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Title: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: millerina on Thursday 20 April 06 16:41 BST (UK)
Just in case anybody has missed this - The 1841 census has finally arrived on ancestry, including images...enjoy!!

England 1841 (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0e2/)
Wales 1841 (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0e1/)
Channel Islands 1841 (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dy/)
Isle of Man 1841 (http://www.rootschat.com/links/0e0/)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

millerina  :)

Moderator Note: Thanks Millerina, we've now added links to them now :)
Title: 1841 CENSUS Now on Ancestry.
Post by: Isobelruss on Thursday 20 April 06 16:44 BST (UK)
Its here at last TODAY 41 census and its looking good.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Comosus on Thursday 20 April 06 16:50 BST (UK)
I don't see it on there ???

Andrew
Title: Re: 1841 CENSUS Now on Ancestry.
Post by: kerryb on Thursday 20 April 06 16:52 BST (UK)
Wow at last!

Mind you they kept that quiet, I ticked a box sometime ago to have an email sent to me when they go online!!

Kerry
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: millerina on Thursday 20 April 06 16:53 BST (UK)
Try clicking on "recently added databases"  ;) ;D

millerina
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: kerryb on Thursday 20 April 06 16:53 BST (UK)
Andrew

I did a search on someone I knew is on the 1841 and in the results page it came up at the bottom of the census records.

Kerry
Title: Re: 1841 CENSUS Now on Ancestry.
Post by: CatOne on Thursday 20 April 06 16:55 BST (UK)
Ok, why havent I got the 1841 census on my ancestry???  ???
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Comosus on Thursday 20 April 06 16:57 BST (UK)
I found it.  They haven't put it up on the UK census collection section yet but if you do a search on all the censuses at once, there's an option to select only the 1841 census.  I almost always search by clicking on whichever census I'm looking for like 1871, then search on the 1861 etc.  I don't tend to use the other search facility which is why I didn't find it initially.

Thanks millerina (my mum will go crazy when she gets back today to find out it's been released!)

Andrew
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Comosus on Thursday 20 April 06 17:01 BST (UK)
Sneakily found the direct links ;D

England 1841: http://www.rootschat.com/links/0e2/
Wales 1841: http://www.rootschat.com/links/0e1/
Channel Islands 1841: http://www.rootschat.com/links/0dy/ 
Isle of Man 1841: http://www.rootschat.com/links/0e0/ 

Andrew


Moderator Comment: Links now modified to originate from RootsChat  ;)
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: annaandchester on Thursday 20 April 06 17:01 BST (UK)
Thanks for letting us know

Anna x
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: CU on Thursday 20 April 06 17:32 BST (UK)
Thanks for letting us know. ;D
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: annaandchester on Thursday 20 April 06 17:33 BST (UK)
I hope it doesnt crash with all of us doing a mad 1841 hunt

Anna x
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Tati on Thursday 20 April 06 18:00 BST (UK)
THANKS MILLERINA  8)  8)
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Paul E on Thursday 20 April 06 18:24 BST (UK)
Thanks, Millerina!  That's my night spoken for!!!! :)

Off to search ...

Paul
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Anette Flewers on Thursday 20 April 06 18:48 BST (UK)
Woop! Woop! Woop!
thanks for letting us know - I've been watching for it for days and it had slipped right past me!

Well, that's a carry out for tea tonight because I'm going to be looking at the 1841!

Netty
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: moscan on Thursday 20 April 06 18:58 BST (UK)
Wooooooohoooooooooo.... and there I was planning an early night...

was about to go and sort out dinner...

yes take out sounds good...

See you all with matchsticks under my eyes...

Thanks Millerina for the heads up... I too had ticked the box to be let know...

and thanks Andrew for the URLs

Best wishes

Mo
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: RuthieB on Thursday 20 April 06 19:12 BST (UK)
Yes, indeedy!!! Thanks very much - have rushed out to get munchies to see me through the long night ahead

Many ,many thanks....


RuthieB
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Elliebob on Thursday 20 April 06 19:39 BST (UK)
Well that's me settled for a long night when I had planned to go to bed early!!

Thanks for letting us know.  I had asked to be e-mailed when it was up but haven't received anything so far.

Ellen
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: dwalin on Thursday 20 April 06 19:54 BST (UK)
woooohoooo.,yippie.
im happy kids back to school next week.
me and the pc and 1841 ahhhhhhh bliss.
 ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* ;D ;D ;D ;D
dwalin
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: kerryb on Thursday 20 April 06 19:59 BST (UK)
If only there were other things that could get us as excited as the launch of the 1841.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Kerry
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Romilly on Thursday 20 April 06 20:19 BST (UK)
Many thanks for the tipoff Millerina!

