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Title: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: beryla on Wednesday 10 May 06 21:24 BST (UK)
Hello

I'm trying to find the parents of William Hughes.

His father was Edward Hughes

He married Ann Noakes in 1874 at Stoke St.Milborough and gave his place of residence as Burwarton Shrops and his age as 22, so would make his dob  c1852

On the 1881 age 30 place of birth Bishops Castle Shrops
 "          1891       40                "     Weston???          "
 "          1901       50                "     Wistanstow         "

So if anyone could find this family before his marriage, I would be very grateful as I just cannot find any trace of them

Thanks very much. I been very impressed with all the help I've received in the past, so fingers crossed.

Regards

Beryla

Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: pete edwards on Thursday 11 May 06 18:12 BST (UK)
Hi Beryla,

Been trying to find your William on the 71, 61, census, I see what you mean, has he any siblings that you know of on the info that you have,?.  I will keep looking.

Best wishes .
Pete,
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: beryla on Thursday 11 May 06 19:43 BST (UK)
Hello Pete

Thanks for that swift reply. No, I'm afraid I don't have anything else at the moment, and of course with names like William and Edward it doesn't make things easier does it. Anyway I'll keep plodding on  and thanks for keeping a look out for me.

Regards

Beryla
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: alnat on Thursday 11 May 06 20:28 BST (UK)
Not much help I'm afraid but Weston could be Westhope which isn't far from Wistanstow?
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: beryla on Thursday 11 May 06 20:56 BST (UK)
Hello Pete

Thanks again.  Every little helps doesn't it and that may be THE vital clue

Regards
Beryla
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: Cazay on Friday 12 May 06 08:27 BST (UK)
Hi Beryl

Your William seems to have a different place of birth for each census which makes him difficult to pinpoint.

I have found these two Williams in the 1871 census who could be a chance.  The first one's place of birth is Burton which could also be Burwarton???  What do you think?

1871/William Hughes unm 20 Burton Farm Servant
Bucknell

1871/William Hughes unm 19 Kinnerley Farm Servant
Gt Ness Shropshire

In 1861, harder to find William living with a father Edward and if he is a servant, again difficult to say which one is yours.

This family in 1851 is near to the area that William was born.

Edward Hughes H 45 Montgomeryshire Wales Ag Lab
Ann Hughes Wife 35 Clunbury
Harriet Hughes dau 8 Wistanstow
Martha Hughes dau 6 Stokesay
Ann Hughes dau 2 Hopesay
William Hughes son Infant Stokesay
Stoke and Newton Shropshire H0107/1982 F636 p12

1861, a possible but William is a bit younger

Edward Hughes H 36 Clun Ag Lab
Sarah Hughes Wife 37 Hayton
George Hughes son 12 Ashford
James Hughes son 10 Ashford
William Hughes son 8 Ashford
Ashford Carbonell, Ashford Bowdler RG9/1837 F7 p 7

Cazay
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: Joburg on Friday 12 May 06 08:51 BST (UK)
Hi,
 
    1861 census for Ashford Bowdler,Shropshire

     Piece 1837 Fol.7 Page 7

Edward Hughes 36 Ag.Lab. born Clun Shropshire
Sarah 37 born Hayton Shropshire
George 12 born Ashford
James 10 born Ashford
William 8 born Ashford

Regards

Joburg
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: beryla on Monday 15 May 06 18:36 BST (UK)
Hello Cazay,

Many thanks for all that searching.. very impressive.

The Burton and Burwarton seem a good possibility don't they. I don't think he was 100% sure where he was born, although a lot of these places are very close to each other aren't they.. I've been studying the map of Shrops.!!

As for the earlier census I'm just not sure which to favour at the moment. They chose such unusual  names didn't they.

What do you suggest for my next move?

Any suggestions very welcome

Regards

Beryla
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: beryla on Monday 15 May 06 18:41 BST (UK)
Hello Joburg

Thank you very much for your help and your results. Yes that could be my William Hughes couldn't it. As ages  aren't always a guarantee are they.
I wish I knew more about his brothers and sisters and favoured first names, but that's all part of the game isn't it.

What do YOU suggest as my next move?

Anyway thanks again

Regards

Beryla

Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: Cazay on Tuesday 16 May 06 14:03 BST (UK)
Hi Beryl

There is a William Hughes in the 1861 born Kinnerley with a father Robert so the entry above for 1871 may not be the right one.

With what you already know I would suggest maybe looking into the parish records for the area in which William was born.  You really need to find some definite link and information in the census records are not always correct.  Having something else to go on would help locate his family in the census.

Cazay
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: beryla on Tuesday 16 May 06 18:10 BST (UK)
Hello Cazay

Thanks again for your reply and helpful hints!  Yes I think it will have to be a trip to the record office sometime in the future. That would be Shrewsbury wouldn't it.

William's father was Edward, so that's one definite thing I have.( I have W's marriage cert.1874)

Thanks again

Regards

Beryl
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: Kayzee on Monday 26 March 07 21:03 BST (UK)
Hi Beryla,
              Not sure if you are still looking for William, but I think I can rule out the 1861 entry for you. Edward Hughes is in my tree & he only married Sarah Williams in 1858. She was a widow & had died by the 1871 census. The boys were using the surname Williams (which was of course there proper surname) in 1881 & William can be found (still unmarried) visiting his brother James in Culmington, Shropshire. Brother George is at Angelbank in Bitterley.
    Hope this helps.   
Title: Re: 1861 and 1871 census HUGHES family
Post by: beryla on Tuesday 10 April 07 20:33 BST (UK)
Hello Kayzee
Thanks  for your reply. Sorry for the delay in answering but unavoidable, ....... 'things happening' ! Yes it is helpful ruling dates out isn't it. My William was married in 1874 so that's definitely not him in 1881 is it. The trouble is that he was born just after the 1851 census I think, so I can't place him with his family. I think I have the correct family now in 1841 as there is an Evan Hughes mentioned and Evan Hughes was a witness at William's wedding in 1874 and W's father's name is Edward on his marriage certificate. I've contacted Reg. Offices about William's birth cert. but they cannot pinpoint him. Anyway back to the searching and fingers crossed. Thanks again
Beryla