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Title: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: Coriolana on Sunday 08 February 04 01:58 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I'm researching my McPherson line from Sydney.

Duncan McPherson b. abt 1842, Argyll married Mary O'Donnell in Sydney, Australia on 18 Nov 1873.  I don't have any immigration details on Duncan.

His parents were Duncan McPherson b. abt 1803 Argyll and Mary (maiden name unknown) b abt 1805 in Argyll.  Any information about these McPhersons would be greatly appreciated. ;D

regards
Carol
Title: Re: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: Ticker on Sunday 09 January 05 10:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol

Sorry we haven't been able to help you so far on this one. 

Have you made any progress,  or do you have any further details that could help someone to find what you are looking for?

Look forward to hearing from you.

Best wishes 

Ticker
Title: Re: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: Shirley Sweetland on Monday 10 January 05 06:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol if you go to" www.bdm.nsw.gov.au" then to "Family History "then "online historical indexes" you will see the record of the marriage there. You can also search death and birth records as well, and order certificates. Aussie certificates usually have more info on them than UK ones.

Good luck

Shirley
Perth West Oz
Title: Re: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: Shirley Sweetland on Monday 10 January 05 06:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol me again here is a Duncan Mcpherson who fits the bill on the 1881 census.

Regards
SS

   Dwelling:   Corpach Hotel
   Census Place:   Kilmallie, Argyll, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203558     GRO Ref    Volume 520    EnumDist 12    Page 14
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Colin D. MC PHERSON   U   28    M   Kilmonivaig, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Hotel Keeper
Sarah MC PHERSON   U   34    F   Kilmonivaig, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Sister
   Occ:   Housekeeper
Duncan MC PHERSON   W   78    M   Ardnamurchan, Argyll, Scotland
   Rel:   Father
   Occ:   (Not In Sch)
Margaret A. MILLER       11    F   Kilmorack, Inverness, Scotland
   Rel:   Niece
   Occ:   Scholar
Ann MC EACHRAN   U   35    F   Ardnamurchan, Argyll, Scotland
   Rel:   Serv
   Occ:   Cook (Domestic Serv)
Mary CAMERON   U   23    F   Kilmallie, Argyll, Scotland
   Rel:   Serv
   Occ:   Housemaid (Dom Serv)
John CAMERON   U   18    M   Kilmallie, Argyll, Scotland
   Rel:   Serv
   Occ:   Post Boy (Domestic Serv)
John CRAWFORD   U   68    M   Cowal, Argyll, Scotland
   Rel:   Serv
   Occ:   Ferry Man
Title: Re: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: Jenny Wood on Monday 10 January 05 08:49 GMT (UK)
Carol,

Do you have Duncan's death certificate as it may have more details (including he mother maiden name) and will definitely tell you what year he migrated.

You may then find the immigration records give his mothers maiden name (depending on the type of immigrant he was and where and when he arrived).  He may also have immigrated as a child with his parents in which case you may get lucky and get their parents names.

A quick search of the NSW BDM (assuming he died in NSW) shows a couple of possibilities (but you will have to order them)

One quite close and Sydney
5488/1909  MCPHERSON  DUNCAN  DUNCAN  MARY  GRANVILLE   

others remote but possible
16805/1932  MCPHERSON  DUNCAN  DUNCAN  MARY  REDFERN    (Sydney - and he would need to have lived to 90)
17716/1934  MCPHERSON  DUNCAN  85 YRS DIST HOSP  ALBURY  ALBURY   (Country NSW - and he would need to have lived to 92)
12849/1896  MCPHERSON  DUNCAN  UNKNOWN  UNKNOWN  BATHURST   (Country NSW - couldn't see a death for Mary McPherson in Bathurst)

The other death records have different parents names.

The other approach you could take is www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk.  They have the parish registers and statutory registers indexed.  It is a pay site, but you can view some of the images to the records online also.  These will probably be in the old parish registers but you may be able to find his christening or the marriage of his parents to help you on your way.

Hope the above helps.

Jenny

Title: Re: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: Ticker on Monday 10 January 05 21:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol me again here is a Duncan Mcpherson who fits the bill on the 1881 census.

Regards
SS

Well done Shirley, you are busy today!  ;)  Thanks for answering so many of my prompts - we make a good double act - I say sorry we haven't helped you yet, and you do all the work!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
Thanks

Ticker
Title: Re: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: Coriolana on Tuesday 11 January 05 05:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Shirley and Ticker,

I have Duncan's death certificate.  Born in Argyllshire, Scotland. He died in 1871 at Ultimo, (Sydney).  It lists Colin McPherson as his father - a farmer.  His mother is not listed.  Duncan's son, Daniel, was the informant.  States time in the colony as 27 years and 11 months.  Spouse - Mary McInnes.