I've already found some of mine...

Romilly.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: panda40 on Thursday 20 April 06 20:22 BST (UK)
Thank for the tip. have found 3 missing siblings not on the 1851 census. Off now to check BMD records as i have run out of ink already!!!!
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: bearkat on Thursday 20 April 06 20:25 BST (UK)
Great........but where are my ancestors hiding?  Have only found one so far >:(
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: annaandchester on Thursday 20 April 06 20:28 BST (UK)
I have found a few including someone who I had been told wasnt on the 1841 only to find that they were!

Anna x
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: devongirl on Thursday 20 April 06 20:31 BST (UK)
Thanks Millerina

Went straight to Ancestry and in minutes found an elusive ancestor I have been looking for, for around ten years.     :'(  (these are tears of joy!)

Thats my weekend spoken for..

Daisy ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Romilly on Thursday 20 April 06 20:41 BST (UK)
Thanks Millerina
Went straight to Ancestry and in minutes found an elusive ancestor I have been looking for, for around ten years.     :'(  (these are tears of joy!)
Thats my weekend spoken for..
Daisy ;D ;D ;D ;D

So pleased for you Daisy!!!

(I think we're all going to be busy for the next few days:-)

Romilly.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: GeoffP on Thursday 20 April 06 20:59 BST (UK)
Great news, I hope that I can now trace some elusive family and knock down some brickwalls. A busy night as I only just read the posting. Thanks for the info.
                                                                        Regards
                                                                                  Geoff
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Simon G. on Friday 21 April 06 02:50 BST (UK)
I think I just woke the house up...I just shouted out in delight when I read that. :P ;D
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Jaki on Friday 21 April 06 03:42 BST (UK)
And here i am at work without my credit card ... or the list of people i want to find. Hurry up knock off .... got things to do ... lol

Jaki
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Cell on Friday 21 April 06 05:10 BST (UK)
Yipeeee!!!!!!!!! ;D
I've been waiting for this for ages for some of my lines in carmarthenshire ( it's the only year I haven't got on discs for the area), funny I don't think my emails from ancestry have mentioned it at all - they slipped that one in quietly haven't they.

I'm not going to get any work done today now lol... I'm back off to ancestry, I've already found one of my lot - now to find the rest of the others

Thanks for letting us know! yippee again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol.



Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: stonechat on Friday 21 April 06 09:21 BST (UK)
Found My Gt Gt Gt Gt Grandfqather on maternal line still alive Blimey
Also already a potential solution to brickwall, a gt gt grandfather has an apparent brother with him AND a brther I knew about has someone of older generation staying

THis is what I have been waiting for

Bob
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: wheeldon on Friday 21 April 06 09:43 BST (UK)
Thanks - I had missed that one.  Right, I'm off to get the paints out and put a video on for my 4 year old so that I can have a search.

You have to get your priorities right, don't you?  ;)
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: dwalin on Friday 21 April 06 11:01 BST (UK)
i couldent wait till monday lol  ::)
i have just paid sixteen yr old to take out five yr old to m/c for lunch .
with strict instructions to walk slow . :o
dwalin
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: MarieC on Friday 21 April 06 11:48 BST (UK)
Just shows what a mob of obsessives we are - all rejoicing (including me!)  But I don't actually have Ancestry, so will have to possess my soul in patience till I can get the info checked that I need!!!  8) 8)

In the meantime - enjoy, all you lucky people who are right into it as I type!!!  ;D

MarieC
Title: 1841 census on-line at ancestry
Post by: tulstig on Friday 21 April 06 12:55 BST (UK)
I've just been searching on ancestry and have found tht the 1841 census is now included.

Already I've been able to check out a couple of family queries, and sorted out a couple of parents -  ;D  ;D
 oh no -looks like I'll be stuck to the PC even more now following everyone up for 1841.  :D  :D

Does anyone know if it has full coverage?

Mark
Title: Re: 1841 census on-line at ancestry
Post by: Rosemarie on Friday 21 April 06 13:36 BST (UK)
Mark

After reading your post I went straight to the Ancestry site and, first of all to check it out, I tried some names I already have from the 1841 census without any success. Tried absolutely anything but no joy.

Anybody else having probs?

Marie.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Rebecca Steele on Friday 21 April 06 14:04 BST (UK)
I only just found this thread ...... and haven't got my e-mail from ancestry either >:(

Oh well, off to have a quick look!

