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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Bedfordshire => Topic started by: Bethan on Saturday 13 May 06 19:09 BST (UK)
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Please has anyone got the 1871 census for Bedford, I am looking for Barzillai Denton born 1865, possibly living with his parents James and Martha, there is another brother called Theadore born 1865 and a sister called Amelia, I cannot find Barzillai in the 1881 census, I would be gratefull if someone could help me , Regards Bethan
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Hi Bethan
1871 RG10/1498 Folio 11
James Denton Head 43 Ag Lab
Martha Wife 42 Lace Maker
Hugh son 16 Ag Lab
Emmeline Dau 12 Lace Maker
Barzillai Son 6
Theodore Son 2
Cottage, Podington, Bedfordshire
Reg Dist: Wellingborough
all born Hinwick, Bedfordshire
Sue
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1881 census RG11/1573 Folio 23
James Denton Head 53 Shepherd
Martha Wife 52
Barzillia Son 16 Ag Labourer
Theodor Son 12
Walter Son 8 b Colworth
Leonard Son 4 b Colworth
3 Woolstons Buildings, Wellingborough, Bedfordshire
all born Hinwick except Walter & Leonard
Sue
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Dear Sue, Thank you so much for all your help, Hugh the elder brother of Barzillai was my great grandfather,I am trying to find the French connection, family folklore says that we have French ancestors, but looking at the names of the children of James and Martha I am more inclined to believe that there is a Greek connection, or maybe just like the young parents of today James and Martha liked to give thier children unusual names, Thank you again for your kindness, Best Regards Bethan
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Hi Bethan,
I assume that you are refering to Barzillai as the unusual name. Barzillai is actually a Biblical name from the story of David. I have both a Barzillai and a Barzillia (the female version) from around the same era in my tree.
It may indicate that the family were non-conformists, probably Baptists.
Paul
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Thanks a lot Paul,that is very interesting and might be of help to me in my search,
Regards Bethan
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Hi, seems to be more of a biblical connection than a French one.
Here is the 1861 census
James Denton, head, age 32, farm labourer born Hinwick
Martha, wife, age 32, lace maker born Hinwick
Caleb, son, age 11, school born Hinwick
Amelia, dau, age 9, school born Hinwick
Hugh, son, age 5, school born Hinwick
Emiline, dau, age 2 born Hinwick
RG9 952
folio 15 page 27
Puddington, Bedfordshire
and the 1851
Thos Denton, head, age 55, ag lab born Bedfordshire Lavendon
Martha, wife, age 59, lace maker born Bedfordshire Harrold
Jas, son, age 23, ag lab born Bedfordshire Hinwick
Martha, dau in law, age 22, lace maker born Bedfordshire Hinwick
Caleb, grandson, age 1 born Bedfordshire Hinwick
HO 107 1743
folio 226 page 2
Puddington, Bedfordshire
Nicky
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I must admit, I got intrigued, and then got nosy, so ...
for all those who were wondering, but were afraid to ask:
1 Kings 2:7
But show kindness unto the sons of Barzillai the Gileadite, and let them be of those that eat at thy table:
for so they came to me when I fled because of Absalom thy brother. (KJV)
Google gives 103.000 hits for barzillai, the first pages being mostly biblical references, whereas barzillia gives 604 hits, the first page being genealogy references for male children ???
Bob
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The Bettles don't seem to be anymore french either.
Marriages Jun 1849
Bettles Martha Wellingbro' 15 653
Denton James Wellingbro 15 653
1841 census HO107 8/13 Folio 6 page 5
Hinwick Puddington Bedfordshire
John Bettles 45 Shepherd crossed through and Ag lab inserted
Sarah Bettles 45
Willm Bettles 20 Bedfordshire
Mary Bettles 16 Bedfordshire
John Bettles 14 Bedfordshire
Martha Bettles 12 Bedfordshire
Hannah Bettles 7 Bedfordshire
Sarah Bettles 3 Bedfordshire
1851 census HO107 1743 folio 227
Hinwick Puddington Bedfordshire
John Bettle 55 Bozeat, Northamptonshire, Head Married Ag Lab
Sarah Bettle 56 Irchester, Northamptonshire, Wife Married
Sophia Bettle 22 Hinwick, Bedfordshire, Son's wife Married Lacemaker
Hannan Bettle 17 Hinwick, Bedfordshire, Daughter Lacemaker
Sarah Bettle 13 Hinwick, Bedfordshire, Daughter Lacemaker
1841 census HO107 8/13 Folio 9 Page 9
Hinwick Puddington Bedfordshire
Thos Denton 45 Bedfordshire Ag lab
Martha Denton 45 Bedfordshire
Hannah Denton 19 Bedfordshire
Martha Denton 17 Bedfordshire
Jas Denton 14 Bedfordshire
Regards
Valda
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Thank you ever so much Nicky, Bob +Valda, you have all been really helpful and informative, and have filled in a lot of gaps in my research, it looks as if family legend has got it wrong again, unless I am looking at the wrong branch of the tree.
Sorry that I am not able to thank you individually as I have not worked out how to do it yet, I am a bit of a novice on the computer, but thank you all for your help.
Best Regards Bethan
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Hi Bob,
My Barzillai was definately male.
Barzillai Deacon b 1839 Fleckney, Leics and his sister Barzillia Deacon born 1842 Fleckney. They also had a brother Job and a sister Hannah. Their Uncle Abraham founded the "Strict and Peculiar Carmel Chapel" in Fleckney.
There are several other related Barzillai Deacon males around the latter half of the 19th century.
Paul