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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: Cog on Wednesday 15 March 06 23:33 GMT (UK)
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searching for Harris members of my family in county cork, I have come across a place called Harrisgrove, County Cork (during late 1700's early 1800's) does anyone have any idea where this place is, or have they ever heard of it? Any information would be grateful - could it be that my Harris's owned their own Grove???
Carol
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Carol:
Harrisgrove was a townland in the Parish of Inchinabacky, Barony of Barrymore.
From Lewis:
"INCHINABACKY, or ROXBOROUGH, a parish, in the barony of BARRYMORE, county of CORK, and province of MUNSTER, 3 miles (N. W.) from Castlemartyr, on the road from Midleton to Youghal; containing 515 inhabitants. This parish comprises 1460 acres; the soil of the southern part is very fertile, forming part of the limestone district; towards the north the substratum is a yellow clay, but from the abundance of limestone has been rendered moderately productive."
And here is a mention of Harris of Harrisgrove so I guess your Harris did have an estate or something there.
1 / 2 June 1764. Henry Wrixon of Ballygibbon, Co. Cork did let to Thomas Harris of Harisgrove, Co. Cork all that & those plowlands of Gurrane MacGarrett containing 196 acres in B. of Duhallow. To hold during the natural lives of Charles Bastable & George Bastable sons of John Bastable now in Rockfield, Co. Cork & John Wrixon present major of Cork. L.117.19.3 yearly rent. Wit: Henry Lysaght of Cork, Willam Harris of Harrisgrove & William Bowan Webb of Mallow. rEg. 18 Jan. 1764. John Webb, dep. Reg.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:O-7q7l6bZbAJ:stephen.balsbaugh.name/genealogy/wrixon/okief/vol07.doc+harrisgrove&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=28
I believe that Midletown is nearby so you might enjoy this site.
http://www.corkancestors.com/MIDLETON.htm
Good luck,
Pat
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Hi Pat
Thanks a million "Pat to my rescue again!" I was amazed to find a reply so quickly! Looks like my ancestors were pretty well off eh?
I am having a lot of fun going through the sites you sent, in fact I am late for an appointment right now - how do you find em? (the websites I mean?)
Thanks once again - must run.......
Carol
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Hi Carol:
Glad to be of help. As to how I find them, creative googling plus a warped thought process. ;D
Let me know if I can help more.
Pat
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Hi Pat
Thanks very much I am sure to have more questions, and it is great to know someone out there cares!!!!
Am going to try some of that "creative" googling myself, truth be known I have already, obviously not quite creative enough yet! comes with experience and practice no doubt.
Thanks again - off for a google!!
carol
p.s HAPPY ST PATRICKS DAY !!!!
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And Happy St. Patrick's Day to you too!
The googling is only part of it now. Remember the warped thought processing. Maybe that is what they call experience, hmmm.
Pat
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Hello
I am also descended from Harrises in Cork, and related familes in Kerry.
These are the names I am researching:
HARRIS - BASTABLE - WRIXON - FENTON - DUCKETT - MAYBERRY/MAYBURY
Specifically, I am looking for information on these Harrises:
Dr Richard Harris, c1745 who migrated to Clonmel, Tipperary and listed in 1794 Tipperary Militia as the surgeon. Married Mary Fenton and had Richard, Henry, John, James, Anthony, Samuel, William, Mary, Ally, Bess and Harriett. The sons in this family were all in volunteer militia in preparation for French invasion which never happened. Eldest son Lieutenant Richard Harris married Mary-Ann Duckett, daughter of Thomas Duckett and Mary Mayberry from Kerry.
Youngest brother of Dr Richard Harris called Dr Thomas Harris, listed as the surgeon in the 1782 Cork Cavalry volunteer militia. Married and had Catherine Harris who married Sir David Perrier the Mayor and Alderman of Cork.
Anthony Harris who married Susanna Wrixon on 20 Sep 1771 at Ballindie Church, Cork. Don't know if this Anthony is related to the above families.