Marie,

Try clicking on 'Recently added databases' and it should be on there.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Rosemarie on Friday 21 April 06 15:51 BST (UK)
Thanks Chui

It is apparently there with the other years in the UK Census Collection on the Ancestry site - the year comes up but whoever I search for just isn't found even those I've already seen on 1841 elsewhere. Looks like I'll just have to be patient which isn't in my nature!

Regards

Marie.

 
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: tulstig on Friday 21 April 06 15:59 BST (UK)
Hi Marie,

Don't want to teach grandmotehr to suck eggs (or something liek that) but have you tried changing the spelling? In 1851 onwards one of my ancestors has same spelling, but in 1841 it changes, yet it's defo him as rest of family are same throughout,

Mark
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Rosemarie on Friday 21 April 06 16:15 BST (UK)
Hi Mark

It's always worth checking even obvious things but yes I did try different spellings and several different surnames (including smith and jones even though I don't have them in my family tree) without success.

In the past I've found Hatchell as Matchell, Connolly as Elly and Hunley, Conley, Conoly, Connelley etc etc.

I'll go off and have another go on Ancestry now.

Cheers

Marie.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: kerryb on Friday 21 April 06 16:41 BST (UK)
I wonder if they have kept quiet this time to stop the problems of the 1901!!!!

Kerry :)
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: stonechat on Friday 21 April 06 16:46 BST (UK)
Frustrating but didn't find the first 3 families I looked for, I did later find the first gt gt gt g'father at home but gt gt gfather away, have to find him yet , just maybe he might be with more rellies (only 9 yrs)

Anyone else find the search ares difficult
I want (for example) to search for someone in Marple
I have to enter Stockport, then when you look at each page, you can see where it is.

Tonight will try to find more of family in Yorkshire - mostly Lee family so hard to find.

Don't you find it even harder in an area where you are not very familiar with local geography

Bob
Title: Re: 1841 census on-line at ancestry
Post by: Koromo on Friday 21 April 06 17:18 BST (UK)


Does anyone know if it has full coverage?


There are bits missing. For example in Middlesex:

Piece 668    Middlesex    
    Township: West Finsbury
    Township: Golden-Lane
    Township: Old Street
    Township: Whitecross-Street

Piece 680   Middlesex   
    Parish: Paddington
    Parish: Kensington (part)

Piece 690    Middlesex
    Parish: Blatherwycke
    Parish: Bulwick
    Parish: Bulwick Short Leys
    Parish: Deene   
    Township: Brompton
    Township: Kensall Green (part)

It's only to be expected that some pages got lost or destroyed. Shame about Paddington.  :-\

K.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Rosemarie on Friday 21 April 06 17:51 BST (UK)
It makes absolutely no difference what I type in - any name, any county - exact or ranked - nothing at all for 1841. I'll give up until I get an email from Ancestry.

Marie.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: suey on Friday 21 April 06 19:01 BST (UK)

Phew!!!!!! It's just come up on my Ancestry Home Page, 1841 England and Wales. It was'nt there half an hour ago :-\
I've been struggling to find it...have had a quick try and it seems to be working OK.

Suey
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Comosus on Friday 21 April 06 19:19 BST (UK)
I have seen many mistakes, usually the same ones over and over again.  In some cases, where there is a single slash indicating another family group/servants in the same house, they count it as a new house.  Also, in some cases they are under a different parish to usual.  I was searching for someone in Greetland.  It usually comes under Greetland, Elland or Elland cum Greetland in the civil parish field.  However in the 1841 it came under Halifax, which threw me for a bit.

I've been able to find many of my ancestors on the 1841 already, I just need to dig deeper.  For all I know, their parents could be on there too.

For the record, my GGGGGG Grandparents are on the 1851 census :)

Andrew
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: TracyL on Friday 21 April 06 19:52 BST (UK)
I'm finding some of it very hard to read.  I have found my Tiplady family in Luton, but apart from a couple of names, it is so faded I can't read it.  Shame as there are two extra people on it than 1851 - either children that may have died or something more exciting!  Can read parents and two children, but even the transcribers gave up on the rest! ???

If anyone has better eyes it's HO107/4/24 f10 p14!
Tracy

Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Rosemarie on Friday 21 April 06 20:09 BST (UK)
Hi Tracy

I still can't get anything up for my main area of interest but I was able to see your Tiplady's in Luton and I agree the images are very poor - I was able to read only a couple of names too.

It'd be interesting to know how these compare with copies of the 1841 which some Rootschatters already have on disc. I have some images for some Lancashire ones which I've saved from a pay-per-view site but I'm unable to compare them at present because  they're just not coming up on Ancestry yet.

