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Research in Other Countries => US Lookup Requests => United States of America => US Completed Requests => Topic started by: mgf on Thursday 30 March 06 17:05 BST (UK)
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Hi all!
First of all, thanks in advance to anyone who picks this up. Sorry this is quite wordy, but my information is a bit fuzzy so I want to present as much of it as possible.
I'm trying to trace my great-uncle Thomas Taylor who emigrated to the U.S. probably some time within a few years of 1920. He was born 14th March 1893 in Walham Green, Middlesex (might also be quoted as Fulham, London) and emigrated as an adult, so unlikely to have been much before the Great War.
My aunt has quoted me a letter from "a neighbor", with return address on Eric(?) Street, Chicago, in 1930 stating that Thomas's daughter Shirley had died aged about 5 -- but I don't have the exact date of the letter, so don't know whether Shirley will have made it on to that year's census. The same letter states that Thomas had been working at "the shelter" for the last 5 years, so they'd probably been in the area for a while. We also know there was a son, Bruce, born in the early 1930s.
I'd be extremely grateful if anyone could locate any useful information about this family. I know I'm asking a lot, but my dream package would include 1930 census record for Thomas Taylor and family (presumably at least wife, whose name I don't know), marriage record for Thomas and said wife, birth/death records for Shirley and birth for Bruce. As I say, I know it's a big ask, but I'd be hugely grateful for anything at all.
Cheers!
Mike
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Hi Mike
I believe that this is your Thomas
1930 census
I have a copy of this info if required
Agnes
Best wishes
Agnes
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Thanks, Agnes, looks good. :D
I especially like the look of "Secretary, Social Service" -- chimes well with "the shelter"! ;D
Cheers!
Mike
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Mike,
You can check here for obits etc.
http://tinyurl.com/sylfj
death record here:
http://tinyurl.com/eok4m
genealogy here:
http://www.mollx.com/
http://www.chicagogenealogy.com/
Susan
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Thanks, Ohio Susan -- useful links.
Looks like I can find Shirley's death -- there's an entry for Shirley Grace Taylor with death date 1930-08-04, which looks really good as Grace was Thomas's mother's name.
Going back to that census entry, can someone confirm my interpretation (since this is my first US census record!). It looks to me as though Thomas Taylor and Alice Rossiter must have married in Canada c1924, where Shirley Grace was born about June 1925. This means they must have crossed the border to the United States in the 2nd half of 1925, with Shirley as a babe-in-arms. From the dates of first marriage, and the presence of "daughter-rd" ??? Phyllis Warren, I'm inferring that Alice was previously married to a Mr Warren :o
Heigh-ho! Looks like I'm off to bother our Canadian colleagues ;D
Thanks all -- this has been most helpful.
Mike
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The way I see it:
1910 Rossiters in England - May born they imm. in 1923
1910 Alice is 16 Alice marries at 18 = 1912 I think she married Mr. Warren in Eng
1916 Phyliss b Canada
So I guess Alice and Mr. Warren must have imm to Canada between 1912 and 1916
Mr. Warren dies or what ever
Shirley b abt 1925 in Canada
Thomas and Alice must have married around 1924 in Canada
1962-01-09
Chicago Tribune (IL)
Alice G. Taylor, dear mother of Bruce E. Taylor and Phyllis A. Muir;
grandmother of Kimberely. Resting at Marshall Funeral Home, 4817 Chicago avenue.
Service Wednesday, 11 a.m. Interment Acacia Park cemetery.
Thomas not mentioned so not sure she is your Alice.
Susan
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FYI
Per SSDI
Phyllis A Muir b 7 Mar 1916 died 31 Aug 1992 Chicago Cook Illinois
So I think the obit for Alice is your Alice
Susan
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Ohio Susan, you're a star! I failed to find that obit on a quick search -- I can't have been broad enough with my details.
That's definitely my Alice -- the combo of Phyllis and Bruce as children would clinch it for me, even without the additional info on Phyllis. Looks like Thomas was probably deceased by then -- he'd have been 69, so that's quite likely. I wonder whose daughter Kimberley was?
And a middle initial for Bruce, which might prove invaluable -- I can even hazard a guess that it might be for Edward, as Thomas's brother Edward had drowned in Alberta, Canada, the year before I believe Bruce was born.
It's really Bruce I'm after -- my aunt would like to know if he's still alive (possible -- he'd be 70ish) as if so he'd be her nearest living relative outside of immediate family. She knows he was corresponding with one of Thomas's sisters in England up until her death in the 1970s, and was at that time living in Canada (again -- real border-hoppers these Taylors!), but that's about it.
This has all been immensely helpful -- looks like I need to see if I can get any help with the Canadian end, now....
Cheers!
Mike
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Thomas Taylor signed up for WWI, living in Winnipeg, mother listed as Grace:
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc016/627953a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc016/627953b.gif
They indexed this as b. 16 Mar 1893 but it looks like it could be 14 to me.
Checking Manitoba records, Alice Grey Rossiter m. Arthur Warren 12/14/1912, Winnipeg. (http://web2.gov.mb.ca/cca/vital/Query.php )
An Arthur Warren d. aged 38 9/07/1923 in Winnipeg - possible?
Thomas Taylor m. Alice Grey Warren, 8/20/1924 in Winnipeg.
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Flippin' 'eck, you people are wonderful!
That's him right enough -- he was b. 14-Mar-1893. The other entries look like the goods too.
So he was in Canada by 1915 -- that certainly narrows down the years I need to search for an arrival. Plus which I've now got a height for him, which will help immensely in searching the passenger lists. I couldn't be more grateful -- many, many thanks.
Mike
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1966-07-04
Chicago Tribune (IL)
George Muir, beloved husband of Phyllis A.; dear son of Maggie and the late James; brother of Alexander B.; nephew of Betty Baird. At Williams Funeral Home, 12 Lake street, Oak Park. Servcies Tuesday, 1:30 p.m. Interment Acacia Park. Masonic services under auspices of Austin lodge No. 850, A. F. & A. M., Monday evening, 8 p.m. 848-8788.
So I guess Kimberley was a Taylor, since she's not mentioned here?
1979-10-01
Barbara Taylor, nee Falduto, fond wife of Bruce; dear mother of Kimberly, Donna and Christopher; sister of Florence Pasturski, Carmella De-Rosa, Eleanor Cesario and Bernadina Lombardo. Lying in state Tuesday, 10 a.m., til time of service 11 a.m., at Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, 2035 N. Windsor, Arlington Heights. Visitation Monday, 4 p.m. to 9:30 p.m., at Friedrichs Funeral Home, 320 W. Central Rd. at Northwest Hwy., Mount Prospect. Interment Memory Garden. 255-7800.
Possible? SSDI shows a Barbara Taylor b. 14 Apr 1937 d. Sep 1979 (fits with obituary 1st Oct), which would make her the right age for a wife of Bruce.
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Hi Mike
I have sent a PM with a possible Bruce!
Best wishes
Agnes
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Just thought I'd post here to say that Agnes' possible Bruce looks spot on as the birth date she quotes matches the one I already had as probable.
Sadly, my aunt rang the number given today to discover that Bruce died a few years ago -- however, we are hopeful of further contact from one of his children, so this may still prove to have been an ongoing success.
Even if we get no further contact, it's great just to have traced the line this far -- immense thanks to all of you who helped.
Mike
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One last thought - that address on "Eric" street should probably have been "Erie" street - on the near north side of the city (Just north of the Chicago River from the Loop) runs east-west and is very close to, and parallel with, Hirsch.
Mary