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We just had my husband's dad's birth certificate which showed his parents names, I thought it was great as he had such an unusual name, but apart from finding his birth and marriage I can't find him on the census. His name was Edden Smith (I know Smith is commong but Edden isn't!) He was born, it seems, in the September quarter of 1891 in Stratford upon Avon, he married in the December quarter of 1911 in Nuneaton, Warwickshire, to Ethel Lilian North. This is all I have found so far, I really thought I'd be able to find him easily on the 1901 census, but I just can't! We will send off for his birth certificate later, but wondered if anyone could help until then? Thanks,
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Think there may be some question about his christian name :) :)
Could it have been mistranscribed?
Could you tell us his parents names, it might help looking for him in 1901 :) :) :) :) :)
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Hi
I've had a good look but no sign :( Trouble is because Edden is so unusual it might have been misread/heard. There is an Edward Smith age 9 born Stratford living in Walsall with father Henry a bookseller's shop manager - he appears the only candidate. Only certificates will confirm.
Cheers Jan ;)
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I thought i had just posted a reply but it seems to have gone!! Anyway, all we have so far is the birth certificate of Reginald William John Smith, born 1919, it shows his father as Edden Smith, farm labourer and mother as Ethel Lilian Smith, formerley North, she is the person registering the birth. I have searched on Ancestry and found the birth of Edden smith in the September quarter of 1891 in Stratford upon Avon, I searched for Ethel Lilian North under marriages and found it in the december quarter of 1911 in Nuneaton, Warwickshire, it shows his name as Edde(o)n Smith. As there only seems to be one Eddon Smith I'm presuming this is his birth and will eventually send off for his birth certificate when finances allow, it really is an unusual name and I thought it was going to help so much lol. Thanks for your replies so far
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Are you searching just by using birth, death and marriage, or the general search? Only I have looked on BMD and it sort of looks like it could say Eddie, in Stratford, but it IS Edden. I have also, after an hour of going through years and years, found his death in the March quarter of 1957, at the age of 65, in Nuneaton, just need to find a census with him on now!!
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me again, ???, I am getting so confused with this, I really thought that having such an unusual name would help our search. We bought the birth certificate of Edden Smith, and as someone had suggested, this was his mother's maiden name. Her name was ellen Edden and his father was John Smith (just to help lol) Edden was born in Stratford upon Avon. I did a search starting from the year Edden was born going backwards, looking for their marriage and found one in 1875, I've tried searching censuses from 1901 (but no longer have access) but can't seem to find them, or I may have missed them. I have no idea if this is the correct marriage or if there is another Ellen Edden and John Smith! If Ellen was born in 1853, this makes her 38 when Edden was born, is this a little old in those days, or not? Thanks
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This is the Ellen who married John Smith in Brackley Registration district in 1875. Eydon comes under Brackley registration district. Ellen is on the 1871 census living in Eydon.
1901 census RG13 2901 folio 66
Gorse bain Cottage Nuneaton Warwickshire
John Smith 45 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Head Married Farm Labourer
Ellen Smith 49 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Wife Married
George Smith 16 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Son Farm Labourer
Wm Smith 14 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Son Farm Labourer
Edith Smith 12 Halledon, Northamptonshire, Daughter
John Smith 20 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Son Farm Labourer
It is perfectly possible for people to be accidentally left off the censuses
In 1891 the family were living at 1 Wimpstone Whitchurch in the district of Stratford on Avon.