Marie.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: TracyL on Friday 21 April 06 20:13 BST (UK)
Do you think this is the reproduction or the originals that are so faded?  I suppose the transcribers work from reproductions so have the same problems as us?

By the way, thanks to this thread for highlighting the 1841 was available - I didn't know until I read it this morning.  Even then, when I went on the Ancestry there was no obvious sign of it, although now it has appeared on the home page.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: TracyL on Friday 21 April 06 20:14 BST (UK)
p.s.  Thanks for looking for me Marie!
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: CarolBurns on Friday 21 April 06 21:58 BST (UK)
Hello everyone


Now I'm gone to search for EVERYONE!!!!

YeeHaaaa!!!   ;D  ;D  ;D

Oh what happy bunnies there are on here tonight

Carol
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: w105uk aka Margi :-) on Friday 21 April 06 22:09 BST (UK)
wow...........where is my e.mail then  ???

still been waiting for this.....will now go and renew membership  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Simon G. on Friday 21 April 06 22:21 BST (UK)
Had some great successes already, and some major surprises that I hadn't expected in a million years.  It's amazing how some things can just knock you for six. :(
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: CarolBurns on Friday 21 April 06 23:09 BST (UK)
Found a few already with parents names which I didn't have before so that's a good start though I still can't find my Great x 3 Grandad, John Price from Liverpool.

Tried every one that came up and still can't find him. Even his wife, who I am sure he had married by then, doesn't show up

Biggest surprise was finding West derby, Liverpool listed under Salford!

Oh well back to the searching in a few mins. Just need to rest my eyes from all that difficult to read writing

Good Luck to everyone else who is looking as well

Carol
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: stonechat on Saturday 22 April 06 07:23 BST (UK)
Found my Booth family was entered by eumerator as Both

I had to search manually through Marple to find Hawk Green to find them

Bob
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Jean McGurn on Saturday 22 April 06 09:06 BST (UK)
Have found some of my families - Harris, Stables even Stackhouse   ;D but so far unable to find the McGurn's apart from one family who may or may not be mine.  :-\  So it's looking like they came over to England between 1841 and 1851. Oh well just another brick in the wall.  :'(

Having looked at loads of images I must say that the Transcribers have had a very hard job and I would say all praise to them.   :)

Jean
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Hackstaple on Saturday 22 April 06 09:26 BST (UK)
Do you think this is the reproduction or the originals that are so faded?  I suppose the transcribers work from reproductions so have the same problems as us?

I understand that the 1841 census was completed in pencil. If that is the case then the images are very good.  8)
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: TracyL on Saturday 22 April 06 09:31 BST (UK)
Incredible they are legible at all then!  The areas of London I have been looking at this morning have all been really clear images - although the writing itself is still quite difficult!

Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: TaffyBlue on Saturday 22 April 06 10:03 BST (UK)
I was so excited when I read the 1841 census was online.  I dashed over to Ancestry,  and began typing in all the names I could think of.

Not found any of them yet.   :'(

I was hoping to smash down a couple of brick walls.  Ah well.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Koromo on Saturday 22 April 06 10:33 BST (UK)

I've been looking for a definitive list of parishes that are found in each Hundred. Some of the counties on the GenUKI pages have listed them, but it would be good if the name of the Hundred appeared on their Registration Districts' pages.

It's quite useful, particularly when the families would marry others in close-by villages. Putting in the Hundred name defines the search criteria better, so that you usually end up searching all villages/parishes in a smaller area (the Hundred) rather than the whole of the county ... if you see what I mean!

:)
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: annes on Saturday 22 April 06 12:03 BST (UK)
In defence of the quality of scans on the 1841 on Ancestry, I have to say that obviously I have been really lucky because the ones I've viewed have been very clear.

In some cases, they're not even scans of photocopies, but scans of the original enumerator's books (complete with yellowed pages), for example the Suffolk parishes of Carlton Colville, Charsfield and Eyke.

Back off to search some more ...

Anne x


Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 22 April 06 12:21 BST (UK)
I have to say I'm having a pretty good morning.  Whoops day, tea break and come and gone!!

So far I have found 90% of those I am looking for.  If I can't find the head of the household I look for a child and I have managed to find them all.

The scans are pretty good I think.

Kerry   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Comosus on Saturday 22 April 06 12:41 BST (UK)
What I like about this is that you have to use parish records too.  You can find children and their parents but usually you can't find grandparents.  Don't forget about the grandparents - they could still be alive.

