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Title: Why can't I find them?
Post by: patb on Sunday 10 October 04 19:37 BST (UK)

Someone has very kindly found my Burns family on the 1871 census but I am unable to locate them on the 1881 census. Any ideas why?????

1871 census info

1871 Waterloo Street Wavertree Liverpool.
Patrick Burns Head M 28 Labourer Ireland
Elizabeth Wife M 30 Labourers Wife Ireland
Mary A Daughter 7 Wavertree
Elizabeth Daughter 5 Wavertree
Catherine Daughter 4 Wavertree
Margaret Daughter 2 Wavertree

I can find Patrick, Mary Ann and Margaret on the 1891 census.

Thanks

Pat ??? ??? ???

Title: Re: Why can't I find them?
Post by: Fitty on Thursday 14 October 04 16:37 BST (UK)

Hi Pat,

I've lost a family too on the 1881.  I can only assume that for whatever reason they were missed off.  I've heard of other instances of this too.  Frustrating isn't it?

Fitty

Title: Re: Why can't I find them?
Post by: baileyjohn on Thursday 14 October 04 17:40 BST (UK)

Hi Pat

Try looking for Patrick being a bit older - He appears to be on the 1891 Census in Wavertree but is given as being 52. His daughter Margaret is with him aged 21 - So looks like a match.

Census Ref:
     
Source information:    RG12/3003
Registration district:    West Derby 
Sub registration district:    Wavertree 
ED, institution, or vessel:    6 
Folio:    46 
Page:    24

They are boarding at 12 Hills Place, Wavertree (Holy Trinity).

Head of household is Thomas Kearns, Carter and his wife is Mary. A. Kearns aged 27 - Could this possibly be Patrick's daughter - right age and also born Wavertree? There is also a son Patrick Kearns !!!!

Patrick is a widower and his occupation is bricklayer's labourer.

Best Wishes
Tony Owen
Bolton, Lancs

Title: Re: Why can't I find them?
Post by: hilaryd on Thursday 14 October 04 20:44 BST (UK)

Hi Pat

This appears to be your family in 1881:

Patrick BURNETT   Head   M   Male   41   Ireland   Labourer Local Board     
 Eliza BURNETT   Wife   M   Female   39   Ireland       
 Mary A. BURNETT   Daur   U   Female   17   Wavertree, Lancashire, England   Dressmaker     
 Eliza BURNETT   Daur      Female   15   Wavertree, Lancashire, England   General Serv     
 Catherine BURNETT   Daur      Female   14   Wavertree, Lancashire, England       
 Margaret BURNETT   Daur      Female   12   Wavertree, Lancashire, England   Scholar     
 Bridget BURNETT   Daur      Female   9   Wavertree, Lancashire, England   Scholar     
 Sarah BURNETT   Daur      Female   4   Wavertree, Lancashire, England   Scholar     
 Michael BURNETT   Son      Male   2   Wavertree, Lancashire, England       


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Source Information:
  Dwelling   5 Chapel Yard
  Census Place Wavertree, Lancashire, England
  Family History Library Film   1341890
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   3717 / 20
  Page Number   33

Sometimes a little ingenuity is necessary on the 1881!!

Hope this helps  :)

Best wishes
Hilary
Bury
Lancs

Title: Re: Why can't I find them?
Post by: patb on Thursday 14 October 04 21:01 BST (UK)

Thanks to you all for your help.

Hilary certainly does look like my family.

Thanks again

Pat :)