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Title: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Poll on Monday 13 March 06 12:05 GMT (UK)
Trying to trace relatives of Ralph Standing who emigrated to Detroit. Ralph was born c1861 Elkesley, Nottinghamshire, England, son of Thomas Standing and  Mary Bell. Both born Elkesley.

Also trying to trace relatives of Harry Bell cousin to Ralph who also emigrated to Detroit, Harry was born c1853 in Radcliffe on Trent, Nottinghamshire, England son of George Bell and Sarah Upton
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Genealiza on Wednesday 15 March 06 13:31 GMT (UK)
1930   Michigan   Waayne   Detroit   Dist 432
Roll 1049   Page 8A  Enum Dist 432    Image 608
4575 Seeboldt Street    Dwell 49   Family 63

Standing Ralph, head, rents, $55, has a radio, male, white, 68, widow, 28 yrs
                        old at 1st marr., can read, write, b. Eng, Eng, Eng, immig (blank)
                        Na(turalized), spks Eng, bricklayer, contractor, worer, worked
                        yesterday, not a veteran

                Pearl, dau, female, white, 32, single, can read, write, b. NY, Eng, Can
                        spks Eng, operator, telephone worker, worked yesterday

                Kathleen, dau, female, worker, 28, single, can read, write, b.Ny, Eng,
                        Can, spks Eng, no occup

                Ruby, dau, female, white, 24, single, can read, write, b. NY, Eng, Can
                         spks Eng, teacher, public school, worker, worked yesterday



1920   Michigan   @ayne   Detroit   Ward 12   Dist 364
Series T625   Roll 811   Pg 10B  ED 364   Image 138
1247 Grand River   Dwell 193   Family 223

Standing, Ralph, head, rents home, male, white, 60, marr, immig (can't read),
                         Na(turalized) year (can't read), can read, write, b. Eng, Eng,
                         Eng, spks Eng, brick layer, contractor, worker

                 Catherine, wife, female, white, 61, marr, immig (can't read) Na(tural-
                         ized), year (can't read), can read, write, b. Canada, Can, Can,
                         spks Eng

                 Pearl C, dau, female, white, 22, single, can read, write, b. NY, Eng,
                         Can, spks Eng, operator, telephone, worker

                 Kathleen, dau, female, white, 18, single, attends school, can read,
                         write, b. NY, Eng, Can, file clerk, automobile parts, worker

                  Ruby R, dau, female, white, 13 single, attends school, can read,
                         write, b. NY, Eng, Can, spks Eng, no occup


1910   New York   Erie  Collins   Dist 259
Series T624   Roll 939  Pg 89A  ED 259  Part 1
Dwell 322   Family 343

Standing, Ralph, head, male, white, 50, M1, 18 yrs, b. Eng, Eng, Eng, spks Eng,
                          mason, contractor, own account, can read, write, owns farm,
                          mortgaged

                Catherine, wife, female, white, 48, M1, 18 yrs, mother of 5 children,
                          5 children living, b. Canada(Gaelic), Scot (Gaelic), Scot (Gaelic),
                          spks Eng, can read, write

                Ruth, dau, female, white, 16, single, b. NY, Eng, Can, spks Eng, can
                          read, write, attends school

                Alexandria E, dau, female, white, 15, single, b. NY, Eng, Can, spks
                          Eng, can read, write, attends school

                Pearl, dau, female, white, 12, single, b. NY, Eng, Can, spks Eng, can
                          read, write, attends school

                 Kathleen, dau, female, white, 8, single, b. NY, Eng, Can, spks Eng,
                          can read, write, attends school

                 Ruby R, dau, female, white, 4, single, b. NY, Eng, Can


If you go to <www.rootsweb.com>, click on "search family trees".  There is someone who is possibly searching this family.


Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Poll on Wednesday 15 March 06 18:57 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the US census info.
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Genealiza on Wednesday 15 March 06 19:42 GMT (UK)
I found the 1900 census.  Are you interested in it?---Genealiza
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Poll on Thursday 16 March 06 10:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Genealiza,

Yes please, that would be great.  Any chance of finding anything on Harry Bell too?
Much appreciated.
Poll
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Genealiza on Thursday 16 March 06 11:36 GMT (UK)
1900  New York   Erie   Collins   Dist 232
Series T623    Roll 1033   Page 17A   Enum. Dist 232
(indexed Staing)
Dwell 289    Family 314

Standing, Ralph, head, white, male, b.Oct (?) 1862, 37, marr 8 yrs, b. Eng, Eng,
                          Eng, immig 1890, 10 yrs in US, stone mason, unemployed 1
                          month, can read, write, spks Eng, rents home

                Catherine, (wife), (white), (female), b. Oct (?), 1862, 37, marr 8 yrs,
                          mother of 3 childrend, 3 children living, b. Canada, Scot, Scot,
                          immig 1892, 8 yrs in US, can read, write, spks Eng

                 Ruth, dau, (white), (female), b. (?) 1893, 7 single, b. New York, Can,
                          Canada, at school, 4 months