I'd also like to say, take note of how the people in the family are arranged and be open minded.  I had one family where the ages were (they thankfully forgot to round them) 41 John, 48 Sarah, 18 Joseph, 21 Martha, 16 William, 12 Elizabeth, 13 John, 6 Sarah, 3 Emma, 8 months Jane.  The ages looked fine so I assumed they were all children.  I wanted to know the mother's maiden name as the marriage wasn't on the IGI.  I ordered the birth cerificate and I got it.  It said the parents were Joseph and Martha.  Once I saw that, I realised why they had not been put in order of their age.  As they don't show the relation to the head of the household in the 1841, you need to take much more notice of how the family is laid out on the image.

Andrew
Title: Yippeee 1841 Census on Ancestry
Post by: Laurina on Saturday 22 April 06 14:55 BST (UK)
Just discovered the 1841 Census is now on ancestry ~ happy hunting folks

Laurina
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 22 April 06 15:40 BST (UK)
I've just broken through a brickwall.  I now know the parents of my great x 3 grandfather.  Wippee.  This is great!!!

Kerry
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Comosus on Saturday 22 April 06 15:58 BST (UK)
Congratulations Kerry!  I know the feeling - I've managed to get back another generation on a few lines too.

Andrew
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 22 April 06 16:05 BST (UK)
Ancestry have done a remarkable job on this one compared to other's.  I've had very few problems.  Therefore I commiserate with those who have, mind you I have had to use lateral thinking a few times and look at soundex!

Kerry
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: ijl on Saturday 22 April 06 19:17 BST (UK)
Glad to see so many are having success

Mine is a load of pants up to yet >:( >:( >:(

              IJL
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: stonechat on Saturday 22 April 06 22:59 BST (UK)
Beware there are some missing pages

I already have one family member for the Genealogist in Denton, Lancs, so I have the HO107 etc number

This is missing from Ancestry at present

Bob
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Rebecca Steele on Saturday 22 April 06 23:33 BST (UK)
Glad to see so many are having success

Mine is a load of pants up to yet >:( >:( >:(

              IJL

Me too!

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Was hoping to find a few children untraceable on other censuses, but no luck so far :(

It doesn't help that they didn't say what county they were born in >:( nevermind, I'll keep searching for them.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: MarieC on Sunday 23 April 06 04:35 BST (UK)
I'm very disappointed also - a lot of mine seem to be missing.  Combination of hard to read images and missing pages, I guess!  So far, the 1841 is a damp squib for me!  Congrats to those who have broken through brick walls, and commiserations to those who are like me!!!  :(  :'(

MarieC
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Koromo on Sunday 23 April 06 08:05 BST (UK)

It's taking me a while to properly understand how to fine tune the search on the 1841. For example, I was looking for a family living in Armley, Leeds, Yorks.

If I put Armley in the Civil Parish box, I get no results.
If I put Bramley Ward in the Civil Parish box, I get all the Armley people.
Putting Armley in the Keyword box also gave me all the Armley people.
If I put Leeds in any box, there are too many to sort through.

GenUKI and the Gazetteer of UK Names are getting a bit of a hammering from me at the moment!  :D

K.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Jean McGurn on Sunday 23 April 06 08:24 BST (UK)
I tried that way when looking for a family who originated in Acton Burnell Shropshire. Found there where 2 lots of census pages however they were only 3 pages on each district so trawled through them all. No mention of any families of the name I was looking for.

I actually found another family I am researching by using one name and clicking on the name and then clicking onto  'see others in family'  and was able to confirm I had right one by the other family names.

 So perhaps that could be one way of trying - just in case on census night they were outside their normal district.

Jean

Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Rosemarie on Sunday 23 April 06 10:53 BST (UK)
This is really irritating. Ancestry must be aware of 'chatter' about the confusion and dispappointment this is causing subscribers -  I'm annoyed they haven't sent an email to everybody to explain what's happening about this census. They've ben sending them for some time now to ramp up the interest in 1841 so they should tell us what the problems are and what they're doing to resolve them. I know it's not been 'officially launched' but the reality is that it's there and it's not working properly.

Eventually, I found one of my families by searching on just country and surname but there are over seventeen thousand names, even on 'exact'. I trawled through the screens until I found one member of the family and then was able to see the other members.

All the details are transcribed correctly, Parish etc, but if I enter anything other than country and surname I get nothing.

The good news is that the quality, on this particular image, was excellent and far superior to one I'd seen previously of the same page.

I keep telling myself to leave it until things settle but then my usual impatience takes over and I have another go.

