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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: Trees on Tuesday 09 May 06 17:20 BST (UK)
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We have Ann BATTEN b about 1811on our tree she is on all censuses from 1851to 1881 inclusive with place of birth Sutton Somerset can anyone tell me where this is?We can't find her birth!
Many thanks.
Trees
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www.old-maps.co.uk Grid Ref: 362500,133500
Pauline
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Many thanks Pauline
Trees
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there are a few suttons in somerset, long sutton, bishop sutton etc. but if you google '' sutton somerset '' you will be able to sort out which one you want, kali.
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See if you can find it here:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/parishes.html#S
Kev.
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It has been a long time since I first posted this but this is what I think the case is
Ann BATTEN was born Sutton about 1811 from censuses
Ann's marriage was witnessed in 1830 in Paulton by a George BATTEN
Ann and her husband George Amos witnessed the marriage of an Elizabeth Batten in Paulton Dec 1837 Elizabeth's father was Joseph a labourer
A George BATTEN has been found baptised in Chew Magna in 1816 son of John and Ann abode B Sutton he has been found in Bishop Sutton on the 1841 and 1851 censuses still in Bishop Sutton
So it would point towards Bishop Sutton for Ann's birth but she does not appear in Free Reg can anyone check the Chew Magna register for me please
It would be good to see how Ann George and Elizabeth relate but WONDERFUL to find Ann's parents as she is direct line and has been hidden for so long
Trees :) with fingers crossed that someone can help.
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Hi Trees
There is a baptism at Chew Magna :
Ann Perry Batten, d of Josias & Elizabeth Batten, 31 Dec 1809
Could this be the one?
Steve
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Wow many thanks Steve where did you find that it looks good could Josias be the joseph father of Elizabeth making Ann and Elizabeth sisters
What a good find
Many Many thanks
Trees
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Update thanks to Steve's wonderful work
HOORAY I THINK I HAVE FOUND THEM
Josias & Ann BATTEN had 6 children baptised between 1783 and 1800 in Chew Magna The second child was Josias born 1788 he married Elizabeth Perry 10 Apr 1806 Chew Magna they had 8 children baptised in Chew Magna but living in Bishop Sutton
The first was George 1807 he witnessed Ann's wedding
next was Ann Perry 1809 she married George Amos and they witnessed Elizabeth and Elijah Chiver's marriage
The fifth child was Betty which is a pet name for Elizabeth she was baptised 16 Jun 1817 so she looks like Elizabeth who married Elija Chivers
Your thoughts please do you think this is the family
A very happy
Trees
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Hi Trees
I found the baptism in the transcripts at Yahoo Groups Somerset hundreds - although I do have the Chew Magna fiche for this period. Josias (sometimes Josiah) was a coal miner living in Bishop Sutton. Strangely enough I was in that village the weekend before last & you can't imagine anything more unlikely than a coalfield nearby.
I thought Josias = Joseph when I saw the entry - perhaps he was "Joe" in the family.
Steve
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Thanks Steve,
I have used the yahoo transcripts now to fill the rest of the family in I've got 2 generations back now with siblings wow I can't believe how easy it was. I had forgotten the yahoo group I had used it for my Paulton family most of their transcripts appear on free reg too but for some unknown reason Ann Perry BATTEN was missing from there.
I don't suppose you took any photos of Bishop Sutton by any chance?
Do you have any baptisms before 1781 for Chew Magna?
Trees
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The only photos I took in the village were of the camp site we stayed in - not very interesting genealogically! I took some of Chew Magna church though, as I have plenty of ancestors from there.
I'm at work at present, but will check how far back the fiche I have goes & let you know tomorrow
Steve
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Hi Trees
I've checked the fiche I hold & I have baptisms & burials 1686-1812 and marriages 1686-1781. Please let me know what you'd like me to check - I can't at this stage do a complete search for one name, but if you could point me towards specific names and a general idea of dates I'll do what I can
Steve
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That is a wonderful offer Steve thank you very much
Please don't spend all your precious time on it though I've been looking for our Ann for 23 years so a little more wait wont be a hardship ;D
here is the list so far
Marriage of Josias BATTEN and Ann? first Known child 1781
Baptism of BATTEN children of Josias and Ann before 1781 I just have a feeling there should be more than the 7 I have found from 1781
Baptism of Josias BATTEN about 1760
Death of JosiasBatten (born 1788 last child bap in chew Magna 1800
Death of Elizabeth wife of Josias last child bap in chew Magna 1800
Any of the above would be wonderful
H
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Hi Trees
I think you may have some of this info now via Yahoo groups - I've sent you a PM
Steve
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Many thanks The Pm was most useful
Trees
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hi
Sutton is a small Hamlet close to Castle Cary i made the same mistake thinking it was bishop sutton near chew magna as i found someone with the same name there too
i hope this helps
if you need confirmation try this site
go to www.old-maps.co.uk
on the main page on the left hand side under the picture of the castle you will see a picture that mentions search our gazetteer click this then go to somerset and then the letter s for sutton scroll down and you will find all the suttons listed there
happy searching
martin roe
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Many thanks Martin and welcome to Roots Chat hope you enjoy it here
When you say you have found some one of the same name do you mean Ann Batten?
I am happy with the Ann we found in Bishops Sutton which was much nearer the area of her marriage and martial home But if you have found an Ann of the right age in Sutton that will need looking at
Trees
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Hi Trees,
I hope your Ann had a happy and peaceful marriage with marital harmony and not in martial combat all the time. A wonderful mis type.
Elizabeth
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no im sorry to have confused you no i was looking for a william fear hope you have a happy new year :D
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;D ;D oh dear Elizabeth you have discovered that I am no typist but it is funny
What a shame Martin I thought for a moment we were going to relate
Let us know if we can help your research along
Happy New year with good hunting
Trees
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As i have mentioned i had found a hamlet sutton nr castlecary i have since found that its in the parish of ditcheat whitstone hundred
ditcheat parish records are listed in the hundred but sadly the records only start in 1813`s Another peace of information i have received from a researcher is that it was common at this time to take children back to the mothers ancestral home to have the children christened
i hope this will help anyone else searching for sutton
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I too, have a Sutton, Somerset born ancestor. His name was John Neal/Neil born around 1785 in "Sutton, Somerset". John Neal married a Mary ? and in 1841 they were living in Lyme Regis. In 1841 John was in his 60s, as was Mary. The first child born to them, was in 1820. Was Mary John's second marriage?
I don't know where John and Mary married, as I have been unable to find a marriage. Any help will be very welcome.
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sutton there are several suttons around somerset as i have listed sutton which is in the ditcheat parish
there is also bishop sutton nr chew magna and there is sutton mallet a few miles from bridgwater have you tried looking in the somerset hundreds yahoo groups
lots of parish records published there
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Thank you, Martin. I will check it out!
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Roe of Dublin - can't get my head around this site. Apparently I can't send you a reply to your personal message because I have not posted at least 3 times !!!!!!
Anyway - sorry, but I don't have any details of a Stephen Roe - but there are other Roes of mine in Meath area - possibly a bit later. Will let you know if I ever come across him.
Regards Almo. Out of curiosity are you related to him ? I had quite a few in Dublin, but most were escapees from Co Laois.
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you need to empty your personal message box as i`m being told its full?
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Welcome to Roots chat Almo you will soon get use to the site and find it really is a very useful and friendly place youare correct there is a rule that you have to have made three posts before you can use the pm system either to send or recieve just answer Rose on this topic or add something to the topic or make another topic post and everything will be unlocked and you'll be fine from then on :)
Trees