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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: von1 on Friday 10 February 06 02:52 GMT (UK)
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Hi,im searching for my Father,i have never met him.
His name is Albert Donald Timmins,he probably goes by the name Donald or Don.
He lived in Buxton Derbyshire.
Married to my Mom,Sally Jean Grindy.
I was born Aug 18th 1950.
I have been searching since the late 60s with no luck.
Can anyone help me please?
Any information,no matter how small would br greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Von
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Dear Von
Have you tried the Salvation Army. They can be very good at finding people, if they want to be found.
Good luck
Linda
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Hi Von,
Have you tried searching for him on electoral rolls on a site such as www.192.com ?
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Hi,im searching for my Father,i have never met him.
His name is Albert Donald Timmins,he probably goes by the name Donald or Don.
He lived in Buxton Derbyshire.
Married to my Mom,Sally Jean Grindy.
I was born Aug 18th 1950.
I have been searching since the late 60s with no luck.
Can anyone help me please?
Any information,no matter how small would br greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Von
Hi Von,
The GRO (Government Record Office) offer a service called "Traceline" for people looking for lost relatives. You have to phone them first, to discuss it, - before they will send you an application form. I believe that they charge a flat fee of £30.00 for the service.
Best Wishes, Romilly.
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Thank you all for you're help,i really apprecite it.
Im now living in the U.S.A. so it's evan harder for me to search.
But you have given me some good idea,thanks again.
Von.
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Hi Von,
I come from Chapel-en-le-Frith - 6 miles out of Buxton. 99% of all the people in that area read the local paper 'The Buxton Advertiser'. Why not put an advert in there and see what happens? The paper is online at www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk
HTH - good luck - Vanda
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Vanda,thank you so much,i really appreciate this.
I will do that.
Von.
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Hi Von and welcome to RootsChat!! :)
I wonder if you would be interested in looking for the Timmins family a little further back than your Dad?? you may find more family that you never knew about !!
we'd be happy to help if we can ..... !!
Annie :)
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Hi Annie.that sounds wonderfull, ;D
I would need help as i've never done a search before.
I dont really know anything about the Timmins side of my family,as you know i've never even met my Father,my Mother would never talk about him. :(
Thank you once again.
Von. ;D
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Hi Von,
This looks as if it could be the reg. data for your parents' marriage:
Albert D Timmins spouse Grindey (note sp), Dec q 1949, Chapel-le-F, 10a/1470.
There is a suggestion on another posting that Chapel-le-F refers to Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire, just north of Buxton, Derbyshire.
Vanda's suggestion is looking good!
Anyway, if you send away for this certificate it will give you the names of parents, ages etc and get you started on the Timmins family.
Cheers,
Ros
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Hi Ros,that certanly looks like it.
I was born in the August 1950.
Now im getting really excited.
Thank you so much.
Von.
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Hi Von,
You will keep us informed of any progress you make won't you.
Sat here with my fingers crossed :O)
Best wishes & good luck, Vanda X
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Hi Von
Will PM you with phone nos addresses which may help
Suz
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Hi Von,
Interesting to read your full name. I thought mmm, perhaps they called you Veronica because they liked the name, Jean after your Mum, and Daisy after someone on his side of the family.
Sure enough, there in the 1901 census is a Daisy Timmins living at 6 Stables (?) St, Derby, Derbyshire:
Mary Timmins, 33, head, mar, b Ireland
Walter J, 8, Kent
Daisy M., 7, Kent
John, 4, Derby
Benjamin, 2, Derby.
Just a hunch - dreadfully unscientific - but I'd be very interested to know if your grandfather turns out to be either Walter, Benjamin or John!
Don't forget to let us know how you get on!
Cheers,
Ros
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Thank you all so much,i really appreciate all this and i will certainly let you know how i get on. ;D
I live in Seattle on the west coast,so im 8 hours behind you. ???
I will play around more tomorrow on the computer and let you know what i come up with,if anything.
I've been searching for my Father most of my life and you have givien me information i could never find before,when im in England next i will buy you all a drink. ;)
Take care.
Von. ;D
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Hi,i found out a few things about my Father.
His full name is Albert Donald Timmins,he was born on December 17th 1925 at 6 Oddfellows Cottages off Market street Buxton.
