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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: ontchick on Monday 20 March 06 17:35 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for any information on the following people:
DEBORAH SCARR m. Matthew Richmond Jan 30, 1694 in Askrigg, York
MICHAEL SKARR/SCARR m. Ann Exellby May 13, 1605 Saint Michael Spurriergate, York.
Would welcome any info on any SCARR / SKARR / SKAR family member.
Happy searching, Ontchick
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Dear Ontchick
I too am researching the Scarr tree so I guess we are related.
I take my Scarr family back to Jenkin Scarrr abt 1851.
Your time frame I have
George & Ann Scarr nee Clarkson married 1701
Ch: Janet, George and James.
My line continues through James b. 12 Jan 1713 Helm Yorkshire to Jane Cloughton 20 May 1745 Aysgath Nth Yorkshire. Ch. George and John (so far)
Cheers
Velcro
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Your Scarr tree intrigues me as I too have some of these Scarr/Skarrs in my tree.
I have James Scarr bap Jan 12th 1712 at Askrigg so of George Scarr and Ann (Cloughton) who married May 25th 1701 at Askrigg.
Then this James Scarr married Ellen Cloughton of Lambshill April 25th 1731 at Askrigg.
They had, I think, 10 children.
Their 7th child Betty Scarr married Jeffrey Dinsdale March27th 1776 at Askrigg and that is where I link up with this Scarr family.
Dinsdale's are one of my main areas of interest (although this particular lot are not a close link)
The 2 things which interest me on you tree are;
Firstly,I don't have any link or mention anywhere of a Jenkins Scarr.
Could you please give more details of him ?
Secondly, my records show that a James Scarr did marry May 20th 1745 but to a Jane Coulson/Coulton and not to a Jane Cloughton.
I do not know which James Scarr this is but it is not the one who married Ellen Cloughton as they were still baptising children at and after 1745.
I would welcome your thoughts on this as I may have mixed up some James Scarr's somewhere along the way.
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Dear Daniel
Hi cuz!
See if we can work this family out and have the correct records.
Can we find all 10 children of James Scarr?
This is what I have but nit saying it is 100% correct yet.
George Scarr b. 1674 Bainsbridge Yorkshire d. 8 jun 1733 m.
25 May 1701 Askrigg to Ann Clarkson
ch:
Janet b.? Helm d. 1704
George b. 1 Jun 1707 d.22 May 1761
James ch. 12 Jan 1712 Askrigg died 1792 m. (2nd question and answer)
1.Jane Cloughton m. 20 May 1745 Aysgath North Yorkshire
Ch: George b.?1751 m. Margaret Wilson ch: James,George,John & Jane
& John b.1753 Hawes Yorkshire m. Mary Irwin 11 May 1778 Patrick Brompton Yorkshire
2.Ellen Cantor m. 25 Nov 1730
Answer Your 1st question:
Jenkin Scarr b. about 1581 Burtersett Nth Yorshire m. about 1606 to Jane
Ch: George,Richard,unnamed,Matthew and John Jenkin
my line goes through
son John Jenkin b. abt 1607 m.? ch: John, Thomas, Clement,Isabel.
son Thomas b.? d. abt 1669 m. Margaret
ch. John,Abraham,Jane,Alice,Thomas.
Son John b. 1647 Satlling Busk & Burtersett Nth Yorkshire m. ? son George
son George b. ? m.Ann Clarkson 25 May 1701
ch: Janet, George & back to James.
Cant say all 100% correct as was passed onto me many years ago and now researching this family.
More the merrier to edit and add to this family so welcome aboard anyone with interest.
Find this site interesting
http://thedales.org.uk/old-photographs/
Cheers
Velcro
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Hi
Interesting!
http://thedales.org.uk/coleby-hall-askrigg/
Any names to faces here?
Cheers
Velcro
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Found this site:
http://www.joanclarke.co.uk/d_b.htm#1983
Velcro
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Posted once but did not come thru ?
So, to try once more :
These are the children which I have listed as of James Scarr and Ellen (Cloughton)
. JAMES5 SCARR (GEORGE4 SKARR, JOHN3, THOMAS2, JOHN1) was born 12 Jan 1712 in Helm see Askrigg PR. He married ELLEN CLOUGHTON 25 Apr 1731 in Askrigg see Askrigg PR, daughter of GEORGE CLOUGHTON. She was born in Lambshill.
Children of JAMES SCARR and ELLEN CLOUGHTON are:
i. ELIZABETH6 SCARR, b. 27 Jun 1731, Askrigg see Askrigg PR.
ii. JANE SCARR, b. 03 May 1733, Askrigg see Askrigg PR.
iii. WILLIAM SCARR, b. 24 Feb 1736, Askrigg see Askrigg PR.
iv. ANN SCARR, b. 29 Mar 1739, Askrigg see Askrigg PR.
v. ELLEN SCARR, b. 07 May 1741, Askrigg see Askrigg PR.
