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Title: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: cookson on Sunday 26 March 06 14:32 BST (UK)
hi. got back to my grt grt grt grandfather , William Drummond in COMRIE Perth, and Margaert McEWAN. Does this ring any bells with anyone please.  :)
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: emunro on Monday 15 January 07 14:24 GMT (UK)
Hi There
Can you tell me of dates for William Drummond and Margaret McEwan?
Did they have a daughter Janet Drummond?
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: hume on Monday 15 January 07 14:30 GMT (UK)
There's two marriages between a WILLIAM DRUMMOND and a MARGARET MCEWAN in Comrie. You'll need to give us more details to which one it is. ;D

William Drummond
Spouse: Margaret McEwen
Marriage:  14 AUG 1796   Comrie, Perth, Scotland

William Drummond
Spouse: Margt. McEwen
Marriage: 31 DEC 1834   Comrie, Perth, Scotland
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: cookson on Monday 15 January 07 16:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Hulme, the william drummond i am looking for was married circa, 1796, had a son William, who came to live in Hull, Yorkshire, married a Hannah Rayner. Any Links? Janice.
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: cookson on Monday 15 January 07 16:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Emonro, William and Margaret, were married circa 1796, had son william, who came to live in Hull, Yorks, married Hannah Rayner. Regards. Janice.
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: hume on Monday 15 January 07 16:48 GMT (UK)
I don't have any links with the family but here's a list of William and Margaret's children, including your William.

William 18/10/1795
John 8/10/1797
Donald 23/6/1799
Duncan 07/6/1801
Alexander 20/3/1803
James 6/1/1805
Christian 21/9/1806
Donald 19/12/1813

All christened Comrie. There's quite a gap between Christian and the second Donald so there may be more.  :)
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: cookson on Monday 15 January 07 21:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Hume, thanks very much for that info, got me right up the tree with that, will check it out. Many Thanks. Janice. ;)
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: crdrummond on Saturday 02 January 10 13:14 GMT (UK)
Sorry I have picked up this chat thread rather late, but I have also just started researching my family tree.

William Drummond (born 1795 in Comrie) I believe was my great great great grandfather.  I have quite a lot of the family tree pieced together down the line of:

William - John Martin (son of) - James Edwin (son of) - Harold (son of, and my grand father), but it would be great to get details of other branches of the tree, and indeed go back further than William's father and mother, William Drummond/Margaret McEwen if possible.

Hume, I note you appear to have access to census records (?) as you have details of their children.  Can you point me in the direction of where I may be able to search through the records (if available) - I'm very new to this and so could do with some tips!  I'm finding it especially difficult to get details of people residing in Scotland (and, on my mother's side, Ireland), though information on English ancestors seems easier to come by (at least back to 1840 or so).

Thanks and happy new year!

Catherine Drummond
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: hume on Wednesday 06 January 10 14:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Catherine,

The following is a very good and comprehensive list of what's available in Scotland, and the information the records hold. You'll find that Scottish records are really helpful with details, at least after 1855. Before that year, details will depend on parishes; some with lots of details and others with the barest.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html

hume :)
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: crdrummond on Wednesday 06 January 10 19:04 GMT (UK)
Thanks hume - I have now registered and am looking around the site.  Out of interest, it looks like the census data only goes back to 1841, but the info you provided on the Drummonds dates before 1795.  Can I ask where I should look to start tracing this far back?
Apologies if I'm missing the obvious!
Catherine
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: hume on Thursday 07 January 10 14:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Catherine,

This information came from the International Genealogical Index (IGI for short). They have a lot of Scotland's Old Parish Records and also have the statutory birth and marriage indexes from 1855 to around 1874. Original images of the registers do need to be viewed on ScotlandsPeople though. :)

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

From a post from fellow RC-er Gadget recently:

Go to Family Search, Search page

Select International Genealogical Index from the left hand menu

Enter the parents' names in the right hand boxes where it says Father and Mother

You can narrow down your search using counties but this may not be the best idea, especially if your family moved from place to place.

hume :)
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: skems0 on Sunday 16 January 11 18:25 GMT (UK)
I think that more info can be had (*)
My great-great aunt was a Catherine (Katie) Drummond who had a sweet shop in Comrie in the late 1800s.

Regards

weetroot

(*) Moderator's Note: link to business website nothing to do with this thread removed
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: Neil Drummond on Thursday 12 March 20 20:05 GMT (UK)
Hi There
Can you tell me of dates for William Drummond and Margaret McEwan?
Did they have a daughter Janet Drummond?
hi. got back to my grt grt grt grandfather , William Drummond in COMRIE Perth, and Margaert McEWAN. Does this ring any bells with anyone please.  :)
William Drummond  m MS Mcewan  james d  janet d campbell d
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: cookson on Thursday 12 March 20 20:52 GMT (UK)
Hello, my, William Drummond, was born,comrie. Perthshire, 1768.
Margaret, McEwan, was born, also, 1768, Comrie, Perthshire.
Children...william
john
donald
duncan
alexander.
james
christian blair
donald
catherine.       cant see a Janet.... Regards. Janice,
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: Neil Drummond on Thursday 12 March 20 21:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Janice my William Drummond  & Margaret S Mcewan no dates   James 1795 auchterarder  Janet no date  Campbell 1813 trinity gask  William was my 4 greatgrandfather sorry if no help  Neil                                                                                                                                   
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: kirkys on Saturday 28 March 20 21:59 GMT (UK)
 William Drummond born 1766 Comrie Perthshire and Margaret Mcewan born abt 1760 they married on 14th August 1796 in comrie Perthshire Scotland .Their son   William Drummond was born in 1797, Comrie Perthshire Scotland was my Great ,Great ,Great,grandad ,he married Hannah Rayner she was born in Hull about 1800 ,their son my Great, Great  grandad was Thomas Drummond ,Thomas was living In Town street Falsgrave Scarborough in 1861 Richard Drummond lived next door to him , Thomas was living at 38 Duncombe street Grimsby. On the 1911 censor Richard was living at
     160 Kent St Great Grimsby
Parish    Great Grimsby
Town    Great Grimsby as someone on this tread wanted to know where Richard was living  ,

