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Title: Opinions needed about family (Siddle)
Post by: Starry on Tuesday 18 April 06 13:59 BST (UK)
This is what I have (found with help)

Births Dec 1847
SIDDLE  James     Wakefield  22 672

1851 - Wakefield
George Siddle abt 1817 Wakefield Head
Harriet Siddle abt 1816 Wakefield Wife
Sarah Ann Siddle abt 1836 Wakefield Daughter
Charles Siddle abt 1838 Wakefield Son
James Siddle abt 1847 Wakefield Son
George Siddle abt 1850 Wakefield Son

1861 - Wakefield
George Sidell abt 1816 Wakefield Head
Harriet Sidell abt 1815 Wakefield Wife
Jane Sidell abt 1844 Wakefield Daughter
James Sidell abt 1848 Wakefield Son

1871 - Liversedge 
Geroge Siddle abt 1815 Wakefield Head
Harriet Siddle abt 1815 Wakefield Wife
James Siddle abt 1848 Wakefield Son

1881 - Heckmondwike   
James Siddal abt 1854 Leeds Lodger 

1891 - Huddersfield   
James Siddel abt 1850 Wakefield Lodger 

1901 - Wakefield Prison
James Siddle abt 1848  Wakefield Prisoner 


I have James' marriage certificate from October 1881, which gives his age as 24.

I'm wondering if the 1881 James is mine, and if he's the same as the one in the other censuses?
Title: Re: Opinions needed about family (Siddle)
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 18 April 06 16:39 BST (UK)

How does the occupation (for 1881) compare, and what was the address on his Oct 1881 marriage cert?

Pauline
Title: Re: Opinions needed about family (Siddle)
Post by: Starry on Tuesday 18 April 06 17:26 BST (UK)
On the marriage cert, all it says is Dyer living Heckmondwike. His father is George (Deceased), also a Dyer.
Title: Re: Opinions needed about family (Siddle)
Post by: janan on Tuesday 18 April 06 17:32 BST (UK)
Since the James you have in 1881 is a Woollen Dyer living in Hedmondwicke and the father on the earlier censuses is George - I would think you have the same man throughout despite his somewhat erratic age. He's a lodger in 81 so his age may have been a guess by the head of household. His age does seem to vary some what from census to census anyway.

Jan ;)
Title: Re: Opinions needed about family (Siddle)
Post by: Starry on Tuesday 18 April 06 19:44 BST (UK)
Thanks Jan. The only thing that made me wonder, was his age on the marriage cert where he claims to be 10 years youger than he should be lol
Title: Re: Opinions needed about family (Siddle)
Post by: janan on Tuesday 18 April 06 19:55 BST (UK)
I suppose it could have been a mistake either on original entry or later? How old is his wife? if she's younger maybe he didn't want to appear too much older?

Jan ;)
Title: Re: Opinions needed about family (Siddle)
Post by: Starry on Tuesday 18 April 06 20:40 BST (UK)
She was born in 1860, so it is possible he lied.

They're such a nightmare family. He's not on any of the censuses with her lol
Title: Re: Opinions needed about family (Siddle)
Post by: janan on Wednesday 19 April 06 09:48 BST (UK)
Some ancestors like to make life difficult :D
Happy hunting Jan ;)
Title: Re: Opinions needed about family (Siddle)
Post by: genjunction on Thursday 27 April 06 23:20 BST (UK)
Well Starry, if this is your family it looks like we are related.

George Siddle b1817 is my 1st cousin 5 times removed.

I have the tree in all directions back to the 1600's - All within the Wakefield area except one family who moved to Bradford in the early 1800's.  Infact if was one of Georges uncles nephews - think thats right.  Its hard working back and then coming forward.

Anything you want to know let me know.  Also  love to know where you fit in to the great scheme of the Siddle line.

regards

Carol
Title: Re: Opinions needed about family (Siddle)
Post by: Starry on Friday 12 May 06 13:25 BST (UK)
Hi Carol

It could well be that we are related :)

James, son of George, was married to my 2xGGrandmother. She had 2 children with him, then 5 more with a man who wasn't her husband. My GGrandfather was born a Crawshaw, but died a Siddle (hence my confusion!).

I am tracing both lines so I can give my Grandmother (who is a Siddle) the information on them (the Siddle line so she doesn't get upset lol). I can't decide which ones to keep in my tree, so I have both of them.

I'll PM you with my email details and some more information about what I know :)