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Title: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: Tantan on Wednesday 12 April 06 20:04 BST (UK)
Hi Listers
   Please does anyone have access to the old Parish Records for Deskford to help me identify the death of a 3x Gr Grandmother Jean Wilson (MS Milne) prior to December 1849. Jean Milne married Alexander Wilson in Deskford on 14/07/1804, but I believe that he married again on 27/12/1849 to Helen Grant. I would much appreciate any help in proving this.
Regards
David
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: Forfarian on Wednesday 12 April 06 20:12 BST (UK)
If you look at http://www.gro-scotland.gov.uk/files/list-of-oprs-120to167.pdf you will see that the Deskford Parish Register does not list deaths or burials.
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: Tantan on Wednesday 12 April 06 20:16 BST (UK)
OK Many thanks for that. What a pain!!
David
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: Fransmoi on Thursday 13 July 06 11:36 BST (UK)
This may be of little use but sometimes these clues lead you home !
On an old handwritten tree by my grt uncle who died in 1926 he has a Rev.Alex.Wilson.Milne born 1758 to John Milne" of Alvah" , Mill of Boyndie and Jean Milne "of Chapelton".He never married .
CORRECTION
Alas the handwritten tree had me fooled and I followed the wrong line to Rev Alex Wilson's parents. They are instead Janet Milne b 1732 and her husband
John Wilson. His mother not his father was the Milne from Mill of Alvah.
Abject apologies ,all. :-
Fransmoi
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: Tantan on Thursday 13 July 06 11:57 BST (UK)
Hello Fransmoi
   Thank you so much for that very interesting snippet. Maybe there is a connection here? My Alexander Wilson was I believe a Crofter from info on his daughter's death certificate, which unfortunately doesn't give her mother's maiden name. There are also very many Alexander Wilsons in that area and I'm having the devel of a job to find the right one. Many thanks for your help and interest.
Regards
David
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: Fransmoi on Friday 21 July 06 00:22 BST (UK)
Alas the handwritten tree had me fooled and I followed the wrong line to Rev Alex Wilson's parents. They are instead Janet Milne b 1732 and her husband
John Wilson. His mother not his father was the Milne from Mill of Alvah.
Abject apologies ,all. :-
Fransmoi
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: GDub71 on Saturday 24 November 07 20:43 GMT (UK)
Tantan, I hope you;res still around because I am a direct descendant of Alexander Wilson and Jean Milne in Deskford. Alexander never married Helen Grant, I think it was in fact his cousin, because they lived in adjacent buildings at the Croft Of Aultmore, later to be called Braehead.

I'm interested in your connection with the family, because as far as I'm aware, my son, myself and my bachelor brither are the last males of the name descended from Alexander and Jean.

Graham Alexander Wilson
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: Tantan on Saturday 24 November 07 21:54 GMT (UK)
Graham
   It's fascinating to hear from you and to find a relative from ancestors that far back. As I have it the first child of Alexander Wilson and Jean (Milne) was Margaret baptised 8/11/1805. She married a Donald McKenzie at Cullen on 13/10/1832 and their 6th child was Mary Forsyth McKenzie born Elgin 25/2/1843. Mary McKenzie married a John Templeton in Edinburgh on 1/7/1863 and their 4th child was Jessie Margaret Templeton, born 28/1/1875 who became my maternal Grandma. John Templeton was an Irish (Belfast) stonemason and they ended up in Kensington area of London where he committed suicide in 1882.
  My Gran Jessie went to Somerset as a young girl teacher's assistant and married a Bertie Smith, they married 1897 and eventually settled in Wiltshire where I was born to their 5th child Kate Eliza May Smith.
  I don't have my tree on a computor data base but would be interested to hear more from you and compare notes.
Regards
Tantan
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: GDub71 on Sunday 25 November 07 09:13 GMT (UK)
Hi again,

I actually have your branch of the family on my tree already, and if you are in fact Mr. Bradfield, then we have definitely crossed paths before. However, it's almost certainly time you had some sort of tree on the computer, so E-mail me at (*) and I'll see if I can help you out on that front.

