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Can anyone find this family on the 1851-1871 census
1881
John BOWEN Head M Male 73 Chirbury, Shropshire, England General Labourer
Ann BOWEN Wife M Female 70 Worthen, Shropshire, England General Labourer Wife
Mary Ann BOWEN Gran Daur Female 12 Chirbury, Shropshire, England Scholar
RG11
Piece / Folio 5491 / 19
Page Number 10
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Hi Brian
..1851..
John Bowen 46 Head. Farm Lab b.Chirbury
Ann 40 Wife b.Worthen
Ann 9 Daughter b.Chirbury
James 7 Son b.Worthen
Mary 4 Daughter b.Chirbury
Thomas 1 Son b.Chirbury
Marton Village, Shrops
HO107/2498/276/2
Sarah :)
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1871 RG10/5621 F24 P11
Wortherton
John Bowen h m 62 aglab Chirbury
Ann w m 63 Worthern
Mary Ann g/d 2 Chirbury
Tazzie
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I don't know where they are in 1861 tried allsorts. Will have a go with this later.
Tazzie
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Hi Brian, Sarah and Tazzie,
Where in 1861? Wales!
It seems that Wortherton was deemed to be in Montgomeryshire in 1861 rather than Shropshire.
Anyway, here is the full entry:-
1861 Census
Wortherton, Montgomeryshire
John Bowen - Head - md. - 48 - Agricultural Labourer - b. Salop, Chirbury
Ann Bowen - w. - md. - 46 - Agricultural Labourer's Wife - b. Salop, Worthen
John Bowen - s. - unm. - 20 - Agricultural Labourer - b. Salop, Chirbury
Mary Bowen - d. - 13 - Scholar - b. Salop, Chirbury
Edward Bowen - s. - 7 - Scholar - b. Salop, Chirbury
Ref: RG9 / 4255 / ED2 / f.19 / p.10
Hope this helps.
Regards,
lancs.rose
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Well done lancs.rose
I tried all Bowen / Bower/ Brown/e combo's
Did not think of Wales -did not look at map . :)
Tazzie
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Hi Tazzie,
I didn't think to look at a map either, as the family had been located consistently in Shropshire.
However, based on recent experience on trying to find someone in Lancashire, but not finding them there and then looking at the Wales census as a total longshot and finding them in Glamorgan, I now try the Wales Census as a matter of course if the England one produces no results.
That policy generally fails - but on this occasion it produced the goods!
Regards,
lancs.rose
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Thank you all for your help
The ages are a bit confusing though ???
On the 1871 & 1881 census Mary Ann Grand-daughter where are her parents
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Hi Brian,
I wonder.......?
Could Mary Ann have been an illegitimate child of, say, Mary Bowen, as it does seem from the 1871 and 1881 censuses that the grandchild is being brought up by her grandparents, not merely visiting on census night?
Mary Ann would have been born around 1869, by which time Mary would have been 21 years old.
The only way to conclusively solve the question would be to obtain Mary Ann's birth certificate and see what her parentage was.
Just a thought on one possibility.
Regards,
Richard
(lancs.fox - who inadvertantly used my wife's 'lancs.rose' log-in last time and so used her moniker!)
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The Mary Ann Bowen is my grandmother. Her parents are James Bowen & Mary Jane Ashley. They also had a son William who can be found with his Ashley grandparents in Berriew, Wales. She came with her mother to United States in 1882. William stayed with Ashleys until 1893 when he also came to US. Still trying to find out what happened to James Bowen.