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General => The Common Room => The Lighter Side => Topic started by: jeny on Monday 24 April 06 21:22 BST (UK)
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One has the annotation of "mother" in my grandmothers album so that would make her Elsie Anderson.
The other pic has Uncle Steve and Auntie Gladys" underneath.
They look the same, have the same shirt on?
I'm not aware that Elsie has a sister called Gladys ???
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I would say the blouse is not the same. On the one the collar has a more square corner than the other. Also the buttons on one could be with holes and the other the type with the "hole" moulded on the back. The shoulder gathers look different too with one with more defined pleats and the other just gathers. The one lady has more pointed plucked eyebrows near her nose too, so the photos are not taken at the same time. They could be the same person or sisters.
Unfortunately having hit the reply button the photos are not visible so I can't say which feature is on which photo!
I am not sure that is any help!
daff
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does one not look like 2 buttons are done up and the broach is lower?
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The vital measurements on the face are not quite the same. I would say that they are different people but related.
David
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It's hard when they are being viewed at slightly different angles but they look as if they are the same person to me.
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this is a pic of elsies husband when hes older. does it look like him?
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I would say that the two women in the top photos were posibly sisters but am not too sure about the men in the bottom photos
Carol
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For ease of comparison.
Sharon
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Definitely not the same person, look at the eyebrows!Different shape, different length. I would say they are related but not the same person.
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The nose of the lady on the right hand side is slightly upturned compared to the other one too!
Kerry
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hmmm they do seem different next to each other... wonder who aunty gladys is.... ???
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I think they look like sisters.
Andrew
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No I think the eyebrows are different. They look similar but I don't think it's the same lady. Very pretty girl though.
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I think they are sisters.
Jeny where abouts in Lincolnshire are your Hare's from?
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I'm torn on this one. They look so similar to me, apart from the eyebrow situation....the lady in the top photo does look slightly older than the second one. Maybe it's the same lady and she started plucking her eyebrows? :P Although the clothing and hair are so similar it would indicate the time between the two pics wasn't great.
Hmmmm...I don't think that's helped at all, has it ;D
Prue
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I think plucking would not have led to her having a thicker "mid-section" of the eyebrow than before. I really think the eyebrows are different shapes and the faces do look different to me.
Although I recently had to have two lots of passport pictures taken as the first lot (please God!!!) looked nothing like me!
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The noses are different. However they do look very similar and the photos look like they are taken around the same time. The woman in the 2nd photo looks younger, it's hard to tell how much younger though but I could see how she could be more than 5 years younger.
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;D Mrs Lizzy - I once saw a humourous travel book called "When You Start to Look like your Passport Photo, It's Time to Go Home"! I can SOOOOO relate to that. My current photo makes me look like a ghost, and unfortunately unless I "lose" it, and pay a fine for doing so >:( I'm stuck with it till 2013. Oh well!
Anyway, back to the ladies....yes, I think you're right about the eyebrows. Also, having had a better look, their chins and earlobes look slightly different, and the hairstyles (but of course they can change from day to day). Definitely different blouses.
The remainder of their faces are very much alike though. They have to be sisters, I think.
Prue
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I do they think they are related but not the same person.
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conundrums. perhaps its my grandmothers mothers sister. i havent got her on any list so far though.. gona check some BDM's now :D
My Hare is Charles and comes from Brigg (not looked into that too far yet)
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The noses are different.
i agree-but closely related
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Ok am stuck, I AGAIN cant find anything on Ancestry.
