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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: maryderry on Sunday 26 March 06 17:06 BST (UK)
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looking for any info. on stewarts of culmore derry. john stewart was my gr.grandfather, i guess he would have been born c1860s. he was a protestant and when he married my gr.grandmother mary doherty a catholic he was disowned by his family. love to find some info. on him.
help! i tried to put this pic on my profile, but as you see it did not work. the photo is my grandmother ellen mclaughlin (nee stewart 1886-1974) daughter of john & mary stewart. granddaughter of william&rebbeca stewart.george& mary doherty.
mary.
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Mary:
Not sure if this helps.
St Patrick's Catholic Church, Parish of Iskaheen, Diocese of Derry
1858-1901
1883 Nov 25 John Stewart Who abjured the errors of heresy'
1884 Oct 2 Mary Dorcas Stewart, John Doherty, Mary Doherty, Mary Tullyarden
1886 Oct 1 Ellen Stewart, John Doherty, Mary Doherty, Mary Ballynagard
1891 Dec 5 John Stewart, John Doherty, Mary Jane Toland, James Shiels, Catherine
1897 Mar 26 Nicholas Stewart, John McCann, Grace Bradley, Sarah Ture, Muff
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/iskqu.htm
Good luck,
Pat
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thanks pat,i dont know enough about them,to say if its them or not, but i will keep it for futher ref.
many thanks again, mary.
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Mary
I am not sure if this will help but my Cleary family lived at the Culmore Fort, the were Catholics and their records are found at St. Patrick's church, Parish of Iskaheen, Diocese of Derry. Two of their sons married Daughters of Thomas Mosson and his wife Sarah Doherty of Derry and Glasgow. Some of their descendents went back to Ireland and the family lived in the Holly Bush area. Researching Cleary, Mosson various spellings, McGeehan and Martin's. The Baptism records at St. Patricks look like they are your Stewart family.
Sincerely, Tiffany
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hello tiffany, thanks for your message. you were right,the stewart baptisms are the ones i was looking for. i saw them some time ago. have you any idea were to get the marriages for that church.
kind regards mary.
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I would suggest the Derry Genealogy Center. I had an online report which cost about 100.00 dollars and had most of the information already but they were good. I had a marriage date for one of my GGG Aunts from an announcement, and it matched the marriage they found for me in Church records. I think they will look or copy one record also. They are on the internet. This is what they found for me.
database of civil marriage registers records the following marriage entry:
Married: 28 October 1879 in Iskaheen Roman Catholic Chapel, County Donegal
John Clery, carpenter of Culmore to
Catherine Moss, seamstress of Londonderry
Father of Groom: John Clery, boatman
Father of Bride: Thomas Moss, shoemaker
Witnesses: Margaret McLaughlin and Ann Doherty
this is what I had
John Cleary
and
Catharine Mosson
were
United in Marriage,
at Iskaheen, Donegal Co., Ireland
October 28th A.D. 1879
Rev. Develin P.P. Officiating
I am sure this was at St. Patricks as that was the family church.
Good Luck
Tiffany
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Hi again Mary:
You might be able to get the details from http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/birthdm.htm
"Iskaheen - St Patrick's Catholic Church, Parish of Iskaheen, Diocese of Derry 1858 - 1901. Surnames A to C, D, E to K, L to P, Mc, Q to end. The Original data was submitted by Jean Goddard, to whom I am very grateful for such a great resource for Muff and Moville Upper. Please email for any further information on individual entries."
Might be worth a try.
Pat
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Hello
I noticed you are also searching Hasson and Quigley . My great grandfather William Quigley sister Bridget from Culmore , Ballynagard married James Hasson son of Thomas Hasson and Mary Doherty about 1893 .
