RootsChat.Com
England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: MINOR on Saturday 16 October 04 17:48 BST (UK)
-
I have not been able to trace a birth or baptism record for WILLIAM DODSWORTH, born 1837. Census records show his place of birth as variously, Scruton and York.
I wrote to Harrogate, but the only record for William Dodsworth they found was a death in 1840, aged 4.
Can anyone suggest where I might look next?
-
Hi Minor,
I am not sure if this is your man. It does not seem to be an unusual name! Hope it helps, Frances
DODSWORTH, William Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 10 Jul 1838 Recorded in: York, Yorkshire, England
Collection: St Maurice
Father: Henry DODSWORTH
Mother: Mary
Source: FHL Film 1068537 Dates: 1813 - 1874
-
No sorry, it was kind of you to take the time, but the William Dodsworth I am looking for gave John Dodsworth as father on his marriage certificate.
-
Hello Minor,
I not quite sure how this works as it is my first time, I have a William Dodsworth who was born in Spennithorne North Riding Bapt 29/12/1822 his father's name was John Dodsworth. I also have connections to the Baister family from Hawthorn Co Durham.
Any use to you ?
Rids
-
Hi Rids
The names certainly both appear in my tree.
My great g grandfather was William Dodsworth. He is from my paternal line, my Nana being a Dodsworth.
Also in the paternal line, Elizabeth Baister, born 1846 in Haswell, married Thomas Clavering in 1863 at Seaham Harbour. Let me know if you see a connection.
Minor
-
Found a William Dodsworth
September Quarter 1838 Born Northallerton
24 (XXIV) 363
Probably reason they couldn't find it is because it is mistranscribed as 25 363
Sombody doesn't know there Roman numerals
Scruton was in Northallerton registration district from 1837-39 when it went into Bedale
-
Thank you! Progress at last. I'll send for it today.
-
Hi Minor,
Saw your Dodsworth query. Do you have any connection to a "Daisy" Dodsworth? Not sure if this is her real name - found two in the Free BMD listing for 1894 and 1899. I am trying to do some research for my friend who was named after her gm. Not sure if she married properly??? but her married name should of been Gee.
Regards
Valerie
-
Sorry Valerie, but I don't know of any Daisy in my tree.
-
Thanks Minor
-
If anyone has lost a William DODSWORTH who may be of similar age to this one...... please let me know! I have no real certainty of the age of my gt.grandfather who didn't marry gt.grandma! He fathered two children in New Zealand in 1890 and 1892, (my Nana) and appeared on an electoral roll here in 1897....... then.......... that's it.... I can't find him after that, (and have searched NZ and Australain records to no avail). So I have no death record to confirm an age. gt.grandma was born in 1850, and firstly married a man many years her senior, so a chap ten years older would have been a "toy-boy" in comparison!!! <vbg>
I "think" he may have arrived in Victoria, Australia, and then came onto NZ during the gold rushes of both countries, (1870s) but neither shipping record gives more than an age commensurate with a birthdate of 1840, and a birthplace of England.
It is possible, that he is the William DODSWORTH born to Henry in York in 1838, as the daughter of Henry did emigrate to NZ, but no family research by relatives of that family has found anything on William beyond his baptism.
My only other "clue" is that gt.grandma had a tendency towards strong naming patterns in her brood of six children. Her son to William was named Alfred, but it just may have been fashionable by then. (Oddly she had a step-son named that, but I think there was a big rift in that family, and highly doubt he'd be the name-sake!)
-
If anyone has lost a William DODSWORTH who may be of similar age to this one...... please let me know! I have no real certainty of the age of my gt.grandfather who didn't marry gt.grandma! He fathered two children in New Zealand in 1890 and 1892, (my Nana) and appeared on an electoral roll here in 1897....... then.......... that's it.... I can't find him after that, (and have searched NZ and Australian records to no avail). So I have no death record to confirm an age.
Gt.grandma was born in 1850, and firstly married a man many years her senior, so a chap ten years older would have been a "toy-boy" in comparison!!! <vbg>
I "think" my William may have arrived in Victoria, Australia, in 1869 aboard "Gothenburg", took up goldmining there and then came onto NZ in 1876 aboard "Arawata", but neither shipping record gives more than an age commensurate with a birthdate of 1840, and a birthplace of England.
It is possible, that he is the William DODSWORTH born to Henry in York in 1838, as the daughter of Henry did emigrate to NZ, but no family research by relatives of that family has found anything on William beyond his baptism.
My only other "clue" is that gt.grandma had a tendency towards strong naming patterns in her brood of six children. Her son to William was named Alfred, but it just may have been fashionable by then. (Oddly she had a step-son named that, but I think there was a big rift in that family, and highly doubt he'd be the name-sake!)
Finally, although William on "Arawata" was a miner (gold, probably), my gt.grandfather was farming on a small land-holding in the 1890s. That's not an unusual move for emigrants to the colonies, and possibly he had a rural upbringing, but was struck by gold-fever!
-
Hi Minor,
Would this William Dodsworth be the son of John and Ann (Wright) who were married in Bedale in1829 ?
We are researching William's brother George (b 1841).
Regards,
Dave
-
Yes, we are researching the same line, though I have'nt got any further back as yet.
William moved further North, to Co Durham, as did his brothers, I think.
-
We've gathered some info on William from the 1841,1861-1891 censuses. We know his wife was Hannah - do you know if her maiden name was BARR ?
If so can you explain where the TEMPLE connection came from (ie first son named John Temple DODSWORTH) ?
-
William Dodsworth married Hannah Temple, born 1840 in East Hetton (now Coxhoe), daughter of James Temple and Isabella Riddell.
I have the marriage certificate, but everything is packed away at the moment, due to re-decorating.
They were married on 29 May 1863 in Kelloe. William died of apoplexy on a visit to his son's home at West Cornforth on 27/04/1897.
-
helo came across your dodsworth query by chance. I have a John Dodsworth born abt 1804 Yorkshire. I believ that his wife was called hannah, they had about five children around the helperby/brafferton area, one including ann dodswoth born 1846. she later went onto marry an alfred calvert. if you recognise these names please get in touch.
thanks
mark
-
hello my gg grandmother was ann dodsworth who was born abt 1846 in yorkshire. her father was a john dodsworth and ann had I believe a brother called george. Im wondering if we are connected. Ann went onto marry an alfred calvert and also moved up to county durham
-
William's wife was Hannah Temple. I am in the process of moving house and all my f.h. paperwork is put away, so I have'nt the further details, sorry.
-
Hi
Probably no use but I have a THOMAS DODSWORTH in my tree. Born 1819 in Malton, son of Thomas Dodsworth and Frances Coultas. I have the REAL, ACTUAL [/i]certificate of his marriage to Jane Ruddock of 21st December, 1839.
He is one of several siblings - Ann, Sally, Richard, Jane, Coultas, THOMAS, Martin, William, James and Frances - and then had several children of his own by Jane - William, Jane, Thomas, Sarah (who married my ancestor, George Pashby), Elizabeth, John and James.
As I said before, probably unconnected, but you never know ...
Roger ;)