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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Flintshire => Topic started by: tobyjug on Wednesday 24 May 06 09:37 BST (UK)
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I have some information on the Hopwood family some of whom were born at Bryn y Baal, Argoed. Anybody who could offer more info - please do!
Isaiah Hopwood ch.26.03.1834 son of William Hopwood(Collier, Argoed) and Margaret
married Martha Jones(Registered Dec 1854 Great Boughton)
1861 Census, Bryn y Baal, Argoed (RG09 Piece 4275 Folio 7 Page 7)
Isaiah Hopwood Head married 27 Coal Miner b.Flint, Mold
Martha Hopwood Wife Married 27 b.Denbigh, Ruthin
Mary Hopwood Daughter 5 b.Flint, Argoed (ch.09.10.1855)
Margaret Hopwood Daughter 3 b.Flint, Argoed (ch.16.11.1856)
John Hopwood Son 2 b.Flint Argoed
William Hopwood Son 0 b.Flint Argoed
1871 and 1881 - no info yet
1891 Census Chamber Lane, Mold, Argoed
Isaiah,head,married, 57,Coal miner
Martha,wife,married,57
Mary,daughter,single,36,dressmaker
James,son,single,23,coal miner b.Mold
Kendrick,son,single,18,saddler b.Mold
Edith E,daughter,14,scholar b.Mold
I know they had another daughter Martha Ann born 26.11.1874 at Bryn y Baal. She married James Henry Bottomley at Byrom Hall Baptists Church,Liverpool on 20.09.1899. My line runs from this couple.
Hope some of this might be useful. Please feel free to add anything.
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Hi tobyjug
1871
There is this family
Isiah Hopwood head mar 37 coalminer Mold
Martha " wife mar 37 "
Margret " dau u/m 14 "
John " son u/m 12 coalminer "
William " son u/m 10 scholar "
Eliza " son u/m 8 " "
James " son u/m 3 "
Sarah " dau u/m 1 infant "
living at Argoed, Mold, Flintshire
Rg10/ 5647
folio 64
page 22
ricky
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Hello tobyjug,
The only Marriage I could find in Mold of a William Hopwood and Margaret.
June 16 1832. William Hopwood. Widower. Married Margaret Williams, Spinster.
Witnesses. Ephraim Hopwood and Anne Jones.
None of them signed their names they all made their mark (X).
If you post a message asking for William and Margaret on the 1841 and 51 you should see if they are Isaiah's Parents.
If you want the details from Isaiah and Martha's Marriage let me know and I'll get them the next time I'm in Chester I'll call in the archives.
Paul.
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1901
Isiah Hopwood head mar 67 ret miner (hewer) Flint Mold
Martha " wife mar 67 " "
Mary " dau u/m 45 " "
living at Chamber Lane, Mold, Flintshire
Rg13/ 5213
folio 47
page 28
ricky
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Thanks guys
This is all really useful. Thanks for the offer Paul - very kind - but I have the certificate on order as we speak!
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I realise that this post is a little old know, but my great uncle Wilfred price was married to Margaret Eleanor (Nell) Hopwood from "The Bryn" she was an only child and her mother died when she was young and her father remarried Mary?? she had lots of cousins though who lived in Mynydd isa I remember Minnie .
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I am the great grand daughter of William Hopwood and the grand daughter of William Alfred Hopwwod, who was headmaster of the Board School in Glanrafon, Mold and I spent my first 2 years in Mynydd Isa. I am having difficulty trying to establish which of the Isaiah/Isiah/Esiah Hopwood's belong to my family tree as they are all married apparently, to a Martha Hopwood. Could this be because the census forms are totally inaccurate?
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do you have a puplic family tree on ancestry.com as SERENITY
SYLVIA
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Hi my dad was the adopted son of Martha Ann Bottomley (née Hopwood) so she is my grandmother. She had a lot of children including Faith Ruth Sam (who died in the war) Norman Wally and others.
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Hi to John Bottomly. My grandmother was Faith Bottomly. She married Henry Charles Kennedy and had two children June and Henry. Henry (Harry) is my dad - 82 and still walking up fells. I remember Ruth who i stayed with many times and Lesley(?)who I used to help manning the pleasure boats on Lake Windermere during my school holidays. Who was the adopted son? It's all intriguing and dad will be interested.
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Hi TobyJug,
This is so great to finally catch up with others in the family. I have wanted to do this for so long now.
Anyway a bit about our family. We live in New Zealand. My father (John Alan Bottomley) who he tells me was adopted by Martha Bottomley from birth. He was the youngest of all the family. He is now 85 years old and still active but a bit frail now, but lives around the corner so I see him daily.
Dad adored his adopted mum (Martha) and thought the world of her. She must have been really special and a great woman. We have all inherited her strong faith and we all are active in church life here. Dad married again after my mother died in 1995. He keeps in contact with many of the family and he has mentioned the Kennedy family.
I am in my late 50's now, married with three children (Lara, Shannon and Samuel). Lara (20) is studying at Auckland Uni, Shannon (17) is in her last year of school, and Sam (14) is at school. We named him Sam partly due to Dad's brother Sam, who was good at football (just like my Sam). My mother and father emigrated to NZ when I was about 2 yo in late 1950's.
I am an engineer (having studied engineering at university for 6 years) and much of my work is in Asia, where we lived (Indonesia) for three years.
Out of interest I would like if possible to find out more about dad's real mum and dad who gave him up for adoption. If the family know anything I would be interested.
Anyway that's probably enough for now.
Keep in touch
John Bottomley
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Hello John,
It was lovely to hear from you and discover a little more about my nan's side of the family. I mentioned to my mum (Harry's wife) that you had been in touch and asked her if she knew any of the background to your dad's adoption. She seemed to think that John was actually Martha's grandson - the son of one of her sons (or possibly Faith or Ruth - I'd need to research dates etc to see if that were possible) and she brought him up as her own son. It may be something you could research. I'll see what I can find out too.
Much love Vickie
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Hi Vickie, (better than- Hi Tobyjugs!),
this is very interesting about dad being Martha's grand son. Any further information you can find out please let me know.
Years ago when I was in England I stayed with Ruth who I got on so well with and I asked her about dad. She said that she knew the young girl and they both were the same age (about 17) and this girl got pregnant by mistake and Martha decided to adopt. There was some info from somewhere that both parents were welsh but don't know anything else. I do know Ruth was very close to my dad and they got on very well. Ruth also said that Dads mother turned up at his wedding, and didn't tell anyone but Ruth knew.
Dad has tried for years to find out information about is real mum and dad and I think he would be overjoyed to hear (if you can confirm this) that Martha is his blood grandmother, as he even today talks so much about how wonderful she was to him as how he loved her so much. I have a photo of Martha holding me as a baby.
Warm regards
John
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Hi Vickie,
well its been some years now since I last posted. I was disappointed I never got a reply to my last post. I hope that it has not upset you and the family that I was inquiring about my dad's birth mother and Father?
Any way the family and I are doing a trip to UK this Christmas and we hope to catch up with Ann Ferdinand, Val and Geoff Bailey and Marjorie Davidson.
If you want to ever get in touch I would be really pleased to hear from you.
My email address is bottomleyj@thorndoncook.com
Cheers
John Bottomley