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Title: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: elisabethroberts on Wednesday 22 March 06 08:54 GMT (UK)
I've posted a request for help on another genealogy forum and had no response but I know how helpful people on here are, so hopefully someone can help.
Marion Rennie(born Alva, Stirlingshire, Scotland in 1822) married William McIntyre(also born in Alva in 1822) in Alva in 1843.They emigrated immediately to North America. I have found Marion buried in Kincardine Cemetery, Bruce County in 1877. A 1999 post on another forum states that they came to Ontario and then to Buffalo N.Y. and William died in 1899. I am trying to locate them in any census to establish what children they had. I couldn't find them on Ancestry.com. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Elisabeth
Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: KarenM on Wednesday 22 March 06 14:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Elisabeth,

There is a William McIntyre on the 1871 Census, born c1823 in Scotland living in Kinloss, Bruce South.  His occupation is a sawmiller.  It's just list's heads of household so you would have to look at the original to see who else is living there.  Mircofilm #C-9934, page 90.

Karen

Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: elisabethroberts on Wednesday 22 March 06 15:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Karen. I'd found that entry,but was hoping for something earlier as I don't suppose many of their children would still be with them 27 years after they emigrated and I don't have access to a local LDS library. Am I right in assuming that the chances of finding records of births before the 1860s are slim?.I really don't know where else to look-this is my first venture into Canadian records.

Elisabeth
Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: KarenM on Wednesday 22 March 06 15:10 GMT (UK)
Ontario registered births start at 1869, deaths 1869 and marriages 1858.

Do you think perhaps any siblings of William or Marion came to Canada as well?

I found a death registration for Marion McIntyre born Scotland c1823, died in Bruce County, but the date of death is November 10, 1890.

Do you think any of their children stayed in Bruce County or did they shuffle off to Buffalo with the father?

Karen
Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: elisabethroberts on Wednesday 22 March 06 17:54 GMT (UK)
None of Marion's siblings moved out of Alva.Her brother was my great great great grandfather. Marion's widowed mother had 2 illegitimate children(by different fathers) living with them in 1841. I don't know about William Mcintyre's family. Someone very kindly checked the cemetery records for Kincardine cemetery" McIntyre, Mrs. Marion, Kincardine, D. April 30 1877, 54 years, native of Moa(!), Sterlingshire, Scotland, emigrated to America May 31 1843, wife of William McIntyre. B1. A. , lot 30". Wouldn't it have said Canada if that was where they emigrated to?. I wonder if that forum post in 1999 got it the wrong way round and they started out in Buffalo and then moved to Canada.
Maybe I'm looking in the wrong country's census records!
Elisabeth
Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: KarenM on Wednesday 22 March 06 18:03 GMT (UK)
Hmm, that's strange about the 2 Marion McIntyre's.

Well, you couldn't blame them if they left Buffalo for Canada, sure it's the Queen City, but wouldn't want to live there  ;D  (my best friend lives in Tonawanda, so I can say that  ;))


Have you checked the Canadian census for them?  What are some of the names, perhaps they passed them on, quite a few McIntyre's in Bruce County.

Karen

Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: elisabethroberts on Wednesday 22 March 06 18:19 GMT (UK)
I tried every variation of McIntyre I could think of  in the various Canadian census years. Most of the right age came from Ireland-I didn't realise there were so many Irish Mcintyres. I couln't find a Marion and William from Scotland together. All Marion's family stuck to the Scottish naming pattern for children- first son should be Donald after William's father, first daughter Isabella after Marion's mother, next son James after Marion's father, next daughter Janet after William's mother, then a William and a Marion. The maiden name of Marion's mother might get put in as a middle name-it was Dawson.
Thanks for your help,
Elisabeth
Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: KarenM on Wednesday 22 March 06 18:50 GMT (UK)
Well, I found this?

Birth for

Isabella Maria McIntyre
Date:  Sept 16, 1871
Father:  Donald McIntyre
Mother:  Ann Jane McIntyre
County of Bruce

Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: elisabethroberts on Thursday 23 March 06 07:59 GMT (UK)
Well done, Karen! I'll follow that up this morning. Many thanks.
Elisabeth
Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: elisabethroberts on Thursday 23 March 06 16:00 GMT (UK)
No go with that birth-they're on the 1881 census for Bruce County
 Donald MCINTIRE  47   born Scotland   Farmer   
 Ann Jane MCINTIRE  33  born Scotland   
 Isibella MCINTIRE      9  born Scotland   
 Donald Geo. MCINTIRE  7  born Ireland   
 Hugh M. MCINTIRE  5  born Ireland   
 John Alford MCINTIRE    3  born Ireland   

That means Donald was born in 1833

Elisabeth
Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: KarenM on Thursday 23 March 06 16:10 GMT (UK)
Well, at least we can rule out those McIntyre names. 

Will check for more.

Karen
Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: J.J. on Monday 07 June 10 20:56 BST (UK)
I know this is an old thread, and you may have all this already, but will post anyway: http://search.labs.familysearch.org

James Rennie Mcintyre died Dec 5,1927 Rochester, Olmsted, Minnesota
Age 69 born circa 1858 no birthplace stated
Spouse: Catherine Mcdonald Mcintyre
Parents William Mcintyre /  Marion Rennie
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B02493-7
Source Film Number: 2223132
Reference Number: 10189
Minnesota Deaths and Burials, 1835-1990
a descendant:
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.huron/4332.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx
James Rennie McIntyre born in Bervie on 12/17/1856 married  in 1879 Fargo, ND

John Mcintyre died Dec 2 1916 Spokane, Spokane, Washington
Age 71 years 8 months 26 days / born 1845 no location stated
Parents: Wm Mcintyre / Marion Rennie
Film Number: 1992417
Digital GS Number: 4220843
Image Number: 2064
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: cn 1027
Washington Death Certificates, 1907-1960

http://www.jenforum.net/mcintyre/messages/161.html
Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: J.J. on Tuesday 08 June 10 01:13 BST (UK)
and by the way, we share NORTH America with the U.S., ( & 21 other countries...and then there's also South.America) so I have no idea why "America" might only apply to them? Perhaps not being able to add "ians"  or "ites" prompted them to adopt the whole continent ;D  J.J.
Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: elisabethroberts on Tuesday 08 June 10 06:36 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for finding those posts-the Ancestry boards one was new to me. I've managed to contact a great great grandson of Marion Rennie and he has been able to give me details of Marion's descendants in Canada and the United States. It's been a long search but very educational.
Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: polarbear on Wednesday 09 June 10 00:19 BST (UK)
Hi Elisabeth

I found the following prior to reading your recent reply but I thought I would post it anyway....

1861 Census for Canada

Canada West Bruce

William McIntyre 40 b. Scotland Occupation Sawyer Mill
Marion 39 B. Scotland
John 15 b. U.S. (this would be the United States)
Isabella 12 b. U.S.
William 7 b. U.S.
Janet 6 b. U.C. (this would be Upper Canada, now called Ontario)
James 5 b. U. C.

Polarbear
Title: Re: Bruce County, Ontario
Post by: elisabethroberts on Wednesday 09 June 10 05:56 BST (UK)
Thank you for taking the time to look that up, Polarbear.

Elisabeth