Marie.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: GeoffP on Sunday 23 April 06 12:18 BST (UK)
I agree with all the disappointed. I was excited when it arrived but so far have found none of the families I have been searching for. I am not sure if the pages are not there or the search engine is so vague that I need to go through hundreds of entries. Will keep on trying and hoping.
                           Geoff
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: wheeldon on Sunday 23 April 06 12:38 BST (UK)
Hmmm, I can't find any of my Wheeldons.  There were about 5 families all living on the same street in 1851 but not a trace in 1841.  Perhpas I will have to try and find the street.  :'(
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Rosemarie on Sunday 23 April 06 12:48 BST (UK)
Geoff

The only thing to work with my family was the surname plus England and I noticed you have what I thought was a fairly uncommon name in Moxham so put just that in plus England and up popped more than two huindred.
 
There's a Ann Moxham at Monkton Farleigh and if you then check 'view record' you can see other members of the family.

Cheers

Marie.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Koromo on Sunday 23 April 06 13:00 BST (UK)

Hi Marie

May I suggest that you don't try to put anything in the Birthplace boxes, because the 1841 didn't record the actual birthplace.

For your Moxhams, try putting just the surname, and choose the county Wiltshire for the Residence. You'll get 87 Moxhams coming up.

To refine it further, you could put find out what Hundred your family were living in, and/or what parish (which might be different from the names of towns).

:)
K.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: wheeldon on Sunday 23 April 06 13:09 BST (UK)
I've had a go at just entering Wheeldon and a county but I still haven't got them.

I'm now attempting to find an address through the enumeration districts.

Hmmmm - this could take some time :-\
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Comosus on Sunday 23 April 06 13:26 BST (UK)
I've just found a Mary Grant transcribed as Henry.  You'd think they'd realise their mistake when her age was in the female column ::)

Andrew
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: wheeldon on Sunday 23 April 06 13:28 BST (UK)
Is it the full 1841 census or will they be adding bits on?

I have looked through my records and found that some time ago a kind person did a look up for me and found the family that I am looking for living at Pooles Hole, Burbage - H0107/197/20 Folio 12A.

I seem to have tried every search combination that I can think of but can't seem to track my Wheeldons down.  I would like to look at the original and keep it for my records.

Heeelp - anyone got any ideas please?

Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Comosus on Sunday 23 April 06 13:33 BST (UK)
What are the names/ages of the people you are looking for?

(removed search results due to copyright)

Andrew
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Rosemarie on Sunday 23 April 06 13:35 BST (UK)
Hi Koromo

They're not my Moxhams - I was just trying to help GeoffB.

I know that the place of birth wasn't given in 1841 as I've transcribed several villages from a pay-per-view site last year but it is worth mentioning. It seems with this, at present at any rate, the least information one puts in the better.

Hope we don't have to learn to live with it like it is - it's difficult enough to find things which have been mistranscribed without having to play guessing games about other things as well.

Regards

Marie.
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Jean McGurn on Sunday 23 April 06 13:42 BST (UK)
Anyone looking for Christopher SHAY will find him transcribed as Christopher MARY  ??? ???

Jean
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: wheeldon on Sunday 23 April 06 13:43 BST (UK)
Andrew, how did you manage that?  I must be doing something seriously  wrong.  ???  I been fiddling about with it for hours :-[

I'm looking for -

David Wheeldon b aprox 1787 - apparantly he is shown as being aged 50 in 1841 - wife Anne Wheeldon b aprox 1797 - son Thomas Wheeldon b 1826.

Jacob Wheeldon b 1791

Job Wheeldon b 1801

All should be born Burbage - Hartington Upper Quarter.

Many thanks for your time and help  ;D
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Comosus on Sunday 23 April 06 13:46 BST (UK)
It wouldn't accept the 12a so I just typed in the 197 and 20 in the piece and book boxes.  Then I just clicked next until I found any Wheeldons.

Here you go:
(http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/198/wheeldon0ol.png)

Andrew
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Koromo on Sunday 23 April 06 13:48 BST (UK)

It's indexed as Wheelden. I'm finding I have to use the Soundex option a lot more.

:)
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: wheeldon on Sunday 23 April 06 13:52 BST (UK)
aaaaah, thank you so much Andrew and Koromo.  I wished I'd asked for help last night or at 6 this morning  :-\

thanks again, much appreciated.

