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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: jere on Saturday 25 March 06 15:44 GMT (UK)
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has anyone have any idea if there is a web site for the salvation army people that served with them.
jere, :-[
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This is very difficult. Most of the records of Salvation Army Personnel were lost.
There is a website and a centre where you can go in London. They do charge quite highly for using their facilities.
The only way to trace people who worked for them is to search through individual copies of Warcry and it isn't indexed.
I have the same problem - trying to trace a Captain with them :'(
Information here:-
http://www.rootschat.com/links/09e/ (click on Family History)
Some Officers' Career Cards (summary of appointments and promotions) have survived, but many, especially from the early years, have not. Many records were lost when the International and National Headquarters in London (101 Queen Victoria Street) were destroyed during the Second World War. When Career Cards have not survived, officers' appointments and promotions may be listed in The War Cry, or The Officer magazine.
Don't know if local branches could help you
Tricia
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hello tricia.
thank you for this information
regards jere. :(
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There is a little booklet (67 pages) entitled;
MY ANCESTORS WERE IN THE SALVATION ARMY
which was written by Ray Wiggins and published by SOG and the IBSN reference is ISBN 1 85951 406 5 which might be of use and............. on the other hand........... writing to the Salvation Army International Heritage Centre at 117-121 Judd Street King's Cross WC1H 9NN yielded a wealth of information about my SA ancestors without any cost to me .......... they sent me sheaves of old WAR CRY publications in which my ancestors were mentioned.
This was in 1997 and things quite possibly have changed since then.
I did make a donation for the help received.
The SA Archivist who sent me the detail was Gordon Taylor.
I do hope that this might prove fruitful.
joboy
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Didnt WDYTYA have a section on the Sally army when they looked at Jeremy Paxman - maybe try the get the book that accompanied the series from the library
Anna x
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Didnt WDYTYA have a section on the Sally army when they looked at Jeremy Paxman - maybe try the get the book that accompanied the series from the library
They went to a local branch - can't remember which one
Tricia
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It was in Glasgow but I thought they mentioned other places that these records were - or was it just my imagination
Anna x
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The Salvation Army official records are sparse and have lots of gaps. A more comprehensive listing can found at http://www.sawiki.net/index.php/Welcome_To_SAWiki
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The SA is a quite large organization and it is imortant to get your email message to the correct department.
The easiest way to do this is via this link;
http://www2.salvationarmy.org.uk/uki/www_uki.nsf/fm-contact
A small donation would be appreciated and,if you wish to do this,there is provision on the above link.
Joe
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The SA is a quite large organization and it is imortant to get your email message to the correct department.
The easiest way to do this is via this link;
http://www2.salvationarmy.org.uk/uki/www_uki.nsf/fm-contact
A small donation would be appreciated and,if you wish to do this,there is provision on the above link.
Joe
Actually the Salvation Army's view on past records is not that helpful ... there are several high-ranking officers who consider the past to be unimportant. You may also find them unable to release information for fear of breaching "data protection". Sorry to sound so negative.
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I dont think you are negative at all ..... just expressing an opinion.
Understanding that the Salvation Army was only formed in the latter part of the 19th century there would be a high degree of reluctance to pass on any thing that might conflict with present day attitudes.
My own particular instance was to get as much as I could about an ancestor who was a prominent bandmaster at Regent Hall so I wrote to the SA Heritage Centre at 117 Judd St. London in 1995 and they sent me a whole wealth of photocopies of 'The Bandsman' and 'The Songster' dating back to June 1910 which carried articles about him which,at times,included details of the death of his wife and subsequent remarriage and names of his children which I just would not have obtained at that time from any other source.
As I said in an earlier post I have to hand a copy of 'My Ancestor was a Salvationist' written by Ray Wiggins and published by the SOG in 1999 and I note that it no longer exists in SOG publications.
Times have changed I guess as you have found.
Joe
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My own particular instance was to get as much as I could about an ancestor who was a prominent bandmaster at Regent Hall so I wrote to the SA Heritage Centre at 117 Judd St. London in 1995 and they sent me a whole wealth of photocopies of 'The Bandsman' and 'The Songster' dating back to June 1910 which carried articles about him which,at times,included details of the death of his wife and subsequent remarriage and names of his children which I just would not have obtained at that time from any other source.
I congratulate you that you were able to get this information. When I have made enquiries of Salvation Army centres in a certain locality I was advised to contact my local Salvation Army and in any case they would not release the information as it was deemed to be classified. I found my information through looking at Kelly's Directory, but it was a lot more general that what you were seeking.
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I found my information through looking at Kelly's Directory
One does wonder what possibly could be "classified" if the same inforamtion is listed in the Kelly's Directory!
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This FAQ might be of assistance http://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/uki/HeritageFAQ
at least it does address your point.
I would think that the FOI act would not cover anything over 100 years assuming of course that there is any information at all about individual soldiers at the local corps.
From your current information there appears to be little,if any,detail regarding the 'soldiers'.
They seem to have some records of officers.
Good Luck,
Joe