His Father ...Albert Percy Timmins Corn Merchants Carter.
His wife,(My Grandmother)Gertrude Daisy Timmins,Formerly Prince.
If anyone has anymore info they can pass onto me id really appreciate it.
Thank you.Veronica Timmins (Von)
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Good for you Von!
1901
Hilton
Albert P Timmins 4 months Grandson Hilton Derbyshire
RG13/2636 Folio 90 Page 4
Name Gertrude Daisy Prince
Year of Registration 1893
Quarter of Registration Jan-Feb-Mar
District Chapel En Le Frith
County Derbyshire
Volume 7b
Page 815
This means she'd be 10 when she got married ..... :-\ plus wrong husband - but has to be a relation - don't you think !!
Name Gertrude D Prince
Year of Registration 1913
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname Hallows ??
District Chapel En Le Frith
County Derbyshire
Volume 7b
Page 1611
Annie :)
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Name Gertrude Daisy Prince
Year of Registration 1893
Quarter of Registration Jan-Feb-Mar
District Chapel En Le Frith
County Derbyshire
Volume 7b
Page 815
This means she'd be 10 when she got married ..... :-\ plus wrong husband - but has to be a relation - don't you think !!
Name Gertrude D Prince
Year of Registration 1913
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname Hallows ??
District Chapel En Le Frith
County Derbyshire
Volume 7b
Page 1611
Annie :)
Or about 20 maybe Annie?
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hi von you could try the derby evening telegraph ,its a daily paper
and every week or fortnight they bring out a suppliment called bygones ive seen people asking the same sort of questions as your self so they or a reader may be able to help ill get you the address etc as ive got to go back to work good luck in your search
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Duh!! - you're so smart Gardener!!! ;) ;)
It was late when I wrote that!!
Annie :) :)
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O.K,just found this info in an old letter i found while cleaning out a dresser,i dont know if these are correct.
My Mothers Mum..Olive Mary Bassett.
Her husband (My Grand dad) Charles Frederick Grindey,
..Im still doing searches,it's the most frustrating thing,but it's fun and exciting as you never know what you will find.
Von.
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hi von sorry for the delay www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk :)
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Hi Von
You could try the website http://www.b4usearch.com/ if you click on the yellow word 'people' and enter his name in every combination you think he might be using.You also have to put a county,so be methodical and work your way though them all. It will take some time,but what else do you have to lose?
Alternately what address did you last have a definite siting of him? You might be able to get someone to look up the electoral rolls or local phone books from back then to a more recent time.Usually available at the local library.
Do you know if he remarried(I presume he is no longer married to your mum?)
He will obviously be easier to pin down if you know who he might be living with.
And my last option is Friends Reunited. http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/
Good luck
Carol
PS I missed the 2nd page of this :-[ so sorry if any of the questions are not relevant but some ideas here in any case. ;D
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Hi Von,
Just to add to Carol's post, - I managed to trace a cousin by requesting a Look-up (on here) on the UK InfoDisc. A kind person on here who had a copy looked them up for me.
Good Luck!
Romilly.
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Romilly,
I've tried that and he's not on there!! ::)
Well not as Albert D Timmins-his 'official' name.
Hence the question does Von have any idea who he lives with.
I think a smart move might be to buy a copy of the parents marriage cert-it'll confirm and address and give his fathers name.
Maybe we can then trace him through his fathers death.
By the way Von my hubby was born 16 Aug 1950. ;D
Regards
Carol
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Romilly,
I've tried that and he's not on there!! ::)
Carol
Sorry Carol!!
(I must admit that I hadn't read back through all of the thread...& so must have missed it).
And I think that you're right about the Cert being the next step forwards.
Cheers, Romilly.
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I know my Mother grew up in Sunny fields Buxton and my Dad lived right next door,seems they were child hood sweethearts.
My Mothers Brother still lives in the family home there,a t.v. station went to visit this Uncle a few years ago but he said he didnt know where my Father was.
How do i go about getting a copy of my parents marriage licence?
As i mentioned i now live in the U.S.A.
Do you have an address where i get the certificate from?
Thank you for all the help you are giving me.
Von.
