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Hi everyone
I am trying to trace the Brooks family of Tiverton Devon. who could possibly have moved to staffordshire.
Ricky 1 gave me the following family in 1851.
1851 census H0 107/1889 folio 186 pg 19
Elizabeth Brooks widow 26 Somerset Thurlow?
Sarah 5 Tiverton Devon
Anna 3 " "
Charity 1 " "
John Brooks visitor 25 Stafford Hyh Ride?
James Brooks visitor 20 " "
? Bolton 23 Notts Newark
Mary Meeton 25 Devon Hockworths?
Leana Meeton 10mths Tiverton
My great great grandma was Sarah Ann Brooks she married John Fowell in Cheadle.
1861 census for Sarah shows her as an inmate in Union Workhouse Cheadle age 14 RG9/1953 folio 22 pg 37.
But i am finding it difficult to trace her family, I have searched on ancestry for the above family and have found Charity Brooks abt 1850 living in staffordshire. Would someone kindly look her up for me please.
Thanking you in advance
Jan
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Hi Jan
This looks like the one
Cheers from another Jan ;)
Blythe March. Forsbrook
Mary Jarvis Head Widow 65 Forsbrook Staffordshire
Charity Brooks Granddaughter 11 Tiverton Devonshire
RG9/1952/30 Pg7
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This looks like it could be the visitor James from 51
1861
Elmore, Tiverton
James Brooks Head Mar 32 Hawker Blythe Marsh Staffordshire
Elizabeth do Wife 25 do Devon Hockworthy
Elizabeth do Dau 6 Somerset Chard
RG9/1479/70 Pg11
Jan ;)
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hi Jan thanks for the reply,
Looking at that entry Im still none the wiser hahaha.
Charity's Mother was Elizabeth she was a widow in 1851 and came from Somerset Thurlow ??? So don't think this is the right family.
I had two possible families for My g g grandma sarah in 1861, the one in Union Workhouse cheadle and the other still in Tiverton. Seeing as she married in Cheadle I decided to go along that line. The only other possibility was Elizabeth Brooks family in 1851.
I'll go to the devon board and see if anyone can trace Elizabeth in 1861.
Otherwise, back to the drawing board for me :(
Thanks jan
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Jan
Will look for Elizabeth for you - can't see her immediately. Have you found Sarah for certain on later censuses? What are the absolute facts you have?
Jan ;)
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No Elizabeth Brooks born Thurlow, Somerset or in case she remarried Elizabeth born Thurlow anywhere - trouble is she may have given another birthplace It is always easier to work backwards - so suggest you post details for Sarah on later censuses if you have her plus everything else you know or otherwise what you know and we can search for on censuses.
jan ;)
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hi jan I am related to the brooks side of the family i think there is a link between sarah brooks who married fowell and my great great great emma brooks are you still on roots chat
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Hi
Yes Im still on roots chat, I havent looked at this side of the family for a long time as I hit a brick wall regarding Sarah..any info on this brooks family I would greatly appreciate.
Cheers
Jan
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Hi jan,
Thanks for your reply thought it was a long shot to see if you still were linked into the website,
the Brooks family I have traced like you to tiverton devon, I am related to a family which I think may be cousins or aunts of the sarah brooks/fowell family. In the 1871 census where they are at Greenhill in Cheadle there is a domestic servant by the name of Emma Brooks also from Tiverton Devon this is my great times 4 grandmother. Originally i thought that the link between devon and cheadle must have been for work but having searched for them in Devon I think that they had family that lived in the Cheadle staffs area and also in Devon. On the 1851 census in Devon on Sarah b/f family there are a couple of visitors who say they are born in Staffordshire and later there in 1861 there is a link with a Charity Brooks who is Sarah's sister who is living with a Mary Jarvis who is living ion the district of Forsbrook in a area of that village called Blythe Marsh. I have done some research into this and it seems that this area was known for earthenware hawkers being near the potteries there were goods that were good value to buy and then sell for a profit, the Brooks family had a bit of a network set up I think buying these items and then going across the country back to Devon selling the wares. In Devon the families occupations on the census are hawkers so that explanation could work.
I think the 1861 census with sarah in Cheadle workhouse is likely to be her and her sister is also on the same page.
If you know anything of the link between Sarah and Emma then let me know.
If you could let me know any info on the Fowell family as well as when I saw she was out of the workhouse and married with children to John Fowell I thought it was wonderful my line are constantly in the workhouse! tough times.
Have you got a pic of greenhill house it was a lovely building. I can send you one if you like.
Thanks so much for replying
ft
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Hi There
I have been researching the Brookes family for a friend and I have information on both Emma and Sarah Brookes who appear to have been sisters. I have Emma as having two children (I have their birth certificates), Mary Ann in 1871 and Emma Eliza in 1882, both having been born in workhouses. I am very curious as to what happened to these two as they were living in the same house in 1911 along with Mary Ann's husband and her children. Mary Ann is a boarder in Leek in 1881 whilst her mother is in Hanley as a servant. Emma had her daughter Emma in the workhouse and seems to still be there with her in 1891, this strikes me as being so sad.
The Brookes family were from Cheadle but seem to have had connections with Tiverton where they sold china. Thomas' brother James also lived in Tiverton and is a vistor with Thomas' widow Elizabeth in 1851. There were four children born to Thomas and Elizabeth in Tiverton, Charity appears to have died in about 1868, Sarah went on to marry and died after 1911, Emma had the two illeg children but Hannah seems to disappear after 1861.
Regards
Libby
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Hi Libby,
I'm aware of the two children, Mary ann and Emme eliza. Mary ann is my great great grandmother, she went on to live to the 1940s and had many children with george green. When Emma dies, Emma Eliza goes to live with Mary Ann. It is sad they were born in the workhouse however at the time for many it was the only place to get very basic medical care, many were the forerunners of todays hospitals and are located more often than not on the sites of modern day hospitals, I suppose we have to be grateful of these small things. Im not certain they are sisters as they seem to be in different families however could be wrong? Do you have info on this would be great to find out.
Also who is the Thomas that you are talking about. Is he Emma's father?
Thanks very much for posting info
FT
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Hi Libby,
with ref to previous post the not sure they are sisters means Emma and Sarah Brooks?
Thanks
ft
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Hi There
Yes Emma and Sarah Brookes were sisters. I'm not certain about their mother apart from the fact that she was Elizabeth Royl and she married Thomas in Tiverton in 1846. Unfortunately the marriage entry shows nothing for Elizabeth apart from her name - I have a copy of the GRO certificate and I have also seen the PR in Exeter and they are identical in this respect.
As you can see from the above, yes Thomas was the father of both Emma and Sarah Ann and he was the son of Thomas Brrokes and Mary Mason (later Jarvis).
Regards
Libby