Details of that family in 1901
14 Gough St, Middlesbrough
John W Anderson Head 31 Down Holme, Yorks Worker
Eliza Anderson Wife 31 Stapenhill, Derby Undefined
Elsie Anderson Daughter 5 Middlesbrough Undefined
Norman M Anderson Son 2 Middlesbrough Undefined
Elsie is one of the ladies above. Gladys was either not counted on that census or was born after that census was taken
View Record Gladys Anderson 1896 Jan-Feb-Mar Middlesbrough (1875-1968) Co. Durham, North Riding Of Yorkshire
View Record Gladys Anderson 1902 Oct-Nov-Dec Durham (1837-1938) Co. Durham
View Record Gladys Anderson 1903 Jul-Aug-Sep South Shields Co. Durham, Tyne And Wear
I'll have to ask my mothers aunt about her!
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I have had a very good look at both photos with the aid of a 'glass' and I think you will find they arre the same person - the photos were probably taken some time apart, and that explains the difference in the eyebrows. If you look at the bridge of the nose, you will see a small 'bump' about 1/2" below the eyebrow. This could have been a break but would hardly be genetic.
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Hi,
I agree with Ticknall , I also think it is the same person taken at different times in their life.
The picture on the left (or top) looks older by a couple of years. Eyebrows change - she probably started plucking them when she got older as a lot of women do. Nose change - the younger woman has her head/face slightly tilted upward - while the older one is looking at the camera at a very level postion. I don't think a nose would look exactly the same in two photos if the heads are in a different angle as these photos are . It's very hard to tell if it's the same person or not the same person when they are taken at different angles. I never look the same person in a lot of my own photos myself.
Regarding the "mother" and "aunty Gladys" wording under the pictures , do you know if the album changed hands in the family? Say for instance the album was not originally your grandmother's album but it was her first cousins album which later got passed onto your grandmother for some reason, maybe her first cousin died so she inherited her album -And then your grandmother added photos to it too.
Is the handwriting on both pictures written in the same style as each other, written by the same person? If not it may explain why one photo says aunty and the other says mother. It still doesn't explain why she is called Gladys though of course, if you can't find a sister of your grandmother's mum with the name Gladys - unless it's your grandmother's first cousin's (on your grandmothers father's side ) mum and the first cousin wrote the word mother - then on the other photo your grandmother wrote "aunty". Maybe check your grandmother's father's family too to see if her father had a sister called Gladys. Just some totally wild thoughts for you.
Another thought; Is the wording written on the pages of the album or the photo's themselves? If it's on the pages, perhaps the photo's have been taken out of the album at some point in time and then put back in their wrong position.
If It's not the same person, they almost look like identical twins to me. They look so very,very alike to me
:)
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Considering that eyebrow plucking really took off around 1912-1914 i think if it was the same person she would of already had her eyebrows plucked in what some seem to think is the earlier photo.A single woman is more likely to make the effort! They look very similar but when you look at the photos together, as i have said before, there are definite differences. A lot of young women looked similar then as style dictated. There are lots of opinions on this so i dont think there is a definite answer.
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No I think the eyes are different too.
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I'm almost certain it was my Grandma who made the album and my mam spoke to her aunt (my grandma's sister today.
Auntie Gladys (married to Uncle Steve) is my Great Grandmothers cousin. Which doesn't help matters at all.
My Great Grandmother is Elsie Anderson she had brothers Norman b1899 and Harryb1901 and sister Doris b1903.
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I don't think they are the same person. It's the earlobes. they are very different. But I do think they are related.
Sandie
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Two different women, but very closely related.
Barbara 8)
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apparently they re cousins
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Always look at the ears first.
Not the same ladies ,as one has larger Lobes.
Springbok
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;D Mrs Lizzy - I once saw a humourous travel book called "When You Start to Look like your Passport Photo, It's Time to Go Home"! I can SOOOOO relate to that. My current photo makes me look like a ghost, and unfortunately unless I "lose" it, and pay a fine for doing so >:( I'm stuck with it till 2013. Oh well!
When I find the offending photos (and the better version I took the very next day!) I will scan them and post them. I couldn't possibly have travelled using the first lot - I looked thoroughly disreputable and any sensible police officer would have banged me up straight away! Mind you - I do like policemen . . . !