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hi von go to http://www.gro.uk/ and follow the instrutions
for 1940s/50s you dont need a page or volume number
the certificates cost 7 pounds sterling ;D gig
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Von
I presume you were an only child........when did you last see your father?
Where was he living then?
It may sound like a strange question,but we need to establish where he last was,if we are to look for a further marriage .........or sorry to say this,but you also have to prepare yourself for the fact that he may have died.
Easy enough for one of us to look through a few marriages on Ancestry.com
Now they're free of course ;)
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=8965
Please be aware that the GRO is a bit behind with sending out certs.we have had a very succesful television series called Who do you think you are,which has prompted loads of people to start tracing family members.
Regards
Carol
PS what's it doing in Seattle weatherwise?
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Hi Carole,sorry i didnt post earlier.
Im not sure where my paprent were living,but it was somewhere in Buxton,from what i can gather my Mother left my Father and moved to Shrewsbury,she left me behind in Buxton in a childrens home.
I did hear that the last time anyone saw my Father was when he went to Buxton for his Fathers funarel in 1969 i believe,no one has seen him since.
He is probably dead by now,but it would be interesting to see if he ever remarried and had more children.By the way,my Mother died in the May of 2000.
Von.
Von
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There are two people called Timmins living in Buxton.If you look on 192.com ,it will give you the address' of them ,as well as the telephone numbers.
It may be worth a go ,at the very worst ,they won't know anything.But it is not a common name and they may be able to help.
Hope this helps as I have a cousin in the same situation who would dearly love to find out about her father ,but sadly it is not to be .
Wishing you good luck
Ninky
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Hi Von,
I've merged your other thread with this one to keep all the info in one place (Replies #15 - #20)
Have you seen this topic:
Topic: Timmins - Dudley
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,1672.0.html
I don't know if you have enough to go on yet, to make any connections with them,
but it's worth a look, and maybe an ask :)
Good luck,
Bob
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Hi Carole,the weather here is pretty nice,sunny and warm,although it looks like we may get a shower later.
By the way,im not an only child,i believe my mother had another child with my father,his name is Don,my mother went on to have more children with my step father.
My Father is probably going by the name donald or don.
I have a very confusing life dont i?..lol
Von.
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Hello Von
Seems you are correct,your parents did indeed have another baby.
Donald L Timmins mothers maiden name Grindey,was born in Stockport(Cheshire) in Sept 1952 ref number 10a page 729.
There is a person of that name on the 2003 infodisk.However using one of the more recent directories does not find him.
I am going to PM you with the address I've found,and its up to you if you want to take the slight chance that...
A, It's the right person
B, If he's no longer there,someone knows where he went to.
Going to look for your grandad's death info now.Glad we know what his name is........didn't realise you had another thread going alongside(Thanks Berlin Bob ;D)
All the best
Carol
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Hi Carol,i think that info is wrong,my brother Donald was born (*) though.
Unless my Mother was lieing,which she did alot of to hide her past.
I did hear that my Father was always in trouble with the law and i seem to remember someone saying he went to prison,again not sure if this is true.
I dont know what prison,as im sure they would have records.
Thanks.
Von.
(*) Moderator Comment: edited, as possibly still alive
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Hello Von
It could still be him........that date is when the birth was registered and would have been any time during July/Aug/Sept 1952.
Carol
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Carol,thanks,this is getting more exciting by the day.
I will write to the address you gave me for Donald L Timmins,it could certainly be my Brother.
Von.
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Von,
Your grandfather Albert Percy Timmins who was born on 7 Nov 1900,died in Stockport in the SEpt 1/4 of 1970. Ref is Volume 10a page 1400.
You could get the cert and find out if he left a will-by writing to the
Principal Probate Registry
LONDON Probate Department
Principal Registry of the Family Division
First Avenue House
42-49, High Holborn
London WC1V 6NP
Tel: 020 7947 6939/6043/7431/7414/6946
Email : maria.boulby[AT]hmcourts-service.gsi.gov.uk
Maybe your dad's name was mentioned as informant or perhaps grandchildrens names if they were beneficiaries.
The most up to date address we can find him at for definite the better.
Carol
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Von
I'm sorry to say but I think I've found his death.
Don't forget it's those who are left who give the info-which may not always be spot on.They may not have known the exact DOB or the person may have tried to pretend they were younger than they really were.
