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Title: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: 1vicki on Saturday 01 April 06 23:19 BST (UK)
Hi to all

looking for all family members of this marriages
Ephraim Ager married Catherine Urban in 1876 Moss Vale NSW Australia
Children of this Marriage
Henry thomas Ager,b 1877  Believe to haven't marriage.

Lucy Ada Ager,b 1879  Believe to haven't marriage.

William Ager,b 1881 Believe to haven't marriage.

Emily Ager,b 1884 marriage James Lunney

George Ager,b 1886 marriage in New Zealand whereabout of his family unknown

Elsie Ager, b 1889  marriage William Onion
 
Jane Ager, b 1893 marriage O Best

Albert Ager,b 1888 Catherine Ager,b 1891 Walter Ager,b 1892
                      Died Young O--3 YRS

Have contact with Emily line I'm Elsie line
looking for George Ager how do I find him in NZ?
and Jane Best line last heard of in Grafton area
any Ideal Thanks
this year is their 130th on July 2006 would love to have an reunion
                                in Moss Vale
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 02 April 06 01:51 BST (UK)
Hi Vicki,

http://www.naa.gov.au/default.html

On this site I found a document which may interest you.
It is a service record (ww1) for Oswald Henry Best whose Next of Kin is Jane Emily Best. There is a lovely 46 page digital copy available on line for you to look at .  If he IS your Jane's husband, you will see some family details there as well as the very detailed history of hos war injuries etc.

Go to record search. Search as a guest. type in Jane Best.
See Oswald Henry Best. Click digital copy.
Hope he is a help to you.
Sue
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 02 April 06 02:21 BST (UK)
Hi again vicki,
On close reading of the above document, there is no doubt it is your family as there is a letter in the file from L. Ager -Lucy-inquiring about Oswald's wounds.( she must have written as 'older sister' and it shows, as you thought, she is not married)  It comes from an address in Strathfield.
Another letter in the file is from Jane and the address is Cornwall Park Grafton.
I found the whole document fascinating and quite moving.
Such a sad little note she wrote to the commanding officer.
Sue
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: 1vicki on Sunday 02 April 06 02:25 BST (UK)
Thanks Sparrett,

It him! :) :-
Having a good time reading all about him my mum never met him,
my aunt mum sister I think has, will ring her tonight to find out .
A great help many thanks again   :-*
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 02 April 06 02:39 BST (UK)
Hi Vicki,
Your welcome!!
I suppose you have explored
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/index.htm

On it I found Oswald's death, Ephriam's and Catherine's too. As well as death of Henry & William. not Jane though.
Sue
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: 1vicki on Sunday 02 April 06 03:12 BST (UK)
 Hi Sue

Have been there, I think I live there ! ::)
Lucy Ada Ager is under Lucy Aga Agar death in 1951

Vicki
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 02 April 06 03:53 BST (UK)
Hi vicki,
What do you think of this as ww2 record for a son of Jane and Oswald?
Sue
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=A&VeteranID=388837
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: 1vicki on Sunday 02 April 06 05:02 BST (UK)
sue

Think so, :-\
 Aunt Pat will be getting a lot of questions to-night, 
the family has lost touch with a lot of them this is why I am trying to get this reunion going before all is lost I have a family photo of the Ager in the last 1800

Vicki
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 02 April 06 06:14 BST (UK)
Hi,

If you think it is useful, you can get a full service record for Frederick .  There is a link at top of page I sent.

I can see Frederick's marriage on bdm nsw.

If you can find his children, you might be making real progress!
Sue
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: AMBLY on Sunday 02 April 06 22:05 BST (UK)
Hi Vicki
Re: George AGER in New Zealand - This may be a goose chase but I guess with nothing else to go on, you could at least try to eliminate....... :D
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/CallSimpleSearch.do

The NZ site Archway has this record of Probate:
Title: AGER George - Edgecumbe ex Nugget Point - Lighthouse Keeper
Date Range:1952 1952
Last Dept Responsible:High Court Auckland, Department of Justice Akld

The record is kept in a place  I used to work just down the road from, but I moved 2 yrs ago to other end of island  :(  otherwise I'd go have a squizz for you). But you can email the office and see how you, not being in NZ,  might retrieve the information. Quote the references on the webpage.

Now, geographic:
Auckland is near top of North Island, NZ.
Edgecumbe is in the Bay Of Plenty, Whakatane  District in the Central Nth Island.
Nugget Point is, though - at the far end of the South Island in the Caitlins of Otago Province.

George AGER died in Edgecumbe August 1952:
http://www.angelfire.com/ar/arrolfamily/Whakatane1.txt
Funeral Record: AGER  George  Ref: 1342   Date:10-08-1952
He's the only AGER on that list

For the price of a Popsicle you can supposedly snail mail for more info to an address given on that page, in Cambridge in Waikato district Central North Island - but I don't know how old that info is.....I can't find any other reference or a phone number.  You could instead try emailing the Whakatane museum:
http://www.whakatanemuseum.org.nz/research.htm

Give them the date above etc (which I presume is a Funeral date and see if you might wangle a lookup in their newspaper collections of the area that would include Edgecumbe - or they might know who Ridgeway is.

