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Title: Can you identify this house please? Is it The Old Packet House, Worsley?
Post by: Mr Gwynne Chadwick on Tuesday 09 May 06 11:58 BST (UK)
Hi,

I've been requested to help a researcher locate the house of his great grandmother. Having failed to find it in Cheshire or Shropshire, Lancashire is my last hope.

The substantial black & white timber framed building was featured in a painting by H.A. Whittle dated 1856.

Please look at the house and the information found so far, on this web page;
 
http://grc2.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/house_picture.html

A major art dealer, who has sold paintings by the same artist, says that the picture "looks similar to other 19th century views of The Old Packet House, Worsley, Near Manchester, but there were several other half timbered buildings which were much painted by artists at this period"

Many thanks for looking.

Gwynne Chadwick.
RAF Bridgnorth (Shropshire) web site.
http://rafbridgnorth.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk

Title: Re: Can you identify this house please? Is it The Old Packet House, Worsley?
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 09 May 06 12:13 BST (UK)
Hi there,

It's not an area I know, but a Google Images search on "Packet House Worsley" shows several modern photographs of the house.  Unfortunately most of them seem to be taken from the canal side so it's hard to compare them with the painting!  But it may be that one of the local photographers whose work comes up - such as the Worsley Gallery at www.adebroom.plus.com - could help you identify the house in the painting?

Anna
Title: Re: Can you identify this house please? Is it The Old Packet House, Worsley?
Post by: pippalew on Tuesday 09 May 06 14:56 BST (UK)
Hi! I live near the Packet House and I don't think that this is it. Unless there has been a substantial change over the years, the surroundings bear little relation to the picture. I will go up and have a good look round though and let you know if i find anything to indicate otherwise! Cheers, Pippa
Title: Re: Can you identify this house please? Is it The Old Packet House, Worsley?
Post by: tony h on Tuesday 09 May 06 23:19 BST (UK)
Hi Gwynne
Might be a long shot but this is a few miles (6-8) from Worsleyhttp://uk-hotels-guest-houses-bed-and-breakfast.co.uk/Site/Hotel.asp?AccomID=1308
Best wishes
Tony
Title: Re: Can you identify this house please? Is it The Old Packet House, Worsley?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Tuesday 09 May 06 23:53 BST (UK)

I don't think that is the one Tony - that is on the main road from Altrincham to Manchester - but.........

Keith
Title: Re: Can you identify this house please? Is it The Old Packet House, Worsley?
Post by: tony h on Wednesday 10 May 06 00:07 BST (UK)
I think i agree with you Keith, but there is a slim possibility in the look. Always worth a try :)
Tony
Title: Re: Can you identify this house please? Is it The Old Packet House, Worsley?
Post by: liverpool annie on Wednesday 10 May 06 00:24 BST (UK)



Maybe it was the "Gatehouse" of a larger house named the Old Packet House !! ::) ::)

Annie
Title: Re: Can you identify this house please? Is it The Old Packet House, Worsley?
Post by: liverpool annie on Wednesday 10 May 06 00:37 BST (UK)


The Canal is supposed to be in front of it though !!

http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Promenade/5632/Dad/picturesframes/ppframe.htm

http://www.aidan.co.uk/photo2416.htm

Annie  :) :)
Title: Re: Can you identify this house please? Is it The Old Packet House, Worsley?
Post by: Keith Bateman on Wednesday 10 May 06 00:42 BST (UK)
Hi Annie

There a 2 Packet Houses - one in Worsley - one in Altrincham/Broadheath - both old B/w houses.

Just to confuse everyone!!

Keith
Title: Re: Can you identify this house please? Is it The Old Packet House, Worsley?
Post by: Mr Gwynne Chadwick on Wednesday 10 May 06 08:45 BST (UK)
Hi,

First and foremost, thanks to everyone who has contributed to the search for this house. It is appreciated and all comments will be passed onto the researcher.

Based on what I've seen, I personally don't think it is the Old Packet House at Worsley. I can't reconcile modern views of the property to the 1856 painting.

During the last week, more than 450 helpful people on the Shropshire, Cheshire and Lancashire lists have viewed the painting. Thank you. I still feel confident that the house will be identified. Somebody, somewhere, has the answer.

Gwynne.
Title: Re: Can you identify this house please? Is it The Old Packet House, Worsley?
Post by: Phill on Saturday 20 May 06 19:43 BST (UK)
Wardley Hall is a possibility.

http://www.wardleyhall.org.uk/
Title: Re: Can you identify this house please? Is it The Old Packet House, Worsley?
Post by: Phill on Saturday 20 May 06 19:51 BST (UK)
Ordsall Hall is a (possibly stronger) poser.

http://www.salford.gov.uk/leisure/museums/ordsallhall/ordsallhall-learning/ordsallhall-virtual.htm