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Title: woodage
Post by: Pips on Sunday 10 October 04 12:14 BST (UK)
does anyone have info on charles edward woodage born in east ilsley about 1882
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Nicky on Sunday 10 October 04 12:51 BST (UK)
HI
This looks like Charles at home in 1891

Charles Woodage 19  East Ilsley, Berkshire, England Son  East Ilsley  Berkshire   
Jessie Marie Woodage 11  Bradfield, Berkshire, England Granddaughter  East Ilsley  Berkshire   
Mary Ann Woodage 63  Thatcham, Berkshire, England Wife  East Ilsley  Berkshire   
Mary Ellen Woodage 5  East Ilsley, Berkshire, England Granddaughter  East Ilsley  Berkshire   
William Woodage 70  Yattendon, Berkshire, England Head  East Ilsley  Berkshire 

Civil parish:    East Ilsley 
Ecclesiatical parish:    East Ilsey St Mary 
Town:    East Ilsley 
County/Island:    Berkshire 
Country:    England 
     
     
Source information:    RG13/1137
Registration district:    Wantage 
Sub-registration district:    Ilsley 
ED, institution, or vessel:    11 
Folio:    110 
Page:    14
Household schedule number:    94


address is Stanmore Road

William is a shepherd on a farm
and Charles is listed as an under carter on farm

I have checked the transcript again the original image and it is correct

Nicky
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Nicky on Sunday 10 October 04 13:00 BST (UK)
Hi
sorry previous census was 1901 not 1891.

here is 1891 for Charles

Woodage, Alice 12 Aston Upthorp, Berkshire Daughter  East Ilsley  Berkshire   
Woodage, Charles 9 East Ilsley, Berkshire Son  East Ilsley  Berkshire   
Woodage, Harriett 15 Aston Upthorp, Berkshire Daughter  East Ilsley  Berkshire   
Woodage, Henry 38 Thatcham, Berkshire Son  East Ilsley  Berkshire   
Woodage, Mary Ann 53 Thatcham, Berkshire Wife  East Ilsley  Berkshire   
Woodage, William 59 Yattendon, Berkshire Head  East Ilsley  Berkshire 

Civil parish:    East Ilsley 
Ecclesiastical parish:    East Ilsley 
Town:     
County:    Berkshire 
 

Source information:    RG12/983
Registration district:    Wantage 
Sub registration district:    Ilsley 
ED, institution, or vessel:    11 
Folio:    118 
Page:    20

I have checked the transcript against the original image and Henrys age should read 18 not 38.

William is listed as a shepherd
Henry as a carter boy
Harriet general domestic servant
Alice and Charles scholars

here is the 1871 for William and Mary Woodage

Alfred Woodage 13  Coldash, Berkshire, England Son  Stanford Dingley  Berkshire   
Caroline Woodage 1 month  Stanford Dingley, Berkshire, England Daughter  Stanford Dingley  Berkshire   
James Woodage 9  Coldash, Berkshire, England Son  Stanford Dingley  Berkshire   
John Woodage 2  Coldash, Berkshire, England Son  Stanford Dingley  Berkshire   
Mary Ann Woodage 33  Thatcham, Berkshire, England Wife  Stanford Dingley  Berkshire   
William Woodage 38  Yattendon, Berkshire, England Head  Stanford Dingley  Berkshire   
William Woodage 11  Coldash, Berkshire, England Son  Stanford Dingley  Berkshire 
     
Civil parish:    Stanford Dingley 
County/Island:    Berkshire 
Country:    England 
         
Source information:    RG10/1275
Registration district:    Bradfield 
Sub-registration district:    Bucklebury 
ED, institution, or vessel:    4 
Folio:    85 
Page:    15


William is a shepherd
Alfred is a shepherd

Hope this gives you some leads

Nicky

Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Pips on Monday 11 October 04 13:33 BST (UK)
 thanks Nicky very helpful.Charles has John listed as his father on his marriage cert. maybe John died as I think William could be Johns brother. Thanks again
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: thedavenports on Friday 21 January 05 20:33 GMT (UK)
Hi, I am new to this chatroom so bear with me.  My wife is a WOODAGE & I have her line back, through BMD certiiicates, baptismal & census records to the Berkshire WOODAGES - Charles baptised May 1800 at Yattendon & his parents JOhn & Hannah nee HOPE.  Of Charles's children, William baptised 1831 at Yattendon has a Charles baptised 1882 at East Isley living with him in 1891 & 1901 & is down as a son.  William is trackable through the censuses from 1841.  BUT, if Charles father is John, then he would be the illegitimate son of William's younger brother John who didn't get married until after 1881, trackable through the censuses from 1841, living with wife Sarah in 1891 & 1901.

