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Title: Cook john /Mckinnan Elspa/Elizabeth
Post by: flag on Sunday 30 April 06 04:23 BST (UK)
John Cook married Elspa Mckinnan 11 Sept 1788 Kilmory Bute.

looking for names of children and any information on same;
and any information on the parents

I only have Mary Cook born 1800 Kilmory. who married JOhn Houston date and place unknown;
their children all born New Cumnock.


thank you
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Title: Re: Cook john /Mckinnan Elspa/Elizabeth
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 30 April 06 12:04 BST (UK)
Hi Flag

From  a parent search on IGI, there is a submitted record for the birth of a William on 19 Sept 1805 in Kilmory to a John Cook and a Elspa McKennan. I noticed also that there are 8 or so other records for the births of children in Kilmory over this period to a John Cook and an Elizabeth McLaherty. All of them are submitted records and I wondered if there was a connection.

Regards.

Monica
Title: Re: Cook john /Mckinnan Elspa/Elizabeth
Post by: Little Nell on Sunday 30 April 06 12:36 BST (UK)
There is another record (extracted) for a son baptised in 1810.  Given that there are so few details even for this, I suspect that the parish register is difficult to read or poorly kept.  I am searching in Bute for a number of families and I'm having difficulties too. 

Nell
Title: Re: Cook john /Mckinnan Elspa/Elizabeth
Post by: flag on Monday 01 May 06 11:10 BST (UK)
thank you little nell and monica lesl.

given that they were married in 1788
there must be a few other children, looks like you are probably right about the parish register.


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Title: Re: Cook john /Mckinnan Elspa/Elizabeth
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 01 May 06 16:42 BST (UK)
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Not sure whether you have ever seen this site. Somebody posted it today. One of the main names is Houston. John H and Mary Cook and their children are included, as is John Houston's parents/siblings etc:

www.chouston.f2s.com/Alltrees/dat140.html#3

No more extra info on Mary Cook's parents/siblings.

Regards.

Monica
Title: Re: Cook john /Mckinnan Elspa/Elizabeth
Post by: moscan on Monday 01 May 06 18:46 BST (UK)
22/09/1805 William Cook

Father John Cook
Mother Elizabeth Mc Kenan
Frame Number Fr292
Parish Of  Kilmory, Shiskine Etc
Gros Reference Number 554/00 0001

01/01/1810 another birth... no name or sex but same parents

19/02/1815  John Cook

not sure if you have the death of Mary Houston, but its listed as February 27th 1884 in New Cummock Ayr aged  83 and it confirms the parents as being john cook farmer and Elizabeth MacKinnion

Best wishes

Mo
Title: Re: Cook john /Mckinnan Elspa/Elizabeth
Post by: flag on Tuesday 02 May 06 06:53 BST (UK)
Hi Monica
Yes, I have seen the Houston  Site

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Title: Re: Cook john /Mckinnan Elspa/Elizabeth
Post by: flag on Tuesday 02 May 06 07:06 BST (UK)
thank you Mo,

John cook 1815 is he listed with the same parents ??


I had  the death of Mary Cook looked up by a researcher some years ago.

I was given 
Mary Houston, widow of John houston, farmer
1884 January 27, 4h 45m aged 83
Auchengee Cottage
F. JOhn Cook
M. Elizabeth M/S MacKinnon, dec.
Cause: Pluro pneumonia, 8 days, as cert by R G Herbertson, surgeon
Inf: William Arthur, son-in-law, present.   

Query:
I have the date of death as 27 January 1884
you have 27th February, 1884.

which is correct??

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Title: Re: Cook john /Mckinnan Elspa/Elizabeth
Post by: moscan on Tuesday 02 May 06 13:44 BST (UK)
the John Cook was listed as being son of John Cook and Catherine MacKinnon too close not to be a transcription error.. may be worth checking out the actual register entry will post the reference number later, am actually in work having a quick rootschat break lol....  and cannot access my own computer just now... will check it later and contact you again..

as for the January/February will check later too and let you know.

Best wishes

Mo
Title: Re: Cook john /Mckinnan Elspa/Elizabeth
Post by: moscan on Tuesday 02 May 06 19:11 BST (UK)
it was JANUARY ... that will teach me to stay up looking at web pages till all hours... mind and vision went ...

as for John Cook born 1815 the numbers are Frame Number 179 and GROS reference number 554/00 0001 it does say John Cook and Catherine McKinnon in parish of Kilmory.. I felt the time frame and coincidence of surnames meant it should be passed on.

I looked at the 1841 census and there are 12 John Cooks in Kilmory... oldest is 60 (as per the census transcription) a farmer.

best wishes

Mo
Title: Re: Cook john /Mckinnan Elspa/Elizabeth
Post by: flag on Wednesday 03 May 06 01:23 BST (UK)
thank you Mo, for your very kind assistance.

I also stay up late, and try not to turn the  computer on at night for that reason, the mind clouds over when it gets to midnight and after,  but in saying that the computer is like a magnet and draws one to it.

as you say John  Cook's birth  is very similar could  be another son.


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