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Title: Chamberlain - oshawa completed
Post by: kazdel on Saturday 06 May 06 23:55 BST (UK)
Hi

Am trying to find out  any information on an

Edwin Chamberlain brn abt 1887, Whitehall Eng and
Kate Cissy Chamberlain brn abt 1885 in Kings Walden, Herts

They were married in Luton, london in 1906

they then emmigrated to Canada soon after...am not sure which port (possibly Liverpool or Southampton) or even which ship they left on.   Edwin died in Oshawa in 1912 and kate returned to the uk and came back to Liverpool..

I can't find where they lived either..is Oshawa very big?

If any one could shed any light

Thanks
K
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: KarenM on Sunday 07 May 06 00:06 BST (UK)
Hi K

According to Edwin's death certificate:

Date of Death:  November 7, 1912
25 years old
Place of Birth: Whitwell, England
Father:  William Chamberlain
Mother:  Louise
Occupation:  Crater (?)
Place of Death:  Oshawa General Hospital
Cause of Death:  Brights Disease
Name of Informant:  Mrs. Kate Chamberlain
Address of Informant:  26 Duke Street, Oshawa
Disease Causing Death:  Whooping Cough, 2 months
Immdiate Cause:  Brights Disease, 8 weeks

Oshawa is just east of Toronto on Lake Ontario.
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: Daisypetal on Sunday 07 May 06 00:56 BST (UK)
Hi,

With the info from KarenM, this looks possible,

1901 RG13/1300 f.173 p.11 Waldron Hertfordshire

High Street

William CHAMBERLAIN Head  M    44  Blacksmith            Herts Offley
Louisa    "    "           Wife   M    47                             "  "  Whitwell
Bertie     "    "          Son     S    17  Groom & gardener   "  "     "  "
Laura     "    "           Daur   S    15  Nursemaid Dom        "  "     "  "
Edwin     "    "           Son    S    13                              "  "      "  "
Lewis      "    "          Son    S      9                              "  "      "  "
Rhoda CAIN  wifes mother  Wid   77                              "  " Kimpton

Regards
Daisy
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: Daisypetal on Sunday 07 May 06 01:10 BST (UK)
Hello again :),

The only marriage I can find with those names is,

CHAMBERLAIN Edwin Dec Q Hitchin Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire v.3a p.1217, on same page as Kate Cissie HOLTON.

Right year, wrong place :-\

Regards
Daisy
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: Daisypetal on Sunday 07 May 06 02:27 BST (UK)
and again  :)

Possible birth and census,

HOUGHTON Kate Sissie  Sep Q 1884  Hitchin v.3a p.465
(I think the parish of Kings Walden is in the Hitchin registration district)

1891 RG12/1108 f.128 p.24 Kings Walden, Hertfordshire

Darly? Hall

William HOUGHTON          H  M  31  Farm Labourer    Herts Kings Walden
Mary A HOUGHTON         W  M  40  S??? Plaiter          "  "  Offley
Kate C HOUGHTON          D  S    6   Scholar               "  "  Kings Walden
Rebecah M A HOUGHTON  D  S    5     "  "                  "  "     "  "

1901 RG13/1300 f.101 p.19 Kings Walden, Hertfordshire

Darley Hall

William HOLTON  H   M  40 Gen Agri?? Labourer  Kings Walden
Mary Ann  "  "    W  M  50  Char Woman         Offley Herts
Clara        "  "    D   S  19  Laundress Wash            "  "
Kate        "  "     D  S  16    "  "        "  "          Kings Walden

I can also see births of Clara Ward B HOUGHTON and Rebecca Mary Allen HOUGHTON in Hitchin & marriages of Clara Ward B HOLTON & Rebecca Mary A HOLTON in Luton, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire, which may help prove the above  :)

Learning as I go  :), I didn't realise Luton was in Bedfordshire, my apologies to all who live there :)

I hope this look promising

Regards
Daisy
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: kazdel on Sunday 07 May 06 19:47 BST (UK)
Hi

Thank you for this information...thanks Karen the information on the death certificate has loads of information....now i know where they lived at least for a while in Canada..

Daisy you have filled some gaps I had in the UK thankyou

Now just have to find the how and when they got to Canada..  poor Kate came back to the UK on her own after edwins death..

Thanks loads again  :)
Karen
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: KarenM on Sunday 07 May 06 21:55 BST (UK)
Hi K,

They are in the 1911 census.  If you go to www.automatedgenealogy.com you will be able to see the original form.

Looks like they came to Canada in 1910.  They are living in Oshawa and Edwin is a factory worker.

Karen
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: kazdel on Sunday 07 May 06 22:22 BST (UK)
thanks karen

Have just found it..after alot of searching and found that link not long ago :)

posted a note as i can't read the what the columns mean...

maybe i can find the ship they arrived on now.. if 1910 means that is when they arrived?...

thanks again
Karen

Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: KarenM on Monday 08 May 06 01:17 BST (UK)
Hi Karen,

Here's list to the passenger lists on microfilm.  They could have come in through Quebec or Nova Scotia.  They went to Nova Scotia in the winter months and Quebec when the St. Lawrence River was no longer frozen. 

http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-908.003.02-e.html

Karen
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: LadyMcadam on Monday 08 May 06 03:00 BST (UK)
Oshawa is about 100K population.

It is 1/2 hour from toronto.  I live there can I help you with something?

JL
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: kazdel on Monday 08 May 06 19:25 BST (UK)
Thanks Karen

Will have a look...hopefully my pc is going to open the links tonight...fingers crossed...

And thanks:)
Karen
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: kazdel on Monday 08 May 06 19:32 BST (UK)
Hi Lady

Am just trying to find any info for Edwin Chamberlain/ Chamberlin brn abt 1887 and his wife Kate brn abt 1885 ...

Have found Edwins death details and both on the 1911 canadian census.. I thought they left the uk in abt 1906 but seems they arrived in 1910 ....am trying to find how they got there and how Kate got back to the uk in 1912 ish ..

Any ideas welcome :)

Karen
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: KarenM on Monday 08 May 06 19:40 BST (UK)
Hi JL,

Maybe you could advise what cemetery Edwin might be buried in?

Karen
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: LadyMcadam on Tuesday 09 May 06 03:29 BST (UK)
Here try this:

Location: Oshawa Union Cemetery
760 King Street West, Oshawa, Ontario L1J 2L3
Phone: 905-725-0779
Fax: 905-725-0973
Email: unioncemetery@oshawa.ca 
Title: Re: Chamberlain - oshawa
Post by: kazdel on Wednesday 10 May 06 21:21 BST (UK)
thankyou ..lady ..

all is interesting and another step ...or

will have a look..

Karen