2. vi. GEORGE SCARR, b. 15 Mar 1745, Skellgill see Askrigg PR.
3. vii. ELIZABETH (BETTY) SCARR, b. 11 Aug 1750, Askrigg see Askrigg PR; d. 02 May 1833, Askrigg aged 85 see Askrigg PR.
viii. JANE SCARR, b. 03 Sep 1754, Askrigg see Askrigg PR.
ix. JOHN SCARR, b. 12 Dec 1756, Askrigg see Askrigg PR.
x. WILLIAM SCARR, b. 17 Jun 1759, Askrigg see Askrigg PR
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Dear Daniel
Thanks for that:
Been here?
http://www.scarr.org/yorks/WC_IDX/IDX001.htm
I also have Metcalfe families
George Metcalfe b. 1733 Durham m.Elizabeth Robinson from Hipswell dtr Henrietta m. Robert King
Dtr Elizabeth m James Scarr 1851.
Cheers
Velcro
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Do you have a copy of the Metcalfe Society "The History of the Clan" ?
If so, then Branch 14 might fit your needs.
If not, then:
George Metcalfe born c 1733 married Elizabeth Robinson 1768 at Coniscliffe.
They had 7 children.
They lived at first in Hipswell villiage but after the birth of their second child, they took over as millers at Hipswell.
The chart does not give the names of all his 7 children and names only:
Sarah Metcalfe born 1782 who married Robert Harrison
Robert Metcalfe born 1787 who married Elizabeth King
John Metcalfe born 1793 who married Mary Barbara Binks.
It does not mention you Metcalfe daughter Henrietta by name but could the Robert King she married be of the same family as Elizabeth King who married Robert Metcalfe ?
George Metcalfe born c 1733 was buried at Hipswell St John the Evangelist Sept 2nd 1829 aged 96.
There are 2 burials at St John the Evangelist which might fit his wife Elizabeth:
Elizabeth Metcalf buried July 31st 1827 aged 82
Elizabeth Metcalf buried Nov 15th 1818 aged 89.
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Hi
Seeking help with marriage records of Robert Metcalfe Scarr to Ruth Elizabeth Hargreaves.
1st born John George Scarr 1888 Cockerton Durham.ENG Also ch. records of Ruth's,please? She died 4 May 1935 Cockerton. B abt 1865 East Cowton?
Cheers
Velcro
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Daniel111,
I have been researching my Scarr family for almost 20 years (originally Roy Scarr and I collaborated) and (most) of my information is backed by documented proof (actual images of baptisms, marriage, death, wills, etc). I have evidence that James did indeed marry twice. First to Ellen Claughton 25 Apr 1731 and second to Jane Coulson 20 May 1745. Incidentally, James' parents were George Scarr and Ann Clarkson they married 6 Aug 1701 again I have this marriage record. What intrigues me is your statement:
......my records show that a James Scarr did marry May 20th 1745 but to a Jane Coulson/Coulton and not to a Jane Cloughton.
I do not know which James Scarr this is but it is not the one who married Ellen Cloughton as they were still baptising children at and after 1745.
Baptism records in most cases do NOT show the mother's name only the father. So how can you be certain that "they" (Ellen Claughton and James) were still baptising children after 1745?
Also, my tree is by far perfect but its backed by factual documentation so I tend to trust it (mostly ;) but I do not have 10 children to James and Ellen Claughton. In fact I have 2 children (John and Jane) to Ellen and 3 children to James and Jane Coulson (George, Ellen and Jane). Of course I am always open to adding other children if the documented evidence, rathe than hearsay is given.
In any case, I am more than happy to exchange information and data in regards to the Skarr/Skarr family. Please PM me to discuss.
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Good luck with your research.
I shall do my very best to avoid hearsay.
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Daniel,
Please accept my deepest apology. It is clear that I chose my words incorrectly. I did not wish to slight you in any way.
I simply meant, if there are documents to prove the other children then this would be acceptable. I didn't wish to infer your research was based on hearsay. It came out wrongly. What I meant to say was that I have communicated with many Scarr researches in the past and many cannot backup their data with proof. Often it is data obtained from other researchers who in turn have obtained it from someone else without proof. So, I meant to say, I would be happy to add and/or change my tree if backed up by documented evidence.
Anyway, after reading back my response I fully understand your anger.
But getting back to my quote, I am still intrigued. Maybe you have verifiable data that shows both parents at baptism. But my experience shows that rarely is the mother's name given in a baptism register. How are you certain that the baptisms between James and Ellen Claughton continued after 1745?
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Another Skarr member to add. I have Mary Alice Skarr who married John Eglin 21 Dec 1726 at Hawes. Other than this I have found nothing about her and would welcome suggestions to fit her into a Skarr or Scarr family Thank you
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Hello, my 11 x Grandfather is also Jenkins Scarr. Really interested in following this chat. This line comes down my paternals mother line.