                 Alexandria, dau, (white), (female), b. (?) 1895, 5, single, b. New York
                           Eng, Canada

                 Pearl, dau, (white), (female), b. (poss Aug), 1897, 2, b. New York,
                           Eng, Can

The words in (  )  I've added.  The page is very pale in some spots.
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Genealiza on Thursday 16 March 06 11:51 GMT (UK)
1930   Michigan   St Clair   Marine City   District 22
Roll 1024   Page 6B  Enumeration Dist 22   Image 1034
123 South Elizabeth St   Dwell 130   Family 143

Bell, Harry, head, owns home, valued at $4000, has a radio, male, white, 74,
                  marr, 26 yrs old at lst marr, can read, write, b. Eng, Eng, Eng, immig
                  1894, Na(turalized), spks Eng, no occup, not a veteran

        Kitty A, wife, female, white, 72, marr, 25 yrs old at 1st marr, can read,
                  write, b. Can, Can, Maine, immig 1922, Al(ien), can read, write, no
                  occup


1920  Michigan   St Clair   Marine  Ward 1  Dist 109
Series T625   Roll 795   Page 8B   Enumeration Dist 109   Image 276
223 Elizabeth St   Dwell 172   Family 178

Bell, Harry, head, owns home, free, male, white, 64, marr, immig 1894, Na(tur-
                 alized), 1913, can read, write, b. Eng, Eng, Eng, spks Eng, baker,
                 bake shop, worker

       Anne, wife, female, white, 63, marr, immig 1894, Na(turalized) 1913, can
                 read, write, b. Eng, Eng, Eng, spks Eng

Travis, Grace E, roomer, female, white, 80, single, can read, write, b. NY, NY, NY
                 spks Eng, teacher
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Genealiza on Thursday 16 March 06 12:08 GMT (UK)
1910  Michigan   St Clair   Ward 1  Marine   Dist 104
Series T624   Roll 673    Page 212B    District 104   Enum Dist 104   Part 1
Broadway Street   Dwell 399   Family 408

Bell, Harry, head, male, white, 54, M1, 27 yrs, b. Eng, Eng, Eng, immig 1893,
                 Pa(papers for immig), spks Eng, baker, own shop, employer, can
                 read, write, rents home

        Anna, wife, female, white, 53, M1, 27, mother of 8 children, 5 children
                 living, b. Eng, Eng, Eng, immig 1893, spks Eng, can read, write

        Henry S, son, male, white, 19, single, b. Canada, Eng, Eng, immig 1893,
                 spks Eng, ass't stateg(?) Agt, Electric Partner(?), worker, can read,
                 write

        Anna L, dau, female, white, 18, single, b. Canada, Eng, Eng, immig 1893,
                  spks Eng, sales lady, bakery shop, worker, can read, write



1900   Michigan   St Clair   Marine   Ward 1   District 90
Series T623   Roll 741   Page 13A   Enumeration Dist 90
Dwell  243    Family 271

Bell, Harry, head, white, male, b. July 1855, 44, marr 17yrs, b. Eng, Eng, Eng,
                immig 1895, 4 yrs in US, alien, baker, can read, write, spks Eng

       Anna, wife, white, female, b. Dec 1857, 42, marr 17 yrs, mother of 8 child-
                ren, 5 children living, b. Eng, Eng, Eng, immig 1895, 4 yrs in US, can
                read, write, spks Eng

       Hannah M, dau, white, female, b. Oct 1883, 16, single, b. Eng, Eng, Eng,
                immig 1895, 4 yrs in the US, can read, write, spks Eng

       John R, son, white, male, b. Apr 1885, 15, single, b. Eng, Eng, Eng, immig
                1895, 4 yrs in US, at school, can read, write, spks Eng

       Wilfred J, son, white, male, b. Nov 1886, 13, single, b. Eng, Eng, Eng,
                immig 1895, 4 yrs in US, at school, can read, write, spks Eng

        Henry G (?), son, white, male, b. Sep 1890, 9 single, b. Canada, Eng, Eng,
                immig 1895, 4 yrs in US, at school

         Anna L, dau, white, female, b. Oct 1891, 8, single, b. Canada, Eng, Eng,
                immig 1895, 4 yrs in US, at school
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: KarenM on Thursday 16 March 06 14:39 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

Saw there was a couple of births in Canada, not sure if you had this info but, I found births for

Henry Gough Bell
Date of birth:  Sept. 10, 1890
Father:  Henry Bell
Mother:  Ann Chant
Occupation of father:  Baker
Orangeville, Ontario

Annie Louisa
Date of Birth:  October 15, 1891
Father:  Harry Bell
Mother: Ann Chant
Occupation of Father:  Baker

Birth and Death for

Sydney Gough Bell
Date of Birth: March 14, 1889
Date of Death:  May 26, 1890
Father:  Harry Bell, Baker
Mother:  Ann Church
Orangeville, Ontario
Orangeville, Ontario

Orangeville is in the County of Dufferin

Karen

Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: KarenM on Thursday 16 March 06 14:46 GMT (UK)
Found a marriage for

Groom:  Ralph Standing
Bride:  Catharine Buchanan
Place:  Egremont Township
Date:  August 1, 1892
Registration Number:  004393

Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Poll on Thursday 16 March 06 15:07 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your help, definitely the correct Ralph Standing, I am not 100% sure on the Harry Bell, is there anywhere I can check for Harrys marriage details, as this may give me more detail, his parentage etc.
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: KarenM on Thursday 16 March 06 15:24 GMT (UK)
For the Harry that genealiza found, his first children were born in England so I would suspect he married in England.  There is a marriage for Harry Bell and Ann Chant in Yeovil, Sommerset in Dec. 1882 on Free BMD.