In case the Nugget Point lighthouse Keeperwas your George AGER, this might be an interesting tidbit:
http://www.maritimenz.govt.nz/publications/lighthouses/nuggetpoint.pdf

Maybe a kiwi chatter with more local knowledge can extend this a bit for you.

Good Luck
AMBLY

Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: 1vicki on Monday 03 April 06 00:40 BST (UK)
:)
Hi Ambly
That George,
In a family letter from an Lunney cousin, 1982 she said  that he was a lighthouse
Kepper and has a large family in NZ (went there when he was 18) His youngest daughter Hazel and her husband, visited family some  time ago (before 82).

this is getting better by the day, wish I found this site last year !

Thankyou

Vicki
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: AMBLY on Monday 03 April 06 01:26 BST (UK)
Hi Vicki
 ;D Do you mean, That is the George you were after? Great stuff!

I have just made a call to the Whakatane District Council - it's abt 6 hrs drive from me - they, unlike many local councils here do not have a Cemetery Database Online, but when I called they said they do have one - unfortunately the lady Database keeper is out at lunch, so I'll call back and see if I can't get her to look him up on the database - it may have some info on it. X all digits meantime!!

Cheers
AMBLY.
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: 1vicki on Monday 03 April 06 02:12 BST (UK)
Dear Ambly,

Yes it's  ;D
That , is really nice of you,  Thankyou :-*

Will be in town all day, will be back to night.
 I live in the country, Back of Bathurst NSW
I did visit NZ when I was was teenager. 
At the time didn't know we had Family there would have like to have met them then, it would be making this so much easier.

Vicki
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: AMBLY on Monday 03 April 06 04:51 BST (UK)
Hi Vicki
Seems like George may have worked at more than one lighthouse.
Here is a site with a reference to an Assistant Keeper named AGER:
http://www.lighthousedepot.com/database/uniquelighthouse.cfm?value=1169
Keepers: ? Simmonds (c. 1922), ? Ager (assistant, c. 1920s), Hugh Jamieson (1931-1935), Tom Clark (c. late 1950s)  
This is at Gisborne which places George in the Bay of Plenty region, not to far from where he died.

George AGER died aged 65, as per previous message : He is buried in Hillcrest Cemetery, Block 1, Plot 14.
There is also a John Henry AGER who died 2004 aged 89 - he is recorded in the Memorial Garden, Nr 108.
For these, we have the lovely Dorothy, keeper of the Cemetery List for the Whakatane District Council, to thank.

Hold all engines - better to come.........
A.
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: AMBLY on Monday 03 April 06 05:01 BST (UK)
Hi Vicki

I've made contact with a lovely lady here in NZ; George was her Grandad (and George's wife was named Lillian).

I'm going to PM you with some details and to get your email address to enable contact (don't put email address on the public site, as the moderators will delete them for security reasons.)

 ;D
Anne
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: 1vicki on Tuesday 04 April 06 02:12 BST (UK)
Dear Ambly

Did you get the e-mail note?
I am New at this I don't know if I got the messages out ok ?

Vicki
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: AMBLY on Tuesday 04 April 06 03:22 BST (UK)
Hi Vicki  ;D

Yep, got your message with all the details, which I have just sent  off to your new NZ cousin - hopefully she will be in touch soon and you can all start melting those wires across the Tasman ditch  ;D

All the best!
Anne
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: 1vicki on Thursday 06 April 06 06:36 BST (UK)
                                             :)
                                       HI to All
                            Just a little note to say,
                   :o I finally found My NZ cousins

                    A VERY SPEICAL THANKYOU TO  ANN

                                     :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: Jill5 on Tuesday 11 April 06 01:39 BST (UK)
Hi Vicki & Ambly

Your Aust-NZ relation here, I have E-mailed you both and am now busy re-compiling guff for your information and will send to you as soon as complete.  With Easter coming up I am hoping for a little time to get back in to the Ager family history.

I have also been contacted by another Ager in the UK (via an Aunt in NZ) and will let you know what transpires when I get it.

Jill5
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: 1vicki on Tuesday 11 April 06 01:59 BST (UK)
I am jumping out of my skin :o

looking forward to receive it.

 :) love  vicki\ kerri
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: AMBLY on Tuesday 11 April 06 03:09 BST (UK)
Uh-oh :-[
I'm afraid Jill, I'm a Cuckoo in the nest  ;D

I was luckily able to help Vicki/Kerri out and it's so neat you're all happily in touch (and great about a new UK cousin too!) - but sadly, I am no relation to the AGER clan!

Vicki, you'll be going nuts with excitement, it's just wonderful for you!

XX AMBLY
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 11 April 06 08:54 BST (UK)
AND it looks like we've got another new rootschatter out of it too!!
Can't ask for more than that.
Welcome Jill5
Sue
Title: Re: Ager Family Ephraim and Catherine 1876
Post by: Feymous on Sunday 16 November 08 09:26 GMT (UK)
Hello from another descendant of George and Lillian Ager, they were my grandparents. It's great to be able to put some more names and dates together.
I remember my Dad mentioning an Aunty Lucy, and Aunt Jenny (Jane).
Faye Ager-Stone,
New Zealand.