Some of the Harrises in my family have a forename of BASTABLE or a middle name of BASTABLE and I am still looking for the Harris-Bastable link.
Can you please post all the information you have on Harrises in Cork, especially BATHVIEW, MALLOW, ASSOLAS HOUSE, CASTLE MAGNER/MAGNOR, KANTURK, YOUGHAL, MIDLETON. These are the placenames which keep appearing on google for these protestant families in Cork.
I am curious about this place Harrisgrove and its history.
Cheers
A Stewart
Australia
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sorry for delay, I am away from home at the moment and have been banned from research for at least 3 weeks ! I will reply on my return home
carol
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happy holidays, look forward to your reply
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Hello Malc
firstly, many apologies for the delay in replying and thanks for taking the time to reply to my posting.
Unfortunately I dont have much at all on my Harris side. My GGgrandfather was born in Ringaskiddy. His family were mainly in the Royal Navy. Your reply has raised a question though, I always thought that my Harris's were catholic as he married a catholic, but what if he were protestant and converted, to marry my GGGrandmother ! I have been told that my Harris side originally came from Worcester/Gloucester area of England so this could make sense.
The only information I have on Harrisgrove is what is already posted.
Again sorry for the delay in replying
Carol
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Hello
I'm sorry to resurrect an old thread. I've only recently made progress on this side of my family. Hopeully there is someone out there who will see this.
I have discovered a family connection to Cork, it is very complicated.
My gggrandfather John Sudlow (1794 1850) from Liverpool married three times.
1 1824 Catherine Martindale widow of Joseph Martindale. Catherine had two daughters Mary and Josephine when she married. Catherine died in 1838.
2 1839 Annie Hobbs of Cork, from whom I'm descended. Annie died in 1842.
3 1846 Hannah Paget of Cheshire. Amongst others they had a son Henry William Sudlow.
John Sudlow died in 1851.
Mary Martindale married William Hobbs of Cork , brother of Annie Hobbs.
Josephine Martindale married Richard Harris of Lakeview, Blackrock, Cork and they had a daughter Rachel Georgina Harris who maried Henry William Sudlow.
Phew, I told you it was complicated.
Where I tie into this thread is through the Harrises. I can trace the Harris line to Assolas via William Prittie Harris. I have also come across the name Wrixon but I can't give you the connection right now. Was the house at Assolas was leased from a Wrixon?
All these people were protestants and I have it in mind that the protestant community in Cork must have been quite small. They seem to intermarry quite a lot.
Regards
Colin
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Hello
I think I may have linked up with your Harrises very remotely.
The link is as follows, I think
My indirect ancestor Richard Harris lived at Lakeview, Blackrock, Cork. His father was William Prittie Harris.
From the online catalogue of National Library of Ireland website:
Copy of confirmation of arms to the descendants of Richard Harris of Lisgriffin Castle, Co. Cork, and to his grandson, William Prittie Harris of Lakeview, Blackrock, Co. Cork,...
From a book by James Grove White 1903? In the chapter headed Lisgriffin Castle
The castle is on the farm of Mr. Patrick Frawley of Lisgrffin, who lives
in a house N.W. of the castle (1909). He is a brother of Mr. James
Frawley of Harris Grove (Farrancotter Townland) and of Mr. John Frawley
of Boanna, near oM Templemary Church. The present landlords (1909)
are Colonel C. L. Casey, late R.A.; A. E. C. Casey (Bengal C. S., retd.), and
their late sister's husband, S. Eardley-Wilmot, CLE., late Inspector-
General, Imperial Forest Service of India. It was purchased about 1857-59
by Mr. Casey (father of the above-mentioned) from the Annesleys of Annesgrove.
It is now being sold to the tenants under the Land Purchase Act of
1903.
So it looks like my Harrises came, at one time, from Lisgriffin Castle where, in the vicinity, is a place called Harris Grove.
Regards
Suds