Fiona
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Comosus on Sunday 23 April 06 13:56 BST (UK)
No problem Fiona, it makes me feel less guilty about finding so many of mine :)

Andrew
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Laurina on Sunday 23 April 06 14:03 BST (UK)
I found one of my families children appear on the page after their parents ~ they've all been given the surname 'Ann' as the top child was called Mary Ann "

Laurina
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Comosus on Sunday 23 April 06 17:45 BST (UK)
Someone please tell me how this: (http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9302/150pp.gif) can be misread as 65 ???

Andrew
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: jjq on Sunday 23 April 06 18:30 BST (UK)
So far , I have been pretty lucky at finding people on 1841 - but there are 2 still missing.

I have thought laterally/used soundex/ tried writing the name and looking at possible mistranscriptions - but still cant find James Sutton - aged 2 born in Southwark - so it is back to the drawing board. If the moved north of the Thames, maybe it is just my luck that they are in one of the missing areas!! :(

Re-reading previous posts have just had a thought - James's middle name was Thomas, so was his fathers - so will try James Thomas!!

Back to Ancestry......


Jan
Title: Re: 1841 CENSUS Now on Ancestry.
Post by: bitty_matriarch on Sunday 23 April 06 19:16 BST (UK)
Wow at last!

Mind you they kept that quiet, I ticked a box sometime ago to have an email sent to me when they go online!!   Kerry   

Me too!

Pity they've missed a whole chunk of the Cambs/Norfolk border off their 1841 transcription :(  - as they've also done with the 1851.
 
I know my lot are there as I have the Cambs. FHS transcriptions.


(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b27/anniemcc/smilies/Cheers.gif)  Ann

Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Kimi on Sunday 23 April 06 21:54 BST (UK)
As expected, I can't find any of mine.  :'(  The 1841 would have been the answer to all my problems - well, for that year anyway ;D

Kim
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: wheeldon on Sunday 23 April 06 22:03 BST (UK)
Kimi, keep on looking and don't give up.  Have a look at previous posts on this topic and you will probably get some ideas and don't forget to ask for help, which I should have done two days ago  ;)
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Kimi on Sunday 23 April 06 22:14 BST (UK)
Thanks Wheeldon,

I'm still looking now.  I must admit, they were very elusive, but I'll keep trying.

Kim
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: stonechat on Sunday 23 April 06 22:32 BST (UK)
Have now nailed the missing 10 yr old George Jackson, visiting what I believe are aunt's parents, the Oliver's in Brand Side Derbyshire.

It's weird, I still haven't mailed his uncles marriage to the Olver's, I know who I think his Uncle is, I just can't prove it.

Bob

Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Comosus on Monday 24 April 06 00:07 BST (UK)
I've struck another stroke of luck!  I found my Thomas Smith in Leeds on the 1841 (although his son doesn't seem to be on there) but his wife had died and he had remarried.  There were several possible marriages of a Thomas Smith to a Hannah.  I just went onto FamilySearch.org and found his wife's death in April 1837.  There are 2 possible marriages, both in March 1838 and there's only 22 pages between those.  Now I'll have to either rule one of them out somehow (hopefully I find the other couple living with the mother in law or something) or order one and hope for the best.

Andrew
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: hlbradd on Monday 24 April 06 09:48 BST (UK)
Well I found my Sarah Ann Goodrick with both her parents - I knew her mother was Eliza but her father had died before 1851.

and what was the father's christian name I hear you ask:

C R    ::)

Fortunately Eliza had her name in full, 'cos Sarah Ann was S A.

Helen

p.s. fairly sure it was Charles Reuben ;)

Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Kimi on Monday 24 April 06 11:35 BST (UK)
You lucky......lucky people :D at the moment, I'd be happy to find someone that lived in the same street as any of mine  ;D.

kim
Title: The 1841 Census online for searching.
Post by: AndrewMartin on Monday 24 April 06 13:29 BST (UK)
Below is a link to the BBC website who has run an article today announcing the arrival of the 1841 Census online.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4930496.stm

Thought i'd share the news :)
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: kerryb on Monday 24 April 06 14:40 BST (UK)
I've seen a report on the 1841 release on the BBC1 lunchtime news and I've jst received an email from Ancestry informing me of the release.  Bit late, I spent the weekend on it!!!

Kerry
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: stonechat on Monday 24 April 06 14:50 BST (UK)
Ancestry still haven't emailed me yet.

