hour after this above search, I have found on the same site digitesed copies for 2 Charles Spencers.  It will take a bit of careful reading, but they are clearly related to your Henry. Possibly one is brother and one is cousin. - not sure.  The same addresses come up for Next of Kin -Carrington Street Adelaide.
Sue
Title: Re: Spencer - 1901 Census From England
Post by: tropicalj on Sunday 28 May 06 06:09 BST (UK)
Hello there

I was just going to post the same info

the NAA is such a wonderfll mine of information

i found the names of a few children through this as a result of their dad dying in the war
a tradegy and a huge loss

but thankfully these records are available as there are no census records kept which makes it so hard for geneaology in Aus but it does give a further detail into births

Thanks for this site it is such a big help

regards jenn
Title: Re: Spencer - 1901 Census From England
Post by: Angel1472 on Sunday 28 May 06 18:05 BST (UK)
Hi Lisa posted this information on my behalf last night. Thank you to everyone who has replied so far.

Thank you to : tropicalj  for the details of the marriage - i believe this to be the correct one

also to valerie for the details from commonwealth war graves - yes it is the correct one


thank you to sue for the digitised service history - that is excellent - please coudl you send the link for the 2 charles spencers that you found as i believe they could  be his brother and father who signed up to the scottish regiment
Title: Re: Spencer - 1901 Census From England
Post by: sparrett on Monday 29 May 06 00:04 BST (UK)
Hi,

  Here is the site.
http://www.naa.gov.au/
Search records... search as guest...enter Charles Spencer Adelaide in Keyword box...display records..see Charles Spencer ... click to see digital images of 2 or 3
you will soon see which are the ones about your men by their ages, addressss etc.
Sorry I am in hurry for work.  If yuo have trouble, I willl send direct link later.  Can't locate right now.
Sue
Title: Re: Spencer - 1901 Census From England
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 29 May 06 00:44 BST (UK)
Hello there

it is interesting to note that this chap died on a hospital ship
it would a ppear from his record that he was alighthoreseman now they were invlovled in one of the famous battles on gallipoli in august where they tried to secure a sectin know as The Nek  this is featured in the film made in the early 80s from memory starring mel gibson

just a bit of history you might like to know
regards jenn