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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: lisduggan on Tuesday 02 May 06 19:23 BST (UK)
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My late Brother was out there can any one help out on this .
Irish,
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What do you want to know Irish ? if tell us what you want - maybe somebody can help !
If you just want general information - if you Google - you'll find quite a bit on the subject !
Annie :)
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Irish,
I'm sorry to hear about your brother.
Perhaps this site will help you : http://www.bntva.com/
Thudders
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Hi Thudders
many thanks for your reply re/atomic test I will get on to the web site you sent for info/re /the above topic.
regards
Irish..
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Hi Annie .
re/ the above my late Brother was on HMS Narvik and would like to here from his former shipmates and info re/ the test It his Anniiversary this month.many thanks for your reply.
regards
Irish..
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You are welcome, Irish.
Try registering on Forces Reunited and contacting some of these chaps:
http://www.forcesreunited.org.uk/namearchive/units/HMSNames/HMS-Narvik.html
I hope you find what you are looking for.
Thudders
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Hello Irish My husband was on HMS Warrior which was out there at the same time as the Narvik.Warrior also has a website atwww.hmswarrior.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
Its also worth joining the BNTVA as they sometimes print
letters and photographs sent in by members who were on HMS Narvik.My husband thinks that either the chairman or a member of the committee of the BNTVA was on the Narvik.
Since the 1960s my husband has not enjoyed good health but things have become chronic during the last five years.
New Zealand television have made a documentry about their sailors who were on the some trials.Real eyeopener.
Also thankyou to Graceland who was kind enough to let me know about this discussion Regards Tralee
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Hello Tralee
many thanks for your reply I was sorry to hear of your husband healt please give him my regards My late Brother Died in 1992 age 55yrs he had cancer and only lived for six months I will think of your husband whenI attend mass this weekend. all the best for now.
regards.
Irish
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Thankyou Irish ive sent you an email relating to the various health problems suffered by some of the nucleur test veterans Regards Tralee
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Hello Tralee.
thank you for your reply mylate Brother bart never spoke about atomic test It was not until 1992 when I knew how
sick he was he was .he never married he lived with other late Brother who passed away three years after him Ialso note that one other salior died the same year as did one from HMS Warrior Iwonder how many are still alive from
Narvik/Warrior to day bart died of ThroatCancer .once again
thank you for all help regards to your husband take care.
regards
Irish..
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Thanks for that Irish
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I know personally one person who was stationed
on a island near to Christmas Island,
the only thing he has mentioned was that when the
blast went off he had to turn his back and put a card/hands over his face but he could still see the blast.
I dont know if I have described this well, but he
has only mentioned it once.
I have not named him for privacy issues.
Jinks
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Hello Tralee
your are welcom take care
Irish..
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Hello Jinks
I seen photos taken on board Narvik where some of the crew also had ther backs turn away from from the blast thank you reply.
Irish..
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Hi all. I was on HMS Warrior from Feb-Oct 57 for the Grapple Nuclear Tests as an aircraft electrician and a number of ex Warriors and other service has crossed the bar with various nuclear related illnesses. I now administrate an association for ex Warriors and Narvik also have one run by a couple in Peterborough. There is also a website of interest at
www.christmas-island.org
give it look. The BNTV are a good organisation in seeking compensation for those that have died and have illnesses, its worth contacting.
I would like to hear from any ex Warriors
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Hi grapple
I will log on to the web site you sent and will try and obtain some more info/re/the above topic I appreiciate your help on this all the best for now.
regards
Irish..
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Hi Tralee,
Grapple was on to me yesterday I will log on to the BNTV site to get more info/re/ the test hope to have some more news soon.Take care regards to all .
Irish..
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Hello Irish Todays Mail on Sunday newspaper has an interesting article on the test veterans.Tralee
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Hi lisduggan. Have you found what you were looking for, if not I may be able to help further when I return mid May. I will try and find the Narvik association for you. If there is anything else you require let me know as it would seem that of those you have spoken to I am the only one who was there. Let me know
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Hi Tralee.
unable to get mail on Sunday here thank you for your reply
take care .
regards.
Irish..
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Hi Grapple
Idid try to obatain some info/re/the above some years ago I sent off some letters igot back some replys I then details of my Late Brothers to the Narvik Association in the hope of getting info/back but had no offers It his !14th Anniversary next week Iwould like to know If his Illness was due to the test . many thanks for your help on this .I would Appreiciate any help you can give.all the best
Regards
Irish..