So, I would really appreciate contact if Pip is researching the WOODAGEs as two heads are always better than one.

Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Vicwinann on Thursday 09 March 06 08:11 GMT (UK)
Hello,
And 3 heads might be even better.  I have recently found that I have 2 links to the Woodages of Yattendon. One via Jared Woodage son of Charles and Mary Ann nee Johnson and who married Sarah Hamblin, and also their daughter Caroline 1883 who married Thomas Josiah Goodall, son of Charles Goodall and Jane Sellwood.  I have done some research from John Woodage and Hannah Hope but  had got somewhat stuck on William Woodage chr 1830, Jared's brother because on the 1881 birthplaces are just Berkshire and some names are just initials.  The correspondence so far has helped me but perhaps we can further collaborate.
Regards
Vicwinann
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: afstan on Wednesday 21 September 11 17:57 BST (UK)
Hello. 
I realise that this comes a long time after the last message posted, but it may still be of interest.  I have transcripts of part of the School Log Book for Bradfield and it mentions various members of the families you are researching.  Most of the entires simply record a child's admission, but others list achievements or punishments.  I have entires from 1866 and 1883-1893 for the following names: Selwood: Ellen, Beatrice, George, Henry, Martha and William.  Woodage: Charles, Charlotte.  Charles is recorded as dying in 1889.  I am happy to look up the log book entries if you are interested or you can see the original log books at the Berkshire Record Office.
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Vicwinann on Wednesday 21 September 11 18:30 BST (UK)
Hello,
Thank you so much for your offer of lookups. I cannot get to the BRO to do it myself, and charges for distance research are prohibitive.

Charles William Woodage was Charlotte's brother.

I would be very interested in the School entries for Sel(l)wood. I should imagine all of them will be my kin. From the names I know they are. They were also related to many other Bradfield and Bucklebury families that I have also researched.
How do you want to send them? I will post a private message with my email address if that is the most convenient.
Incidentally, I also went to Bradfield St Andrews School in the early 1950's.
Yours
Vicwinann
Title: Re: Charles Ed woodage Take note of the marriage
Post by: Vicwinann on Saturday 24 September 11 17:42 BST (UK)
thanks Nicky very helpful.Charles has John listed as his father on his marriage cert. maybe John died as I think William could be Johns brother. Thanks again


Hello Pips,
I have just come across this message again and panicked. If you have followed the information sent re: the 1891 and 1901 censuses you may have followed the wrong Charles Woodage.
Charles Edward 1882 was son of John as you said the marriage cert stated. He married Fanny Jessop in 1901. Is this your Charles? The Berkshire Woodage scions are many and they had the same first names and birth years.
Charles, son of William and Mary Ann Jackson, was registered and baptised plain Charles. He married Louisa Downham in 1903.
Charles Edward, son of John and Mary Heath, was actually born in Surrey. In 1891 he was with his parents in Iver, Bucks.
John and William were distant cousins.
I hope I haven't put the cat amongst the pigeons, but I thought that I had better let you have my information.
Yours
Vicwinann
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Pips on Thursday 03 November 11 08:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks Vic I did not follow the wrong line as I acquired the marriage cert of Charles Edward to confirm his father. Don't you just wish these Woodages would find some other names for children born in the same year. Thanks again Jac
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: glensmith1 on Friday 09 December 11 21:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Pips,
I am wanting to contact family members of John Dereck Woodage. B. 8/10/1922 D. 7/2/1945 Burma. Father George. Mother Charlotte. Lived in Berkshire
Am researching the crew of a Liberator shot down by Japanese during WW2. John was beheaded by Japanese

Many thanks
Glen
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Vicwinann on Monday 12 December 11 15:30 GMT (UK)
Hello,
If you don't already know, I think you will find that John D Woodage 1922 was born in the Wigan Reg Dist where his parents George W Woodage and Lottie Mawdsley also married. (FreeBMD)

Your search might be more productive there.
Vicwinann
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: glensmith1 on Wednesday 14 December 11 22:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Vicwinann,

Thanks for your help. I checked BMD and which confirms your info. My details come from the registry at the Rangoon war cemetery. Berkshire could well have been where they lived at time of his death. I'm not a genealogist so am new to this. Can you make suggestions how I may persue my search

Glen
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Vicwinann on Thursday 15 December 11 03:06 GMT (UK)
Hello,
My link with the Woodages is very distant but I have done some research on this huge spread-about family.

It could well be that John Derek's  father came from Berkshire initially. I have a couple of George W Woodages on my tree but neither seem to fit the one who married in Wigan.