Graham

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Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: Tantan on Sunday 25 November 07 09:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Graham
   Yes I wondered if it could be you after I sent the message !! I do have all your stuff already to get a computerised tree. I might get round to it one day!!
Regards
Tantan
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: clfgd on Sunday 03 August 08 10:59 BST (UK)
GDub71,
i was reading through the post when i saw yours and a couple of your names rung a bell, mainly Currie and peterkin.
i have a margaret currie c1760 who married a john nicol(4xg/grandfather). i have them on the 1841 cen in deskford. i,m struggling to find their marriage anywhere and wondered if you could help. on b/cert,s for children he is down as john nicol in hoggie.
i also have a elizabeth peterkin 1833 fordyce who married james nicol (grandson of the above).
i also have a branch of the family who lived at croft of aultmore, james nicol (brother of above john) lived there with his daughter margaret and her husband william gregor/grigor.
let me know if there is a connection

christine
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: GDub71 on Sunday 03 August 08 12:29 BST (UK)
Hi Christine,

I don't see any connections with my own family, but certainly the locations are all familiar to me. My wife had "Black" ancestors who lived at Hoggie in the late 18th century. Croft of Aultmore was just a small group of about 4 crofts, so our families must have been close neighbours. The Currie's in my family seemed to flit back and forth between Deskford and niegbouring parish Grange, with regularity, so you may well want to look for possible records in Grange parish, or indeed Fordyce parish, which also seemed to have close connections with Deskford in days of yore! Sorry I can't be more helpful!

Graham
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: martin44 on Thursday 03 September 09 13:36 BST (UK)
Hi Christine
Have just joined the site and noticed that we share John Nicol of Hoggie as an ancestor.I am  the Great Grandson of James Nicol ,Rope & Sailmaker of Portsoy [B. 1827] in Forglen Parish.
From death cert. of James's father[also James] came verification of marriage of John Nicol & Margaret Currie .Working on suitable dates found Margaret born To George Currie & Margaret Christie, in Little Dytach on15/05/1776.Like you stuck with John Nicol. What line are you descended from Christine ?
Robert
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: clfgd on Thursday 03 September 09 14:38 BST (UK)
hi robert,
my line is-
john nicol-margaret currie
james nicol-janet robb
alexander nicol- mary donald(brother of your james 1827)
james nicol-mary fowler
john donald nicol-margaret smith
john donald nicol-wendy gibbs
me.
my tree is on ancestry.co.uk if your on there. if poss could i get a copy of the death cert you mentioned. haven,t done this tree for a while as it was costing me a fortune on scotspeople. but did discover branches in USA and Australia. i,m in glasgow whereabouts are you?
hope to hear from you soon
christine
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: martin44 on Friday 04 September 09 19:19 BST (UK)
Hi Christine,
Attached are some OPRs which may be relevant to your search.
1] Death cert of 1877 for James ,son of John. Shows Alexander present at death in no8 Tocher St.
MacDuff,also confirms that parents were John & Margaret Currie.
2] 1841 Census shows Alexander residing at Tocher St. So family house for for at least 36 years.
3]  OPR for Birth of Margaet Christie [Wife of John ]
Like you unable to verify prior to John, however, good chance Walter & Bathia may  be the parents..just got to confirm this somehow..

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Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: SJDB on Thursday 29 October 09 00:40 GMT (UK)
I'm brand new at this but I can clearly see family connections. I am a grand daughter of John Donald Nicol who was b. May 26, 1879, 3 Tocker St., Macduff (married to Margaret b. Nov 1882,  but I don't have her last name) His parents were Alexander Nicol b. abt 1840 in Macduff, and Mary Donald b. abt 1842, Aberdeenshire, Cluny. His parents were James Nicol and Janet Robb. Her parents were John Donald and Margaret Duthie.

John Donald's siblings, as I have them, are Jessie, Mary J, and Alexander all born in Macduff. John Donald Nicol served in the Boer War. He moved to Canada.

I only began searching his roots this week so have not managed to go back further than  Alexander and Mary's OPR Marriage Cert. either, but I have a few more bits about John Donald and his brother Alex.

SJDB

Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: genealogist1 on Friday 30 April 10 20:46 BST (UK)
Dear SJDB,

I too am descended from John Donald & Margaret Duthie of Cluny, Aberdeenshire and would be very interested in exchanging information with you.  I descend from their youngest daughter, Margaret.

Please get in contact.

Yours sincerely,
genealogist1
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: SJDB on Friday 30 April 10 23:26 BST (UK)
Hi Genealogst1
It's good to hear from you and find yet another link to our family tree. If I understand correctly, your relative, Margaret, would have been a sister-in-law//sister of my great grand parents, Alexander Nicol and Mary Donald Nicol. Is that right?
SJDB
Title: Re: Deskford, Banff Old Parish Records
Post by: genealogist1 on Saturday 01 May 10 11:08 BST (UK)
Hi SJDB,

I have left you a "personal message".

genealogist1