All the best
Brian
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Hello Mary,sorry I see you put this post on sometime ago,I have only just seen it,you say the picture you put on is the granddaughter of William and rebbeca Stewart,do you now if rebbecas maiden name was lynch,because my ancestors where William and rebbeca Stewart,who were married in ballyarnett church in 1849,I know William and rebbeca had several children including Thomas,Alexander,Rebecca and William jr,who is my great great grandad,hope this may help,kind regards Dean Wells
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Link to the 1849 marriage-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1849/09372/5394499.pdf
Both living in the townland of Ballyarnett [sic].
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/north-west-liberties-of-londonderry/templemore/liberties-lower/ballyarnet/
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Hello Dean,I am almost sure William Stewart & Rebecca Lynch are my gr.gr grandparents.I have my grandmother's birth cert.on it it says Rebecca Stewart present at her birth.looking for John steward's birth cert. The only one that I could find that matched his age at death was 25-11-1864 the parents were William Stewart & Rebecca Lynch. John Stewart was my gr.grandfather
Regards Mary.
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Hello Mary,this is the information I have so far,William and Rebecca were my great great grandparents as well,they were married on 22/11/1849 at ballyarnett church,Williams dad is listed as James Stewart,Rebecca dad is John lynch,their witnesses were Patrick toner and John crompston,I can only find 4 children for them at the moment,Thomas(born 1850),William jr(my great grandad -born 3/11/1851),Alexander(born 2/3/1858) and Rebecca jr(born 4/2/1860),I cannot find your great grandad John at the moment but they had such large families that it takes time to find everyone,please let me know how you get on,it is very nice to find a new potential family member,kind regards,Dean wells
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....Williams dad is listed as James Stewart,Rebecca dad is John lynch,their witnesses were Patrick toner and John crompston....
See reply #9 for the marriage link.
William's father was John Stewart. Rebecca's father was William Lynch. Both were labourers.
The second witness's surname seems more like Crampton.
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I found William's & Rebecca marriage too,John Crompton is the name of one of the witnesses births I found to William & Rebecca Thomas 1850,William 1851,John 25-11-1864
I live about five minutes from the church William & Rebecca were married in.
Regards Mary.
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Hello Mary,thank you for your information,it was your church reverend alastair rosborough who sent me William/Rebecca marriage details from their church records,he told me their parents where James and john,apologies if this is incorrect,but I was acting on the information he gave me,he also gave me the information on their children Thomas,William,Alexander and Rebecca,these children were all baptised in ballyarnett with parents listed as William and Rebecca.Rebecca junior went onto marry John Nelson in your church on 13/1/1888,father listed as William and a witnesses Thomas and Matilda Stewart,kind regards Dean
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hello Dean,Im sure we are related,although I live only five minutes from Ballyarnett church Im not a member of this church.
John Stewart was presbyterian was then baptised into the catholic church to marry my gr.gr. grandmother Mary Doherty who was catholic.I found his baptism as an adult into the catholic church in st Patricks catholic church,parish of Iskaheen muff co.donegal. on the baptism.john stewart 25/11/1883 who abjured the errors of heresy,(have no idea what that means)
John Stewart birth born 25/11/1864 address Ballynaguard parents William Stewart & Rebecca lynch.
I live in Derry,so not to far from ballynaguard.
who did your gr.gr. grandfather William marry?
regards Mary.
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Hello Mary,yes I am in agreement,I am sure we are related as well,my great great grandad William,son of William and Rebecca,firstly married Eliza kelly,who sadly died quite soon into their marriage.he went onto marry Jane Anne Steele in ballyarnett in 1892,William had I think 6 children,Christy,Eliza,john,Mary,Sarah and Alexander(who is my great grandad),he was born in ballynaguard in 1895 and married my great grandmother Margaret Gray,Alexander and Christy went onto emigrate to Canada and both I think lived there for the rest of their lives,Christy certainly married and had 5 children in Quebec,kind regards Dean
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Dean you may already have this information.
I see William married Eliza Kelly 1877 they had seven children six survived.
