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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Essex => Topic started by: slightlyfoxed on Sunday 21 May 06 13:25 BST (UK)
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I am looking for Braintree Baptists. Children of Rev John Hornblow who was minister from 1779 until 1816.
He was said to have a very large family but we have found only 5.
AND John Hornblow's annual stipend in 1779 was £40 a year ,which is below what other anglican clergy were paid (£50 -£100 PA or more)
I never thought about it before but does/did the Sunday collection go towards the support of the minister or just the running the church?
ALSO. clergymen needed to have a university degree to be ordained. it didnt need to be in theology. Did that apply to Baptist ministers of the late 18th Century??
any light on the subject would be interesting.
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2009 and I can answer some of my own questions.
Non conformists such as baptists in the 18th c were not accepted at University. They therefore could not become gentlemen as other clergy were. ( All it required was attendance at Oxford and Cambridge.) This became a source of contention with the nonconformist ministers , hence, Antidisestablishmentarianism!!
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Hello, slightlyfoxed - did you have to put your teeth back in after saying that?? We have Baptist connections so it was interesting to see what you'd found out.
Your user name is interesting too - that's the title I've always thought I'd use for my autobiography! ;D Are you a bookworm?
:)
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what teeth? ;D
I am a bookworm and the user name was because it can have two meanings. a little confused as well as spotty books!!
I also love words and never actually understood Antidisestablishmentarianism properly until I read about my baptist ancestor!
Braintree Baptist Church have been brilliant and sent me all sorts of info about Rev Hornblow including his orbit' and a photo of his portrait!
Direct contact seems the best answer although A2A is a way to go.
Trying to trace children of Baptists has proved really difficult before 1837. I think I may have lost at least 5 born before 1795!!
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My mother in law has been secretary of Halstead Baptist Church for the last 25 years or more, although hopefully they'll be able to find a replacement soon as it is getting too much for her.
I understand "foxed" was a slang expression for "drunk" in the late 18th/early 19th century. I've just posted a birthday card to my stepfather with this little four line poem in it, written by me:
"You may be a little bit shelf-worn
Not exactly in mint condition,
Slightly foxed, with a few of your pages torn,
But at least you're a First Edition!"
;D
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I like that! describes me well too!
Id forgotten foxed meant drunk ....! I dont , well not often at least! anyway Im too old to be falling about the place!
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the "confused" meaning would describe me well, as would the "aged" description, but it's my proud boast that I've never been drunk. I seem to remember from my Georgette Heyer reading that another description of being "a bit the worse for wear" was "a trifled disguised".
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well I dont Boast about getting tiddly once in awhile, although we have laughed remembering a dear and very dignified friend and myself, having been to a quiet social gathering and partaken somewhat unwisely, cautiously and with great care, weaving our way home !!
We both aspire to grow old with as disgracefully as we can.
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As my husband is a great beer and wine enthusiast, I need to stay sober so I can pull him out of brambles and stop him trying to cross railway lines on the way home!
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I do sympathise. These days I am only responsible for myself which is quite a relief!
I have a birthday soon the 66 one! big groan! I keep quiet about them these days! Not wishing to be reminded!
Your Ma in Law, does she know of Rev John Hornblow of Braintree?The Baptist Church there said he was quite famous locally and he was said to have been born in Halstead 1743 but I couldnt find him 1740 -1745. ???
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I will e-mail and ask her but she and her husband came to Halstead from London in the 1970s. However, we do know some people whose families have been in the town for quite a bit longer than that. I'll see what I can find out for you. :)
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that would be great. thank you.
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Sorry, foxy, mum in law says the church only keeps records of people coming into membership and anyway those records don't go back far enough to be of any use to you. She can only suggest Essex Record Office, which no doubt you've already tried.
It's a memorable name though, so I'll keep an eye open and also have a word with the people I know who run the Halstead History Society.
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That would be very useful He may have had a brother called Ebenezer.
He witnessed the second marriage of Sarah Hornblow, when she married John Cadle January 1816 as spinster Sarah Moore.
Ebeneza Hornblow buried on 28 oct 1826 aged 38 , born abt 1788 , buried at South Weald Essex. (St Peter
Many Thanks
Foxy
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Hello Slightly Foxed, very sorry about the long delay replying - only 3 years! I keep forgetting my password etc and it gets embarrassing having to keep asking for a new one! I remembered it by sheer luck this time.
I will ask my mother in law about Rev thingumybob.
:)
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In Find My Past I found a Hornblow connection in Halstead where the Rev.John Hornblow said he was born in 1744
JERONIMO HORNBLOW Birth year unknown Buried 28 Jan 1797 HALSTEAD ST ANDREW ANGLICAN church Essex
Record National Burial Index for England & Wales - Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
MARY HORNBLOW Birth year Burial year 1789 19th Nov HALSTEAD
I love the idea of a past relative called jeronimo !
I have as much of his life as i expect to find -I have put it all on my website where he has his own page.
https://sites.google.com/site/pomeroytrees/reverend-john-hornblow