Albert Donald TIMMINS died in the March 1/4 of 1980 in Cambridge.
His DOB has been given as 18th Dec 1930......and the ref for the death cert is
Volume 9 page 0622
The death cert will usually give you a family members name ie wife or child.
If you wished to apply for the cert,and managed to get a name and address from 1980,please post again and I'll seeif I can find any family members.
Hope this helps in your search for the truth ,even if it's not from the person you had hoped to hear it from.
Regards
Carol
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Hi Carol,thank you for doing all the searching for me.
It makes sence that my Father is dead,i always knew that was a possability.
Yes please help in finding family members,i would really appreciate that,i may have brothers and sisiters out there.
Thank's again.
Von.
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Hello Von
You will have to order the death cert with the reference numbers given,and then post the info or PM me later.
Happy to help.
If I find anything else out later I'll let you know.
All the best
Carol
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Hi Von,
Sorry to read that that your father may be dead, if you do try to trace further, here are a couple of points, 1 In Ireland Timmins can also be spelt Timmons, 2 ,another site set up for tracing people in the U.K. is www.missing-you.net
Bodger, Co. Cavan
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Thank you all for this help.
I will order the death certificate and see what comes up on that.
You have all helped me so much and you have found out more for me than i could find in all the years i've been searching.
I appreiciate all of you,you are great helpfull people.
Von.
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Von
I'm sorry to say but I think I've found his death.
Don't forget it's those who are left who give the info-which may not always be spot on.They may not have known the exact DOB or the person may have tried to pretend they were younger than they really were.
Albert Donald TIMMINS died in the March 1/4 of 1980 in Cambridge.
His DOB has been given as 18th Dec 1930......and the ref for the death cert is
Volume 9 page 0622
Carol
There is an Albert D Timmins, mother's maiden name Barrett, birth registered March qtr 1931 at Liverpool. He could be the one who died in 1980 perhaps. Hard to tell :-\
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Oh dear,that's thrown a spanner in the works hasn't it?
I've been searching the marriage indexes,and so far have done from 1960-70.
As yet found nothing. ::)
Carol
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Hi Von,
have just come across your post as I have a very strong interest in the Grindey/Grindy name.
I know you are more interested in finding out about your father but if you ever want to get further back with your Grindey ancestors I would be glad to help. All my Grindey ancestors come from the Ashbourne dist and it looks like yours do too!!!
Charles Frederick Grindey b. 1902 Ashbourne dist vol 7b page 725
Olive Mary Bassett b. 1907 Ashbourne dist vol 7b page 708
Charles Grindey married Olive Bassett 1927 Ashbourne dist 7b page 1043
All the best Angela.
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Wow! rootschat strikes again, it's like a serial, I hope it has a good ending, the rootschatters are the best
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Hello Von
I don't know how you've progressed with your search, but I decided to take a sideways look (always best) and found that your father had a brother Alfred B Timmins born September qtr 1922 (checked births from 1920 to 1928). I don't know if anyone can do a lookup on InfoDisk for you as he might still be alive, at least it's another direction to look in.
Mike
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Mike,
Well done...and good thinking.
If Von wants to PM me I can tell her what I've found on infodisk.
All the best
Carol
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Hi Von,
I came across your post whilst searching for info on my grandmother Olive Mary Bassett and my grandfather Charles Frederick Grindey. I never thought I would come across a cousin, but it would seem I have missed you as you haven't logged a post for some years. If you ever read this, please contact me.
To Anjo,
I relished the info you left for Von and was wondering if you had anything else on Charles Frederick Grindey born 1902.
Looking forward to hearing from both of you. Fingers crossed.
Clare.
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Hi Clare,
I am still not 100% sure on Charles parents but what I DO know is that he is a distant relation of mine.
Charles is living with his Aunt in 1911 and she is my great great grandfathers half sister. My Hunch is that charles is the son of Charles Grindey and Mary Jane Riddle but have no proof of this. (Charles is also a half brother of my great great grandfather). Charles junior (b. 1902) had a brother John Owen Grindey and a sister Margaret Annie Grindey. (If I have the correct parents)
Please get in touch and let me know what you know about this family would love to know more and if we have the right connection I can fill you in with all I have on this line of Grindey's
Look forward to hearing from you
Angela