Regards
Valda
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oh wow, thank you so much for this, it looks like poor Edden was left off the census then! It definitely says wimpstone whitchurch on his birth certificate of 1891 and Edden did marry in Nuneaton in 1911! So this must be his family, I had found the marriage of Ellen and John but wasn't 100% sure it was his parents as I found another Ellen and John on something but born in Ireland. This is brilliant, thank you so much again
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1891 census RG12 2478 folio 92
1 Wimpstone Whitchurch Warwickshire
John Smith 37 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Head Married Agricultural Labourer
Ellen Smith 39 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Wife Married
John Smith 14 Hadson, Northamptonshire, Son Agricultural Labourer
James Smith 9 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Son
George Smith 4 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Son
Edith Elizabeth Smith 3 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Daughter
1881 census RG11 1533 folio 39
Main Street Eydon Northamptonshire
Ellen Smith 29 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Head Married Ag lab's wife
Millian Smith 5 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Daughter
John Smith 3 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Son
1881 census RG11 3081 folio 131
Thurlaston village Warwickshire
John Smith 26Woodford, Northamptonshire, Boarder (Lodger) Married Ag Lab
1871 census RG10 1469 folio 41
Main Street Eydon Northamptonshire
John Eddin 59 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Head Married Hawker
Mary Ann Eddin 49 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Wife
William Thomas Eddin 22 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Son Ag Lab
Ellen Eddin 19 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Daughter Lacemaker
1871 census RG10 1491 folio 16
Woodford Village Northamptonshire
John Smith 40 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Head Married Ag Lab
Hannah Smith 34 Hook Norton, Oxfordshire, Wife Married Ag lab's wife
John Smith 15 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Son Ag lab
William Smith 12 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Son Farm lab
Thomas Smith 10 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Son Farm lab
George Smith 7 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Son
Eli Smith 5 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Son
Betsy Smith 3 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Daughter
Eliza Smith 1 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Daughter At home
Regards
Valda
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1861 census RG9 923 folio 49
Eydon Northamptonshire
John Edden 48 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Head Married Dealer in marine stores
Mary A Edden 39 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Wife Married Dealer's wife
William F Edden 12 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Son Farmer's Boy
Ellen Edden 8 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Daughter
Mary A Edden 5 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Daughter
1861 census RG9 943 folio 14
Woodford Northamptonshire
John Smith 29 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Head Married Ag lab
Hannah Smith 26 Hook Norton, Oxfordshire, Wife Married Housekeeper
John Smith 5 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Son Ag lab's son
William Smith 4 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Son Ag lab's son
Thomas Smith 1 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Son Ag lab's son
Regards
Valda
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1851 census HO107 1735 page 4
Eydon Northamptonshire
John Edden 37 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Head Married Shoemaker
Mary A Edden 29 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Wife Married
William Edden 2 Eydon, Northamptonshire, Son
1851 census HO107 1741 folio 236
Woodford Hill Woodford Northamptonshire
William Smith 42 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Head Married Ag lab
Ann Smith 42 Ratley, Warwickshire, Wife Married Charwoman
John Smith 20 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Son Ag lab
Elizabeth Smith 17 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Daughter At home
Thomas Smith 13 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Son Ag lab
William Smith 11 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Son Ag lab
James Smith 5 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Son At home
Dinah Smith 2 Woodford, Northamptonshire, Daughter At home
Regards
Valda
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1841 census HO107 795/8 folio 12 Page 19
Eydon Northamptonshire
Thos Edden 67 Northamptonshire Pauper
Hester Edden 70 Northamptonshire Pauper
John Edden 25 Northamptonshire Shoe m.
Thomas Edden 8 Northamptonshire
1841 census HO107 795/11 folio 6 page 7
William Smith 33 Northamptonshire Ag lab
Ann Smith 33 Woodford Northamptonshire
John Smith 10 Northamptonshire
Mary Smith 8 Northamptonshire
Elizabeth Smith 6 Northamptonshire,
Thomas Smith 3 Northamptonshire
William Smith 6 mths Northamptonshire
Regards
Valda
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oh this is just amazing, thank you so much for all your hard work and help, we didn't think we were going to get far with a name like John Smith but you have helped so much in this, it's absolutely brilliant, thank you very much
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Northamptonshire has extremely poor coverage on the IGI - only about 3% of parishes have any coverage. You will need to look at parish registers to take either family further back.
Regards
Valda
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Mintola1964
Eddon SMITH born Wimpstone, Stratford upon Avon District, 1891.
I have been asked to find the deaths of Eddon's parents, John and Ellen, by a SMITH/EDDON researcher.
I wondered if you had any details of Ellen's death?
chyanteg
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there is a thread under Warwickshire asking for this info and someone has been trying to find out, unfortunately I don't have this info at all! I know that in 1901 they were living in Attleborough I think it was, in Nuneaton but don't know where or when they died sorry!! :(
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I think I am in contact with another descendent of John and Ellen SMITH. She is descended from the eldest child, Mary Millicent, who, I think, was born in Eydon in 1876.
chyanteg
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so am I! wonder if it's the same one lol! she's some kind of cousin removed, we worked out lol