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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: nan on Monday 11 October 04 14:38 BST (UK)
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Looking for information of the family of Isaac Charlesworth born ab. 1826 chr. St Peters Leeds. I think his parents were Jonathan and Sarah. They moved to London sometime before 1861. If anyone has any info on the family please contact me.
Jan
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nan, do you know if this family emigrated to the US? I grew up with a Virginia Charlesworth. I always thought it was an unusual name. Or are you just starting out? They were members for years of the First Presbyterian Church in Royal Oak, MI. In fact, I knew her in high school in Royal Oak and had no idea her family were members there. I knew of the family at the church many years later. So they were long established. RedFox
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Hi Redfox
Apologies for not getting back to you sooner. I had to put family history on the back burner for a while. I have no idea if any of the siblings went to the USA, although I am aware that one went to Australia. This family left Leeds between 1830 and 1850 and went to live in London. I am just having trouble tracing them before they moved to London, I think a trip to Leeds is called for.
Nan
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hello my name is janet and I am researching my Ellis famliy line. it may be a bit obscure however I have a Hannah Charlesworth in my tree, born 1777 She married John Wainwright in 1800 in Sandal Magna Wakefield. Their daugher Mary married William Ellis again in Sandal Magna in 1818.
Hannah Charlesworth was the daughter of David Charlesworth and mary Denton in 1771. in Sandal Horbury.
David was the son of Josua Charlesworth and Martha Thorpe married in Holme firth about 1735. any help. regards janet
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Hi
I haven't made a connection between the Leeds family and that from Holmfirth but you never know. I don't seem to be getting very far with this line at the moment but when I breakthrough I will be in touch. Cheers
Jan
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hi again. thanks for your quick reply. good luck with your search
janet
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Hi Nan
I do a lot pf research in the Leeds archives - I am due there tomorrow if you would like me to do any look-ups for you.
Would the baptism help ? It may give an occupation or abode.
The bap. you refer to I think (30 April 1826) for Isaac - he also had a sister - Martha baptised (31 Aug 1828)
on a search I found Isaac - who I believe to be the one above -
1871 - at Drury Lane, London
Isaac CHARLEWORTH Head M 44 Tobacconist B: Leeds
Hannah " wife M 42 B: Barnsley
Edward " son Un 16 Tpbacconist Ass. B: St Pancras
1881 - 43 Gloucester St., London
Isaac CHARLESWORTH Head M 54 Tobacco cutter B: Leeds
Mary Ann " wife M 56 B: Birmingham
cheers !
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Hi Kathy
Yes Please. Anything you could find would be great and I would really appreciate it. The family you found is the right one. I believe that Isaac's parents were a Jonathan and Sarah Charlesworth and I think I have found them on the 1871 census in London. I think Jonathan was something in the cloth industry. I have a copy of Isaac's second marriage to Mary Ann Cayford but not sure where he married his first wife, Hannah. I keep saying I must go up to Leeds and look things up but the opportunity just hasn't arisen. I am really grateful for any help you can give me.
Jan
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I will let you know what I find.....you may want to remove your email address - now I have got it ! (Use the modify button)
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Hi nan
exciting stuff ! I found your 2 baptisms - one was unclear so, I had a look with one of the Archivists at the original records - and have both childrens dates of births,
No. 659 St Peters. Leeds Parish Church
Baptism 30th April 1826 Isaac son of Jonathan & Sarah CHARLESWORTH
of Nelson Street - Cloth dresser. (in margin - born 6th April 1826)
No. 1518 St Peters, Leeds Parish Church
Baptism 31st August 1828 Martha daughter of Jonathan & Sarah CHARLESWORTH of Nelson Street - Cloth dresser
(in margin - born 14th August 1828)
While I was there I looked in the marriage index - there are numerous Charlesworth's - but no sign of Jonathan & Sarah......they must have married elsewhere.
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I hope I have emailed you a picture of Nelson Street - not sure if it has worked....I will try to put it on here too...
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Wow " I have surprised myself.
Nelson Street was demolished to make way for the present day East Street.
I have had a look on the 1841 census for Leeds - they are no longer living in Nelson Street (which is not surprising really !)
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Hi all
Thanks to Jan for pointing me to this chat,
This is very helpfull to me as Johnathan Charlesworth is my maternal Great Great Grandfather.
Particularly grateful for the picture of Nelson street!
Thanks again
Mike Pooley
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Hi Nan
I think that your Charlesworths are the ones I'm researching. My ancestor, Mary Ann Charlesworth was born in Leeds, daughter of Henry Charlesworth. They moved to London sometime before 1851, when Henry's son was born in London. They were living in St Giles Cripplegate. I think that Henry may be Isaac's brother, as well as the brother of William.
William was born in about 1812 and I have his marriage certificate which shows his father as Jonathan, a cloth draper. William was born in Honley. He moved to London sometime before 1847, which is when he got married in Lambeth. He was a tobacco manufacturer.
Henry was born in about 1819, in Leeds. He was also a tobacconist.
My reasoning is that 3 men, all born in Yorkshire, all ending up in London, all in the tobacco trade, must be related. Also, William and Isaac give their father's name as Jonathan and give him the same trade. I just haven't got Henry linked to them yet (I only discovered him in the 1861 census this week).
The reason you might not have found Jonathan and Sarah in Leeds might be that they married in Honley?
Cabby
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Hi Cabby
Yes they are one and the same. Please e mail me on janette1956@aol.com. Would be interested in Henry's line down, I do have a little information on him. Plus any other information you have. I can fill you in on Isaac's children Frederick and descendents plus others. I am glad you have come across Honley because I knew there was a connection and couldn't find it.
Jan
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Hi
My name is Amanda and I have just stareted researching the name Charlesworth.
I am decended from Henry and Sarah Charlesworth, who moved to Cripplegate, London.
Their daughter Elizabeth Charlesworth married John Walter Dawe, and they had Samuel Dawe who was my Great Grandfather.
Samuel Dawe married Maud Weeks, and they had my Grandmother Lillian Annie Dawe in 1902 on London.
Would ove to share information with you.
Best wishes
Amanda
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Hi
I know this is an old thread but I have just been chatting to my cousin and she is having difficulty tracing her fathers dad Christien/ Christian Charlesworth. It is believed he was born in Yorkshire C1895 and then the family moved to London. He married an Eleanor Neville.
Do any you have a Christian in your trees at all
Many thanks
Cal 8)
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Hi Cal
My line of Charlesworth's came down to London in the mid 1800's. I will have a look for you in my odd bits of Charlesworths and see if I can find anything.
Jan
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Thanks Jan
I have told my cousin to join so she and her hubby can maybe post the full details they have
But thanks for looking
Cal 8)
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Hi again Cal - I have looked at the info I have, but sadly - no Christian. If your cousin doesn't have access to thevarious census please let me know and I will try and help them. Any other info i.e. siblings names would be helpful. jAN
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Hi Amanda
I have just noticed a message you sent re the Charlesworth's ages ago. Not sure if I ever replied. Apologies.... Please let me know if you would like any information as Henry and Sarah are definately in my Charelsworth's. Contact me on Email address removed by moderator to prevent spam - please contact by personal message
Jan
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Hi Jan
I am not sure where they got the info from? I think it may have been from family tales. I tried to find Christians birth on the complete BMD listing last night and can't see him there either.
I am off to visit them next weekend so I will see what I can glean off them ;D