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Hello :D I wonder if anyone can help my gt gt grandmother Emma Lower is said to have been born in the Star in Alfriston her father George Lower is said to have owned it can any one tell me where I can find a list of past owners
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You'd be very lucky to find a convenient list online. First, when was this? Armed with the date, you could look up the directories for the period. The local library would be able to help if they're not on www.historicaldirectories.org
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Hi,
Have you tried contacting the pub, it has it's own web site which gives a brief history of the place and also a lovely photo of the building.
Bee :)
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Hi there I have tried to contact the pub & so has various others in the family but all we are met with is deathly silence I Have seen lists for old pubs & their owners/landlords in northwich & I wondered if such a list existed for other parts of the country & to the other lady who replied the year was 1853 when Emma was born ???
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here is a photo of Emma lower not a very good on but it is on the computer
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http://steve.pickthall.users.btopenworld.com/ssx1867/alfriston1867.html - well, by 1867 it was run by James Page. 1855 on historical directories also gives James Page at the Star, and 1851 also.
Do you have Emma's birth certificate? That should give an address for her birth and father's occupation. You might be able to confirm at least part of the story from that.
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Hi there,
I would have thought the place to start would be either the brewery if the place was a "tied house" and/ or the county archives office.
Good luck.
:)
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Hi
The record office near to Alfriston would be a good starting point, they may well have a licensd vitular book, if this book has survived and been handed in it will list the person that owned the public house.
Perhaps the father owned the public house but didn't run the business himself? This might explain why he is not listed in the trade directory.
Contact east Sussex record office and ask if they one and give the name and dates you are interested in - they may look for you.
The pub may have changed hands serveral times and been taken up by a bigger brewery, which could mean that the original deeds have gotten lost on the way (this often happens unfortunately) - this may be why the silence when you contacted them before.
Lemon
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Hi Leolinedancer and Welcome to Rootschat :)
I would encourage you to follow up all the good ideas you have been given here. Lemontree's suggestion of the East Sussex Records Office is a really good one (they prob. have an e-mail address for inquiries if you search for them on line) as I had a similar instance with a relative and if they brewed beer on the premises (and at the time you are talking about they probably did) they had to have a license issued by the local authority - in my case they even had her signature on the court register, which they showed me. ;D
Good luck
Wendi
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Hello there thanks to all the wonderfull people for their helpfull advice I have followed up most of it let you know how i get on Noreen ;)
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I agree with lemontree that your best hope is the record office. I think that you should be looking for to whom the licence was granted. I am not clear about the dates that you are talking about but the quarter session minutes and possibly the brewster session minutes should be looked at.
I think it is unlikely that the current brewery would be very much help. The pub is likely to have been in private hands and even if owned by a brewery would have changed owner many times since then. The legal departments of modern breweries have in general culled their records and very little depends.
The other place worth a look is
www.a2a.org.uk
where you may find some records of the pub changing owners.