Death of Eliza Stewart age 34
Dec.8th 1889 at Ballynaguard Wife of William Steward Labourer cause of death double pneumonia
Margaret Kelly sister present at death.
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Here are the links to your statements-
I see William married Eliza Kelly 1877 they had seven children six survived.
Death of Eliza Stewart age 34
Dec.8th 1889 at Ballynaguard Wife of William Steward Labourer cause of death double pneumonia
Margaret Kelly sister present at death.
Marriage 1877
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1877/11134/8076990.pdf
Death 1889
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1889/06125/4749083.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1889/06125/4749083a.pdf
Ballynagard townland
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/north-west-liberties-of-londonderry/templemore/liberties-lower/ballynagard/
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From KG links we can see that Eliza MC had the name as Kelley as did the witnesses Mary Ann and Robert Kelley. Her sister Margaret reported the death and this name is written as Kelly.
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Hello Mary,I was passing the information onto you,very sorry,I was not sure how much information you have,5 of the children I listed William had with Jane Anne Steele as sadly Eliza had passed away when they were born,my great grandad Alexander was born in 1895,his mother was Jane Anne.Alexander had one child and adopted another with Margaret Gray,their son Terence,born 1924 in Belfast was my grandad,kind regards Dean
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hello again Dean, this is the children that William had with Eliza Kelly/Kelley.
Rebecca jane 06/07/1878
William 09/11/1880
Joseph 02/01/1882
Margaret 21/07/1885
Annie Eliza 15/02/1887
john 29/09/1888
all born Ballynaguard.
regards Mary.
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Hello again to you Mary,really so nice to hear from you again,thank you so much for William and Eliza children,I did not know this so thank you very much Mary,I am not sure how much you know about what happened to Williams children with Jane Anne Steele,his second wife,but Christie his son married Lillian white in Quebec and had 5 children there,Williams other son,Alexander,my great grandad,,also emigrated to Canada,but I cannot trace his death,I know he died in Montreal in the 40s or 50s,as I told you Alexander married Margaret Gray and had a son Terence,who was my grandad,my grandad Terence moved to England and had his family there,that is where I live England,I am extremely proud and love my Irish roots,kind regards Dean
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Dean,do you know where your grandfather married & to whom.
Have you ever been to Derry?
Regards Mary.
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There are some discrepancies in this information-
Rebecca jane 06/07/1878
William 09/11/1880
Joseph 02/01/1882
Margaret 21/07/1885
Annie Eliza 15/02/1887
john 29/09/1888
Rebecca jane 06/07/1878
Her birth registered as Jane.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02953/2081873.pdf
William 09/11/1880
William born 9 October 1880. Registered 11 October 1880
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02852/2045010.pdf
Joseph 02/01/1882
His birth - 12 January 1882. Registered 13 January 1882
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02794/2025500.pdf
Annie Eliza 15/02/1887
Her birth registered as Eliza.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1887/02571/1950656.pdf
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Thank you very much for that information kiltglassen,it is extremely interesting and had helped massively,so much appreciated,kind regards Dean
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Hello Mary,not a problem,not sure if you know about my great grandad firstly but Alexander Stewart married Margaret Gray on the 5/12/1923 at st Mary's church in Belfast....my grandad Terence Leo stewart(Alexander and margarets son) married my grandmother Beatrice millman,who was born in Kidderminster, on the 26/6/1943 at st Ambrose Roman Catholic church in a town called Kidderminster in Worcestershire,England,they had 4 children,sadly my grandad Terence passed away in 2011 and my grandmother Beatrice passed away in 2001... I have never had the pleasure of visiting Derry although my grandad always said what a beautiful place it was,kind regards and have a lovely day,Dean
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Hello Mary,I tried to private message you but I am not great on laptops,would you have any old pictures of our family which you could show,also have you ever been to England,because down the family tree a couple of our ancestors moved and had families here,kind regards Dean