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Hello Irish The article in the Mail on Sunday said that a top London law firm is taking on the case of the veterans.Evidence uncovered in New Zealand now shows that a test on fifty veterans has shown that their chromosomes and genetic make up has been altered as a result of these nuclear tests and that the claim against the MoD is that they were used as human guinea pigs.As well as the British and New Zealanders there are also Fijians involved.The writ against the MoD will claim that the Ministry knew or should have known the potnntially damaging effects of exposure to ionising radiation and that they the MoD failed to consider the health, safety and wellbeing of these servicemen.
These veterans have not been treated well over the years
so lets hope that they have justice soon
Regards Tralee
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Hi folks,
I've scanned the article from the Mail. If anyone would like to read it, PM me with an email address and I'll send it to you.
Mick :)
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Thanks Mick it makes interesting reading dont you think
Regards Tralee
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Hi Tralee
thank you for the print out you read in the mail on sunday
re/ the atomic test after fifty years its about time that some thing is seen to be done for the them at last I am grateful to you all for the help you given me on this issue
regards to all take care.
Irish..
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Hi M.T.H.
hope I got this right thank you for your reply re/ the article in the mail re/ the test Tralee had was on to me about it and sent me the details about It once again many thanks
regards
Irish..
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Sorry to take so long in joining this thread,memory ain't what it used to be.
So out with all the shoe boxes!
May 1956 is the date,printed about in the Liverpool Echo,July 1 1988.The B.N.T.V.A is named,Chairman,Ken McGinley.
My Brother was aboard H.M.S.DIANA at this time,his youngest son was diagnosed earl with sPina Bifida,thank's to an Australin Surgeon his was life was prolonged far beyond the norm.My Brother himself has suffered Heart trouble,3 bypasses I think,but is still getting along "reasonably" well.
One other 'guinea pig',a workmate,is now in later life conscious of accererated tooth decay,all slowly turning to 'chalk
,he doesn't want to know about his bone's!
That's my contribution,join the Association and have your say,get your Rellie's name down.They arent giving up!!
Goggy. >:( >:( >:(
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Hello Goggy .
many thanks for your reply Re/ the Atomic Test 57/58/ I will Indeed contact Mr Mc Ginley on how to join the Assoction and get more information on It It the least i can do for my late Brother will get back to you soon If I get any news all the best for now.
Regards.
Irish..
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Best of Luck Irish!!
Goggy. ;) ;D
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Hi Goggy.
thank you for your reply.
Regards
Irish..
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Hi
I need to log unto to the BNTVA web site can anyone help meout on this please.
Regards. Irish..
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Hello Irish,
I thought I would check the National Archives of Australia for you, as Christmas Island is now an Australian territory (don't know that it was then...) and found a few records which may be of interest to you. If you go to this page:
http://www.naa.gov.au/the_collection/recordsearch.html
And click on "Search Now as Guest", put "atomic Christmas" into the Keyword Search box, you should get 13 hits for items. Try different search terms as well, and you might get more. You can also contact the reference service at the NAA, because there are alot of records in the collection that are not yet described in the online database, and they will be able to help you find more.
I hope that helps :)
Prue
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Hi PrueM
Many thanks for the information re/ atomic test Christmas Island I will log onto that site for some more details. all the best.
Regards
Irish..
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Hi Grapple.
not sure if you are back but i will need some more information from you re/ HMS narivk can you get back to me please
Regards.
Irish..
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Hi Grapple,
My dad went out in '58 for Operation Grapple, he was in the RAF based on the Island. He witnessed 2 A bomb and 3 H bomb tests. he died in '98 aged 60 yrs.
I have his Kitbag, it has a painting of the Frigate bird with an anchor as it's claws and Grapple underneath.
The Palms of his hands were pressed deep into his eye sockets and he had his back to the blast and he saw an xray of his hands.
A top secret document now released stated that they were to test the effects of the bombs on machinary and personel.
Regards,
Rewcastle.
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Hi Rewcastle
Thanks for your reply sorry to here about your father my brother also died 1992 age 55 and he was at sea with HMS Narvik at that time all the best for now
Regards
Irish.
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Hi
My Uncle was on HMS Diana as well. He's never had children of his own and been battling cancer in various parts of his body for many years, yesterday after afew years of peace he was told it's now in his bowel. He won't talk much about what happened so i've been researching it myself. I can't believe this was allowed to happen.
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Hi
thank you for your reply i am sorry to here about your uncle hope things will work out for him like my Brother never once did he talk about what happen out there It was only after his death that i to began to Researching his time on HMS narvik other people sent me some information on this event please let me know if any other info/re/test come to hand all the best for now.
Regards
Irish..