There is also a birth for Hannah Mabel Bell in Yeovil on Free BMD for Dec. 1883

Do you think your Harry was ever in Yeovil?

Do you have Ralph's marriage certificate?  If not I can get a copy next time I'm at the library if you'd like.

Karen
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Genealiza on Thursday 16 March 06 16:20 GMT (UK)
Here are the census listings for Harry Bell, born England, living in Michigan for the years 1900-1920.  This is from the Heritage Quest census index and they have yet to finish indexing the 1930 census.   I retrieved my information from Ancestry.com but their index adds in too many other people and databases.  If you don't think this is your Harry, is there someplace else he could be living?----Genealiza

1900

 BELL  HARRY 29 M W ENGL MI SHIAWASSEE  5-WD OWOSSO  1900
 
    BELL  HARRY 45 M W ENGL MI ST CLAIR  1-WD MARINE CITY  1900



1910

 BELL  HARRY 39 M W ENGL MI SHIAWASSEE  1-WD CORUNNA  1910
 
    BELL  HARRY 54 M W ENGL MI ST CLAIR  1-WD MARINE  1910
 
 

1920

 BELL  HARRY 47 M W ENGL MI SHIAWASSEE  1-WD CORUNNA  1920
 
    BELL  HARRY 64 M W ENGL MI ST CLAIR  1-WD MARINE  1920
 
    BELL  HARRY 46 M W ENGL MI WAYNE  18-WD DETROIT  1920
 
    BELL  HARRY G 27 M W ENGL MI WAYNE  17-WD DETROIT  1920
 
 
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Poll on Thursday 16 March 06 20:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Genealiza

No reason for my Harry to be in Yeovil, copy of the marriage certificate would be great.  Thanks a lot
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Poll on Thursday 16 March 06 20:39 GMT (UK)
hi Karen

Could you do me another favour and check out the Harry Bell that was aged 45 in 1920.  He is about the right age and Wayne is more likely as thats where Ralph was.

Thanks alot
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Genealiza on Thursday 16 March 06 22:12 GMT (UK)
Here is an abreviated transcription--1920
1920  Michigan    Wayne   Detroit City

Bell, Harry, 46, immig 1899  Na   1897   Eng Eng Eng    butch   slaughterhouse
        Katherine, 37     1896  Na   1897   Ire   Ire  Ire
        Henry         15                                NY
        Thomas      14                                NY
        George       11                                NY
        Melvin           9                                NY
        Eileen           6                                Michigan
        Walter       1 5/12                           Michigan

1910 living in Queens, NY

1900 can't find
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: KarenM on Sunday 19 March 06 21:23 GMT (UK)
Here's the marriage info for Ralph,

Groom:  Ralph Standing
Age:  29 years
Residence when married:  Toronto
Place of Birth:  England
Bachelor or Widower:  Bachelor
Rank or Profession:  Bricklayer
Name of Parents:  Thomas & Mary Standing

Bride:  Catherine Buchanan
Age:  20 years
Residence when Married:  Egremont
Place of Birth:  Egremont
Spinster or Widow:  Spinster
Names of Parents:  Alex & Janet Buchanan

Names and Residences of Witnessess:
Alex Buchanan, Egremont
Isabella Jane McLaughlin, Egremont

Date & Place of Marriage
Egremont August 1, 1872
Religion of Groom:  Episcoplian
Religion of Bride;  Presbyterian
By License or Banns:  License
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: Poll on Monday 20 March 06 20:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks Karen for the marriage details

regards
Poll
Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: standing1 on Sunday 04 January 15 05:57 GMT (UK)
Hello, just discovered this site relating to Ralph Standing, he is the brother of my great grandfather George Standing born 1864.
Siblings William 1854, Sarah Ann 1856-1945, James 1858, Fred 1860, Ralph 1861, John 1866, Seth 1866, Elizabeth 1867, Mary 1870.
Not sure if you are still researching as this may have been an old addition to site. If we can help each  other anymore my email is (*) I live in Australian, but was born in Doncaster England  :) Kind Regards Trish



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Title: Re: Detroit Michigan
Post by: standing1 on Sunday 04 January 15 06:07 GMT (UK)
Hi just remembered the Bell connection is Mary Bell born 1830 died 1909 wife of Thomas standing, but by now you probably know that
Kind Regards Trish :)