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Title: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: lancs.fox on Thursday 16 March 06 16:37 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Does anybody know whether Minnie is a corruption of some other name?

I have someone called Minnie on a census but cannot find any birth or marriage reference for them, leading me to think that it was actually a 'pet' name.

Your help would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: jillruss on Thursday 16 March 06 16:39 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I would think it was either Minerva or Ermintrude, but I think it was also a name in its own right.

Jill
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: Kimi on Thursday 16 March 06 16:44 GMT (UK)
I alo have a Minnie and her name is "Minnie".  it's used several times in my family.

Kim
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: old rowley on Thursday 16 March 06 17:27 GMT (UK)
Minnie is the shortened version for Minerva and also for Wilhelmina.........Trudie is the shortened version for Ermintrude.........however since a mouse wearing a skirt and big ears came on the scene Minnie seems to be a name in its own right.

old rowley
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Thursday 16 March 06 17:29 GMT (UK)
According to my faithful book of names, Minnie was originally a Scottish pet form of Mary, as well as a short form of Wilhelmina. 

Rambler
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 16 March 06 17:42 GMT (UK)
My grandmother had a sister Minnie who was just a Minnie in her own right - long before Minnie Mouse appeared!!!

I guess it could be a pet name for many names

Tell us about your Minnie from the census (approx d-o-b, surname and place of birth) and we'll see what possibilities we can come up with for her)
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: Heather D on Thursday 16 March 06 18:06 GMT (UK)
Just to complicate things, my grandmother was an Emma and called Minnie or Min all her life :)

Heather
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: teap78 on Thursday 16 March 06 18:14 GMT (UK)
My Great grandmother was baptised Mary Lowry (1881  Belfast Northern Ireland)
she married  a Patrick McCann and on the 1901 census she is down as Minnie McCann, Wife.


Colette
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: Grothenwell on Thursday 16 March 06 19:38 GMT (UK)
My Mum was sometimes called Minnie, but more often Mina. Her full name was Williamina (not Wilhelmina), lots of Ina's on to male names were quite common at one point.
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: lancs.fox on Thursday 16 March 06 19:48 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

Thanks to everyone for your views - most helpful.

I'll start a fresh search for my relative's birth and marriage references using the various options mentioned (Minnie has produced no results so in this case 'Minnie' does appear to be a pet name).

Again - thanks for all your trouble.

Regards,

Richard
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: Isles on Thursday 16 March 06 20:27 GMT (UK)
Chambers Twentieth Century Dictionary in the section, Some personal names,gives Minna, May or Wilhelmina.

Isles
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: lancs.fox on Thursday 16 March 06 21:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Isles,

Thanks for that - May is a new one for me to look at.

Regards,

Richard
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: ozlady on Thursday 16 March 06 23:56 GMT (UK)
My g.aunt Minnie was Emmeline.
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: lancs.fox on Friday 17 March 06 00:12 GMT (UK)
Hi ozlady,

Thanks for that - another possible name to add to my research list.

Regards,

Richard
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: dennford on Friday 17 March 06 01:01 GMT (UK)
There was a Min' on the goonshow!
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: AnneMc on Friday 17 March 06 01:05 GMT (UK)
Hi

My mum's name is Minnie and it is not short for anything. Also my dad's mum was called Minnie as well.


Anne
Canada
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: tarajobrien on Friday 17 March 06 01:47 GMT (UK)
Hi

Another to add to the list. I have a Minnie which was short for Ameila.

Tara
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: Siouxzie on Friday 17 March 06 07:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Lancs fox
I asked that quesion when I first started. I looked for Wilhelmina's and variants.  It turned out my Minnie born 1874 BTM (Before the Mouse)was indeed Minnie.

Siouxzie
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: MarieC on Friday 17 March 06 07:47 GMT (UK)
lancs fox

Here is another one for you!  My ggrandmother was christened Camilla Denham.  I searched everywhere in the 1871 census for her, and then in some family reminiscences I found a clue that she may have been known as Minnie.  There she was, on the census, as Minnie Denham!  A pet name which made its way to the census instead of her proper one!

My mother was christened Minnie - I suppose, after her grandmother!

MarieC
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: Ninatoo on Friday 17 March 06 09:13 GMT (UK)
And....I knew a Minnie who was in fact Melinda!
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What? - COMPLETED, THANKS TO EVERYONE
Post by: lancs.fox on Friday 17 March 06 13:40 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

Thanks for all your comments and suggestions.

Plenty of food for thought for me.

Regards,

Richard
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: jillruss on Friday 17 March 06 14:25 GMT (UK)
Richard,

After all these suggestions, please let us all know if you do find your 'Minnie's' birth under another name.

Jill
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: Romilly on Saturday 18 March 06 17:37 GMT (UK)
Hi,

My Grandmother was a Beatrice Minnie, - & she used to tell us that it was after Minnie Haha, - from the Hiawatha poem...(I can't remember who wrote it though, - Longfellow possibly?).

Romilly.
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: Josephine on Saturday 18 March 06 18:47 GMT (UK)
I have a Mary Ann who was called Minnie.

My great-grandfather was called Tot because he was small:  it had nothing to do with his name!

Regards,
Josephine
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: gazza on Saturday 18 March 06 19:59 GMT (UK)
could also be Minette ,French influence.
Gazza
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: teap78 on Saturday 18 March 06 20:53 GMT (UK)
I still swear Minnie is short for mary  :)
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: MarieC on Sunday 19 March 06 08:30 GMT (UK)
Hi,

My Grandmother was a Beatrice Minnie, - & she used to tell us that it was after Minnie Haha, - from the Hiawatha poem...(I can't remember who wrote it though, - Longfellow possibly?).

Romilly.

Yes, I'm sure it was Longfellow, Romilly!

MarieC
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: AMC25 on Monday 20 March 06 16:12 GMT (UK)
My Mum was sometimes called Minnie, but more often Mina. Her full name was Williamina (not Wilhelmina), lots of Ina's on to male names were quite common at one point.

Suddenly a light went on in my head when I read this topic!
On the 1871, I've got a Minnie, then on the following census's she changes to Mina. I thought it was a spelling or transcription error but it all makes sense now....I didn't even think about the fact that it could be a shortened name!!
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: Romilly on Monday 20 March 06 16:25 GMT (UK)
Hi,
My Grandmother was a Beatrice Minnie, - & she used to tell us that it was after Minnie Haha, - from the Hiawatha poem...(I can't remember who wrote it though, - Longfellow possibly?).
Romilly.
Yes, I'm sure it was Longfellow, Romilly!
MarieC

Thanks for that Marie! (I was sort of 90% sure that it was Longfellow:-)

Btw...names like Millie/Minnie/Maisie seem to be having a bit of a resurgence in popularity at the moment... ;D

Romilly.
Title: Re: Minnie - Short for What?
Post by: lancs.fox on Monday 20 March 06 16:48 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

Lots of interesting replies there.

I started off this thread because I could not locate a birth or marriage reference for one of my family's ancestors, a Minnie, and wondered whether the reason was that it was no more than a 'pet' name.

It now transpires that the reason that the marriage reference was eluding me was because the Minnie in question died before marriageable age!  Her death is registered as 'Minnie'.  I have now also found a birth reference, which given the death information which is to hand, I feel confident about (also a 'Minnie').

Minnie does seem to have been a popular name of the period, whether as a 'proper' name or as a 'pet' name.


Regards,

Richard