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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: freeway on Monday 03 April 06 14:31 BST (UK)
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can anyone help me please, because my g/grandmother had a very common surname (emma smith) I,m having difficulty find out where she was born and who her parents were, the only thing i am sure about is that she married george murgitroyd in london about 1863/4 and lived in shorditch where he was a waterman,they had 1 son and 3 daughters were born in london,the other 5 girls were born in glasgow, scotland yours freeway
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Hi Freeway
Do you have the family on the 1871 census anywhere ???
If not, and you expect them to be in London, do you have the names and approximate birthdates/locations for the children born in London?
Casalguidi
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They were possibly in Bethnal Green in 1871:
RG10/479 Folio 52 page 7.
13 Warner Place
Elizabeth Murgitroyd, widow, 60, formerly a laundress, b. Bethnal Green
(same address, next family)
George Murgitroyd, head, 29, paper marbler, b. Bethnal Green
Emma, 28, b. Hoxton
George, 6
Emma, 4
Louisa, 3
Sarah, 1 (all b. Bethnal Green).
occupation/location doesn't quite fit with what you've got but there is a marriage in Shoreditch district:
listed under April/May/June 1863 Shoreditch Volume 1c Page 346 (taken from original images)
George Murgitroyd
Emma Smith
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hi jorose,that is the correct family.elizabeth was my g/g/grandmother,..it is emma,s parents name I am looking for so I can research that side of my family, george was my great grandfather, and emma died in glasgow. thank you for your help.................freeway
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Hi Freeway
Unfortunately there are too many Emma SMITHs in the earlier census for us to identify the correct one without any further information :(
I think it's probably a case of having to purchase her marriage certificate and hoping that there's some further information on there ie. address, father's name & occupation.
Best wishes
Casalguidi
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hi casalquidi,I have just found my g/grandmothers death certificate and found her father was john thomas smith an farrier but it only has smith for the mother, I will now look for john on igi and see what it turns up, manny thanks for your help.......freeway
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Well that's really useful Freeway ;D
This could be them ......................
1851
30 Tower Square, Hoxton (St John)
John Thomas SMITH head mar furrier b.Cripplegate Mdx
Sarah Ann wife 38 b.St George Surrey
John George son 16 errand boy b.St Luke Mdx
Henry son 14 b.St Luke Mdx
George son 12 b.Shoreditch
Alfred son 10 b.Shoreditch
Emma dau 8 b.Shoreditch
Luisa dau 6 b.Shoreditch
Ellen dau 4 b.Shoreditch
Ann dau 1 b.Shoreditch
HO107/1536 folio 217 page 11
Casalguidi
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And a match for the above family .......................
1861
44 St James St, St Leonard Shoreditch
John T SMITH head mar 50 type founder b.Cripplegate
Sarah Ann wife 48 b.Southwark Surrey
Henry Dixon son unm 24 cordwainer b.St Luke Mdx
George son unm 22 type founder b.Shoreditch
Alfred son unm 20 engineer b.Shoreditch
Emma dau unm 18 machine worker b.Shoreditch
Louisa F dau milliner b.Shoreditch
Ellen dau 14 milliner b.Shoreditch
Ann dau 11 b.Shoreditch
Mary A dau 7 b.Shoreditch
Mary A PROVOST lodger unm 20 machine worker b.Shoreditch
William MANN?? lodger unm 24 cordwainer b.Shoreditch
RG9/241 folio 41 page 11 and the following page
I can't promise they're the correct family but a good possibility perhaps ???
Casalguidi
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1871
44 Gt James St, Shoreditch
Sarah Ann SMITH head wid 59 b.St George the Martyr Southwark Surrey
George son mar 30 warehouseman b.Hoxton
Martha Wilson dau in law mar 30 machinist b.Bethnal Green
William KILNER boarder unm 24 harness maker b.St Luke Mdx
RG10/454 folio 48 page 43
Casalguidi
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dear casalquidi, thank you so much , I think you have found the right family, the date for john is about right , emma married my g/grandfather george murgitroyd in shorditch, can,t thank you enough, freeway