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I am looking for info on Sampson Lawton (b 1799) and his wife, Amy (b 1805). They were living in 35 Canal Street, Ancoats in 1845 and at 42 Wharf Street, Ancoats in 1855.
If any kind soul can search their records for me, I would really like to know the names of the rest of the household at this time.
Thanks in anticipation.
Des
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Hello Des
If memory serves me correctly you have this?
1841
CAROLINE STREET, MANCHESTER, LANCS
SAMPSON LAWTON 40 BRICKLAYER Y
AMY " 35 Y
SARAH " 9 Y
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WILLIAM DANSON 20 COTTON CARDER Y
ISABELLA " 20 " REELER Y
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Bryant
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Hi,
yes I have this and the return for 1841 - pushing back (at least I'm trying to) a bit further on this particular branch. I have, partially, managed to tie Sampson in with his siblings and their offspring.
I am still stuck with the next generation back - William Lawton & Mary. I suspect that the Mary is a Mary Atherton but have been unable to confirm this. As I am based in Scotland, I have not been able to get into Manchester to do some research.
Thanks for the effort :)
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Hi Des
1851 census, 34 Wharf Street, Ancoats
HO 107/2226 folio 107 pg 31
Sampson Lawton; head; mar; 52; bricklayer; Lancs, Manchester
Emma do; wife; mar; 48; Manchester
Sampson do; son; 9; scholar; Manchester
Richard do; son; 5; scholar; Manchester
Thomas Morgan; son-in-law; mar; 22; mechanic; Chester, Northwich
Sarah do; dau; mar; 20; mechanic's wife; Manchester
Good luck with the Lawtons!
Regards
SandraC
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Hi Des
I think we may have a connection - I have been following my grans family line (Lawton)
With the exception of missing 1851 census info I am a high percentage sure of a connection to William and Mary Atherton.
This is via
Thomas Lawton born abt 1802 (parents as above).
He married Ann Hamnett in 1829.
They had a child called Thomas born abt 1832, this is the line I have followed upto my gran born 1909.
As this lot have only just fell into place, I will hold off the jump for joy until I can confirm a few things.
If you have any knowledge of a son called Thomas please let me know.
Regards
Ken
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Hello Ken,
The only info I have for Thomas & Ann is that thay had at least three children: -
Mary Lawton - Christening: 20 OCT 1829 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire
GEORGE LAWTON - Christening: 29 JUN 1834 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire
GEORGE LAWTON - Christening: 16 DEC 1835 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire
Did you manage to find the family on the 1841 or 1851 census? I would be interested in his occupation as the males of the family appear to have been mainly employed as bricklayers.
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Hi Des
What I have is
Thomas Lawton - Christening 8th Jan 1832 Manchester Cathedral
1841 it is said he was 10
1851 Missing
1861 aged 29 Labourer (Bk Balloon st, Manchester) this is near the Cathedral)
1871 aged 39 Metal Planer (Cross st, Salford)
1881 aged 49 Metal planer (Deal st, Salford)
He died in 1886 in Salford aged 54
The only way I can confirm the connection to William & Ann is to order up the marriage cert for Thomas in 1854 - this should give me his fathers name, which I hope would be Thomas.
Full 1841 census is
Ann 40 (occupation ?)
Thomas 10
Mary 12
William 15
George 5
Ann Hamnett 70
Thomas Senior is missing, must assume he died
Send me a PM if you need the original scan of the 1841 census.
Regards
Ken
ps
WoW 1000 postings ;D
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Hi Des
Have you a list of children by William & Mary?
Regards
Ken
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Hi Des
Found locations they all lived at in 1841/51
Thomas (10) and Ann mother lived in Prussia st, Ancoats
As I cannot upload images in this posting again PM and I will forward a scan of an 1891 map of Ancoats.
Regards
Ken
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Hi Ken,
Here's a list of what I have for William & Mary. All of these are attributed to "William & Mary" and Christened in the Catherdal (Manchester), although the dates for some appear to overlap. These are all Christening dates.
Ann Lawton - 20 Feb 1791
Mary Lawton - 28 Sep 1792
Charles Lawton - 17 Mar 1793 (1841 Census - Bricklayer. Living in Kirby Street, Ancoats, Manchester. On this census, there is a June Lawton (aged 35) living with the family - she is possibly a sister or a sister-in-law. I will not add her to the tree until I can verify her position.
1851 Census - Master Bricklayer. Living at 35 Dixon Street, St Jude's, Ancoats, Manchester.
1861 Census - Living in Dearden Street, Hulme, Manchester, England. Employed as a Bricklayer)
John Lawton - 14 Apr 1793
James Lawton - 27 Sep 1795 (James married Eliza and two of their children had the middle name of "Brough" - this ties in with Sampson's child, Eliza, having the middle name of "Browf" - must have had strong accents ;) )
Mary Lawton - 5 Jun 1796
William Lawton - 28 Jan 1798 (William married Hannah Quinn and there are more ties with this family and the Lawtons showing up on the 1841 census. 1841 Census - Bricklayer. Living in Spinner Street, Ancoats, Manchester. Also on this page are James & Eliza with their family.)
Sampson Lawton - 16 Jun 1799 (Sampson was a bricklayer - he went on to buy a shop in Wharf Street)
Sarah Lawton - 5 Jul 1801
Thomas Lawton - 6 Jun 1802 (You have more details than me on Thomas)
John Lawton - 14 Oct 1804 (1841 census has a John Lawton & family living in Manchester. I am pretty sure that he is connected to Sampson and is probably his brother. Indicators for this are that he too is a bricklayer and that he has a son named Sampson. DOB, on the census, is given as abt 1811 (can be as much as 5 years out). The DOB of their son, William, would mean that John was only 15 when his son was born. I am therefore adding this family group to the tree until I can prove otherwise.
I cannot find any children of John & Margaret prior to Sampson. There was a marriage of John Lawton to Margaret Quin in the Cathedral, Manchester on 23 APR 1835. This also ties in with the other Lawton/Quinn relationships.)
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Hi Ken,
Can you send me the census details (for Thomas's family as I cannot find them on either the 1841 or 1851 census.
Cheers
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Hi Des
Let me have you emaill addy via PM and I will forward the sheet to you.
Interesting the note on the Quinn family - My mother in law's sister married a Quinn from the Newton Heath area mid 1900's this is another line I have not started to look at yet.
Another interesting thing I have just picked up on (1871 census) is your Sampson had a Thomas Stott (manchester) boarding with them - On my side Thomas remarried a Eliza Scott (liverpool) and had her kids with her, 1 was called Harry Scott and on the 1881 Census Harry has been spelt Harry Stott - might just be another broad accent misspelling.
I might when time permits today to look for a Thomas & Eliza Stott/Scott together in liverpool ----- ya never know.
Will order certs up today - all because I am missing the 1851 damaged census, this is the only stumbling block for a 100% connection.
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The 1871 census cannot refer to my Sampson Lawton (b.1799) because he died in 1864.
I am interested in all Sampson Lawtons though as I am sure that they share a common root. Where was this one living in 1871 - I have not found him on Ancestry.com yet.
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:P Yep u r right I goofed :P
I put the info wrong into my database - that statement refers to
William Lawton 1826 (not Sampson)
Son of Thomas and Ann Hamnett