                   
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: cookson on Tuesday 31 March 20 19:29 BST (UK)
Hi there, happy to receive your post regarding the Drummonds.
Richard Rayner James Drummond , was born in Hull, circa, 1825. he was your Thomas Drummond, brother, they moved to Scarborough,  your Thomas moved to Grimsby i believe,
Richard Drummond, was my great, great grandfather, got lots of Drummond info if you would like it.
Richard was living in Scarborough in 1901 census....
Regards    Janice...
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: lanarman on Tuesday 31 March 20 21:11 BST (UK)
I have a Mary Drummond born 1764 to Alexander Drummond and Margaret McEwen in Comrie. Siblings John, Gregory, Christian and Margaret according to SP.
Does this Alexander fit into anyone (on this board)'s tree? Has anyone done a DNA test I could compare to? (I am not 100% positive that these are the parents for my Mary Drummond but they are the only ones on SP that fit).
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: kirkys on Thursday 02 April 20 13:20 BST (UK)
Here is a photo of my Great, Great ,Grandad Thomas Drummond along with my Great, Great ,Grandma Margaret Clarkson ,THomas Drummond was my grandmothers  Grandad, his Daughter Sabina Drummond was my grandma' s mother, Sabina married Robson Clarkson ,and Margaret Clarkson in the photo was Robsons mother .My grandma is in the photo too ,Alice Clarkson with her son Jack Porritt,who was born in 1901 ,so this photo was probably taken around 1905 ,Janice your Richard would have been a brother to my great great grandma Sabina Drummond ,and Thomas in the photo would have been your Richards dad as well ,regards Sandra 
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: cookson on Sunday 05 April 20 14:55 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra, thanks for the post, we have right family, just wrong order. Just to clarify, my great, great, grandad, was Richard Rayner James Drummond, born, Hull, Yorkshire, 1827, to William Drummond, and Hannah Rayner.
Later if Scarborough.
Siblings of Richard, were..
William,
John
Henry
Sarah Ann
Thomas Dawson Drummond..
Sabina would be the niece of Richard, cousin to my great grandmother
Mary Elizabeth Drummond...
Regards
Janice.,
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: RobertR on Monday 13 April 20 18:34 BST (UK)
Hi All,

Now that I'm retired and in lockdown, I'm picking up the threads of research I started 15-20 years ago. I let it lapse for too long (work got in the way!). I recall contacting someone with a common ancestry at the time - might have been you, Janice?

From my research I got back to William Drummond and Hannah Rayner in Hull, who was my GGG Grandfather. Their son RRJ Drummond's daughter Edith was my mother's Grandmother. I did a lot of digging at libraries and records offices in Yorkshire, even visiting old addresses including tracking up to Robin Hoods Bay and Ravenscar.

However, with William I could only ever find him coming from "Scotland" - no more information than that other than his age and the fact that he was bankrupted in 1822 or '23.  The Comrie Drummonds always appeared to be the most likely candidates for getting further back, but so far I've been unable to validate the link.

Has anyone got any corroborating evidence of this link? We were hoping to do a 'grand tour' of Yorkshire and Scotland this summer to do some more research, but that looks increasingly unlikely in the present circumstances.

Thanks
Bob
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: kirkys on Saturday 09 May 20 19:37 BST (UK)
hi Janice,so your g/g/grandad Richard Drummond would have been a brother t o my g/g/grandad Thomas Drummond who is in the photo I put on this thread,I will have to see if I can fish out some old photos ,you never know ther e might be one of them together somewhere,my aun Ena kept loads of old family photos,she always said our Drummonds had links to Stirling castle x
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: RobertR on Saturday 09 May 20 21:19 BST (UK)
Stirling Castle. Now that's interesting! Our family tales from Great Grandma is that we were to remember that we were descended from the HIGHLAND Drummonds. To hear the stories from a couple of other sources does reinforce those connections.
Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: towittowoo on Wednesday 20 May 20 11:49 BST (UK)
Hello Everyone
Just to add more Drummonds of Comrie to the mix

Donald Drummond married Isabella McNab in Comre 21st. July 1794
Baptism dates of following children - all in Comrie
Elisabeth 16th. Dec 1705
Isabel 13th. Jan 1799
Margaret 02nd. March 1800
John 18th. Apr 1802 married Christina McEwan  21st. May 1837 in Muthill
Thomas 04th. Jan 1807
Donald 20th. June 1810
Cathrine 20th. Nov 1810
Stay Well
Tom Buchanan

Title: Re: drummonds in comrie perth
Post by: HarryFreeman on Monday 15 August 22 19:14 BST (UK)
Hi and sorry about the late response - I have a ggg ggfather from Comrie in Duncan Drummond born 1776

His father also Duncan Drummond born Comrie ….

I’m wondering where these two fit in.

One of my Duncan’s married a Katherine Mailor if this helps…