However, I had a look on the Commonwealth War Graves site and John Derek's parents were living at Maidenhead, it would appear, when the notification was made. So it looks as if they moved back from Lancs to Berks/Oxon

Annoyingly, there were 2 George William Woodages born in that area in 1899. One, I know was born Caversham, son of John Woodage and Mary Ann Wootten.
They were living at White Waltham in 1911. I have this George William married to Ellen Tucker in 1921 with 9 children from 1921-1939. However, I don't have the marriage cert to definitively prove father of George, so I may have the wrong George William.

I don't think so, though, because two of the daughters I have for him, married in Caversham and I have those marriages from the Parish registers.

The other George William was son of George Richard Woodage (son of Abraham) and Grace Blanche Griffiths, but I cannot connect this couple or the father to anyone at present in my tree, alathough I have researched a bit. This George William was bap Caversham St John in 1899. He might be the father of John Derek that you are looking for. [or he might be the one married to Ellen Tucker as above]

The only real way of knowing which the father of John Derek Woodage was is to buy his birth cert which will show his parents, and the marriage cert of the Wigan marriage of George to see who George's father was.

Perhaps a question on the Lancashire board of this site might get you further. A baptism and church record marriage would be useful.  A copy of John Derek's Service Record might be also of help if you are able to get it.
Not sure how to go about that for WW2 records.
I hope I have not been too negative.
Vicwinann
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Juliasnow on Saturday 14 January 12 20:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Glen,
I have just seen your post about John Derek Woodage. He was my uncle. My father Ivor Colin Woodage is his brother. He is now 87 and lives in Hertfordshire. My grandmother was Charlotte Woodage (nee Mawdsley). She died in 1990.
My grandparents split when my father was very young so he does not know very much about his father, but would like to know more about that side of his family.
Hope this helps you and if you have any more information that would help us we would be very grateful.
My father has full details of the Liberator crash and what followed. Did you have family on the plane?
Regards
Julia
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Juliasnow on Saturday 14 January 12 20:54 GMT (UK)
Further to my previous post. My father has a copy of his parents marriage certificate. His father George William Woodage was born in Berkshire,moved to Wigan and then returned to Maidenhead in 1931. We will dig it out and check on his grandfathers name.
Julia
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Vicwinann on Saturday 14 January 12 22:06 GMT (UK)
Hello Julia,
From my research point of view, that would be great. At least knowing who George W's father was will go some way to prove that I have the right marriage for my George W.
I may also be able to help you - hopefully.
Vicwinann
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Juliasnow on Saturday 14 January 12 23:13 GMT (UK)
HI Vicwinann,
The marriage certificate (1921) of George William and Charlotte Mawdsley lists his father as John Woodage, farmer. They stayed married until 1931 when George left home, they only had two children John Derek, born 1922,and my father Ivor Colin, born 1924. We don't think George had any more children. He lived in Hayes, Middx, my father only saw him once after he left and that was years later.
George William was 22 when he married so that would make his birthdate 1899 or 1900, He was born in Berkshire.
I'm not sure how this ties in with your research but if you have any more info on our John Woodage that would be great. My father would like to know if he has any other relatives.
Do you mind me asking why you are researching the Woodage family?
Thanks
Julia
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Vicwinann on Sunday 15 January 12 03:16 GMT (UK)
Hello,
Thanks for that. It does help to clarify and unmuddle things a bit.
My maiden name is Sellwood and the Woodages weave in and out of some of my linked Berks families, hence my researching them in some depth although they are distant from me.
That and my general curiosity and being a researchaholic.
I will send you a private message with my email address. There is some confusion with your particular scion which needs a bit more space to explain than here.
Yours
Vicwinann
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: glensmith1 on Sunday 15 January 12 06:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Julia,

Thanks for the information. This is a long story. The crash of BZ 938 "Wottawitch has been extensively researched. Contact has been made with all the survivors (two now deceased) and others relatives except for Woodage and Snelling. By the way my uncle was on that flight.
I visited the crash site in Jan 2010 the first relative of any of the crew to ever have visited the site. I am fascinated that Dereck's brother is still alive and I would love to make contact. You can see a doco of my visit on the net. I don't know how to attach a link but Google, Wottawitch ppt presentation and you will have a good idea of the research to date. Now I need to find any relatives of Snelling. Have put out a request but nothing to date. Please let me know what info you might want and will endeavour to get it too you

Many thanks for your contact also Vicwinann. It has been most helpful. I do have a disc of my visit which is better than the net download if you were interested.

Regards
Glen
Title: Re: woodage
Post by: Pips on Saturday 11 February 12 03:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Julia I was born in Hayes and my mother was a Woodage although she was born and grew up in Southall.Her family also originated in Berkshire.