I found his grave at Rookwood Cemetery.  The headstone is very weathered - it also lists the following buried at that location:

His wife Mary d. 9/7/1876 aged 78
Flora Thornley (daughter) d. 7.2.1879 aged 41
Henry George Thornley b. 1/1/1864 only son of the late Henry George and Flora Thornley, d. 22/9/1898.

That's what I have to date :-)

Carol
Title: Re: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: Owlymac on Thursday 06 May 10 02:44 BST (UK)
Hi Carol,
I'm not sure if you will get this message or not. I have just signed up and are navigating my way around the site.
I may have some information about Duncan McPherson for you. I have a Duncan McPherson who died at Albury District Hospital in 1934 born in Glasgow 1849, married to a Jean McIver. He immigrated to Australia in 1881. They had a son, also Duncan born in Wandin Yallock Victoria in 1883. He is my Grandfather. If you want any more information, or you have information for me, please contact me directly at (*)  I may have lots more info for you to share.

Thanks Sarah

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Title: Re: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: Coriolana on Thursday 06 May 10 03:04 BST (UK)
Jenny,

I have Duncan's death certificate.  Born in Argyllshire, Scotland. He died in 1871 at Ultimo, (Sydney).  It lists Colin McPherson as his father - a farmer.  His mother is not listed.  Duncan's son, Daniel, was the informant.  States time in the colony as 27 years and 11 months.  Spouse - Mary McInnes. (As I had stated in a previous posting).

It doesn't look like we are talking about the same family, my McPherson's were in Sydney with no links to VIC. I haven't done any research for some years and am not currently working on my tree.

Thanks for your help and good luck with your research.

regards
Carol
Title: Re: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: Harves54 on Sunday 11 January 15 10:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Coriolana
I am also researching the Duncan McPherson (died Ultimo 1871) family line that lived in Sydney. I may have further information and maybe you can assist me. I'm really like to obtain photos of the McPhersons.
Cheers
Brian
Title: Re: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: majm on Sunday 11 January 15 11:32 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

Welcome to RootsChat.

May I please mention that there’s quite a number of chaps named  McPHERSON in New South Wales in 1870.   For example, just in the West Sydney electorate (so, the Sydney suburbs of Ultimo, Pyrmont, The Rocks, and much of the Sydney CBD)  there’s the following chaps.

NSW electoral roll 1870 WEST SYDNEY
McPherson  Daniel, residence,  106 Victoria St
McPherson  Dougal, householder, Victoria place
McPherson  Duncan, householder, 60 Liverpool St
McPherson Duncan, householder, 106 Victoria St
McPherson  Duncan, junior,  residence, 106 Victoria St
McPherson  Evan, householder, Kensington St
McPherson  Hugh,  residence Piper’s lane Off Sussex St
McPherson James, freehold, 10 Waterloo place
McPherson  John, residence, 12 Kensington St
McPherson  Peter, residence, Liverpool St
McPherson  Richard, household, Liverpool St
McPherson  William, freehold 12 Kensington St

To be eligible to be enrolled (and it was not compulsory to enrol) you needed to be a) male,  b) British subject, either by birth or by naturalisation,  c) aged 21 years of age or more  d)qualified by residency and or property holding. 

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: Harves54 on Sunday 11 January 15 11:51 GMT (UK)
Hi JM

Many thanks - Duncan died at 9 Victoria St, Ultimo. Looks like the 1870 address of 106 Victoria St may possibly be my Duncan as he had sons Daniel and Duncan. Duncan had earlier lived in 8 Victoria street, Ultimo behind the Smart Mills ??? (rented from Thos Ware Smart). Does the Electoral Rolls supply and more information eg occupation, etc. My Duncan married Mary McInnes  who died 1876 in Sydney probably Ultimo.
Cheers
Brian
Title: Re: McPHERSON - research from Australia
Post by: majm on Sunday 11 January 15 21:48 GMT (UK)
City of Sydney Assessment Books are freely available online, and the particular Ward covering Ultimo in the 1870s would be Denison.    The 1871 rates show that Duncan McPHERSON was rated in respect of 308 Sussex Street, East Side.   The Property Owner or Landlord was a William ASHTON, it was a house (and not a warehouse, nor a shop) with a gross annual value of £26.  It was of Brick, with Shingle roofing, 2 floors, 3 rooms.     William Ashton occupied 306 Sussex St, and owned 304, 306 and 308 Sussex St.     (Until 1879, City of Sydney collected rates from the person occupying the premises, rather than the land owner).

http://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/search-our-collections/house-and-building-histories/assessment-books 

I have popped the above link into this post, as it gives lots of interesting information about the City of Sydney’s Archives,  Historical photographs and maps, Sands Directories, that are freely available to search through online. 

Occupations were not included in the NSW electoral rolls until after federation.  Females included in NSW electoral rolls from 1902.


Cheers,  JM