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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Devon Lookup Requests => Devon => England => Devon Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Sensei on Tuesday 18 April 06 00:51 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I am looking for anything that would help find proof of birth of "Henry Manning Kingwell" c. 1832. His parents would have been Samuel Kingwell b. 1781 -Ugborough, and Jane Mary Manning b. about 1781 also in Ugborough. They were married either May 25, 18-3 or July 29, 1803, in Ugborough. If not that Samuel, maybe Samuel Kingwell christened Aug 22, 1875, and Mary Newman, about 1808 - everyone from Ugborough - married Sept 3, 1829, in Ermington, Devon.
Tks,
Rick
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Hello.
As the birth is pre 1837 then you only have the parish/church
record to depend on, the IGI has a reference for Henry born
1832 (no date) and parents are as you have given.
Mike.
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Mike,
Tks for the info.... Can you tell me which of the Samel Kingwells is mentioned as his father? Does the parish record give the name of the mother? What is the name of the Church, please?
Rick...
P.S. Sorry for all the typos in my original posting.
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Mike,
Can you tell me what IGI stands for? I'm not aware of the meaning...
Also, is there a British Census for that period or up-to the 1860's that would mention him? He came to Canada pre-1872 with the British Fusiliers and stayed in Quebec City where he married my wife's great-grandmother.
Rick....
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Here are all the Kingwells I can see in 1841
The 1841 does not give relationships so you cannot always assume that children are with their parents or even that people of the same age heading the family are husband and wife.they could be sister and brother.You can however follow them through the later censuses and find the evidence.
HO107/'246/6/6/6 1841 DEVON
District of Ugborough
Parish of South Brent
Great Ash
Henry Kingwell 40 Ind
Mary 30
Henry 6
emily 3
John Windgett 36 M.S.(Male servant)
HO107/218/17/7/8
Ughborough Village
Samuel Kingwell 60 yeoman
Jane 60
Caroline 13
all born in county
the following is an interesting household as it has both kingwell and Manning
HO107/218/17/9/12
Ughborough Village
Isaac KIngwell 55 Farmer
Mary 55
Sarah 30
Richard 20
Thomas 70 Ind
Samuel Huets 45 M.S
Wm Fursland 15 Ap
Samuel Kingwell 10 Ap
Daniel brimecome14 Ap (Apprentice)
Mary Freind 10 F.S (Female Servant)
Susan Manning 11 Ap (Apprentice)
John Kingwell 50 Ind
Mary Kingwell 45
Thomas Abraham 9 Ap (Apprentice)
all born in county
HO/107/236/7/5/4 1841 DEVON
South Molton Twitchen
Sundercombe
Richard KIngwell 45 ag Lab
Mary 46
John 11
Elizabeth 8
Henry 6
HO107/218/17/6/6
Ughborough Village
Thomas Kingwell 35 Ag Lab
Mary 30
George 8
Isaac 6
Thomas 3
John 11months
all born in county
HO107/218/17/9/12
Ughborough Village
Isaac KIngwell 55 Farmer
Mary 55
Sarah 30
Richard 20
Thomas 70 Ind
Samuel Huets 45 M.S
Wm Fursland 15 Ap
Samuel Kingwell 10 Ap
all born in county
I have icluded the 2 Henrys as being the same age it will be easy to confuse them if not careful.
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Tks... some of these Kingwells are mine....
Rick
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Ugborough Parish Register:
Baptisms:
20.11.1830 Samuel Philip Manning, son of Samuel & Mary Kingwell
13.1.1833 George Newman, son of Samuel & Mary Kingwell
1.3.1835 Isaac
103.1838 Thomas
2.8.1840 John
all sons of Samuel & Mary Kingwell
There are No baptisms earlier than 1830 at Ugborough for that couple.
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Thanks for the info... that Richard Kingwell and Mary Newman may have been Henry Manning Kingwell's brother.
In searching I have found that the Kingwells were originally "Kingwill"
Is there a KINGWILL from Ugborough?
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Hello.
A search of the NBI shows 29 Kingwill 1748 - 1900 all are
in Somerset.
Mike.