I have found most of the key people now, the task is to resolve some problem issues, probably minor errors I have made. The most difficult part is the Lee family in Yorkshire  there are lots of Goerge and John Lee's, and if Goerge by any chance remarried, itwould be a tad difficult to find him

Seems to me that without birthplace, you recognise people with common names by having known relatives with them

Bob
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: t.hawksley on Monday 24 April 06 14:51 BST (UK)
Yes They are a Bit Slow Ive been Thrashing it since Last Wednesday as most on Here.
Title: Ancestry 1841 now online
Post by: gazza on Monday 24 April 06 15:04 BST (UK)
just in case you did not know already :)
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Romilly on Monday 24 April 06 16:02 BST (UK)
I finally got an email from Ancestry about this today, - rather amusing as I've been looking at it since last week! (And have already found some mistakes:-).

N.B.
Just spoke to the main office at Ancestry on the phone, apparently they are having serious system problems thanks to the announcements in the press over the 1841 Census, they have been bombarded with hits as a result so don't be surprised if you have trouble getting on for the next day or so.

Apparantly Parish Registers are next on their list, - although the indexing of the early registers should make for interesting reading, as the majority of their transcribers are Chinese:-)

Romilly.

Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: kerryb on Monday 24 April 06 16:40 BST (UK)
Parish Registers!!!!

I'll never need to leave my computer again!!!

Kerry  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: stonechat on Monday 24 April 06 16:57 BST (UK)
It'll get really interesting if they start transribing latin documents!
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Simon G. on Tuesday 25 April 06 02:28 BST (UK)
Parish registers??!!  So much for my hopes of having a life ever again... :P
I'd never leave the net. ::)
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: MarieC on Tuesday 25 April 06 04:50 BST (UK)
sgolding

You are so right!  Although looking at the transcription mistakes in the censuses, we will have to leave our computers to check the original fiches to find out what the real names are!!!!  ::)  ::)

MarieC
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Rebecca Steele on Tuesday 25 April 06 08:45 BST (UK)

Apparantly Parish Registers are next on their list, - although the indexing of the early registers should make for interesting reading, as the majority of their transcribers are Chinese:-)


I was wondering what they would do next!

Will probably have to wait ages for the ones I'm interested in to appear ::)

Once they arrive, there'll be no getting me off my computer ;D

Brilliant idea though!

Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Paul E on Tuesday 25 April 06 12:24 BST (UK)
although the indexing of the early registers should make for interesting reading, as the majority of their transcribers are Chinese:-)

Romilly.



I'd stand a better chance of interpreting Chinese script than some of the handwriting I've seen in Parish Registers!

Paul
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: kerryb on Tuesday 25 April 06 12:46 BST (UK)
I read some recently from the 1500s and the terms in brackets were priceless:

Burials:

Robert Pilbeame (Old Robert)

Thomas Pilbeam (a poor man)

I am sure they didn't really mean what I took them to mean!!!

Kerry  ;D
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: stonechat on Tuesday 25 April 06 13:34 BST (UK)
My Varnden family  in the 1841 Census were transcribed as Barricks !
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 25 April 06 13:54 BST (UK)
Parish Register - If it's in Chinese I stand a better chance than Latin,
son did a year in China teaching and has a Chinese partner
who speaks 5 different dialects including Mandarin Cantonese and Taiwanese.
Newbie
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Romilly on Tuesday 25 April 06 14:19 BST (UK)
Parish Register - If it's in Chinese I stand a better chance than Latin,
son did a year in China teaching and has a Chinese partner
who speaks 5 different dialects including Mandarin Cantonese and Taiwanese.
Newbie

We'll all be seeking your assistance then Newbie!!

Romilly. ;)
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: Simon G. on Tuesday 25 April 06 15:52 BST (UK)
Although looking at the transcription mistakes in the censuses, we will have to leave our computers to check the original fiches to find out what the real names are!!!!  ::)  ::)
With any luck though they'd have copies of the original pages scanned, like they have with the census.  That would be so wonderful. :D
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 25 April 06 16:16 BST (UK)
Quote
We'll all be seeking your assistance then Newbie!!

Romilly, Happy to help ;D ;D
as long as its not latin, actually he also speaks Russian...hrrmm now do we have any need of any Russian...
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: MarieC on Wednesday 26 April 06 06:09 BST (UK)
My Varnden family  in the 1841 Census were transcribed as Barricks !

No wonder I can't find some of my Hartleys and Martins.  They are probably transcribed as something totally bizarre!  How on earth did you find them??  You couldn't have thought of looking for them under that name!!

MarieC
Title: Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
Post by: stonechat on Wednesday 26 April 06 06:13 BST (UK)

No wonder I can't find some of my Hartleys and Martins.  They are probably transcribed as something totally bizarre!  How on earth did you find them??  You couldn't have thought of looking for them under that name!!

MarieC

No I knew the probable address

Bob